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Guns And Ammo Production Maxed Out: “This Is A Society Preparing For War”
SHTF Plan ^ | 2-14-2013 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 02/14/2013 12:22:14 PM PST by blam

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To: grobdriver
Back off. Stop encroaching on our personal liberties. Limit yourself to your Constitutionally granted powers and nothing more.
Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, don't appear to be listening - and those just the states I've read about today... the jury is still out on what the Fed will try!

Missouri? Really?

Missouri Democrats Introduce Legislation to Confiscate Firearms – Gives Gun Owners 90 Days to Turn in Weapons

HOUSE BILL NO. 545 97TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY

51 posted on 02/14/2013 2:27:22 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Noumenon

Ping


52 posted on 02/14/2013 2:32:10 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Good luck!


53 posted on 02/14/2013 2:33:20 PM PST by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: blam

A few hundred IRA members with armalites tied down the English army for decades.


54 posted on 02/14/2013 2:40:29 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
The Department Of Homeland Security lives in their mother’s basement.

ROTFL!!

Good one! (Probably true, but still made me laugh)
55 posted on 02/14/2013 2:49:44 PM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: Sender

And most ranges won’t let you pick up your brass either.

One of the reasons I chose a Beretta 92 9mm was that I thought if ammo ever became in short supply, 9mm would be one of the last calibers to become short in supply and somewhat affordable.

15 years later, this has come to fruition and while the cost of 9mm ammunition has at least doubled, it can still be found. Most of the high prices are dealers and sellers gouging gun owners. Shame on them.

I use the cheap stuff at the range (Wolf, S&B) and have about 250-300 rounds of it on hand.

I also have 100 Rounds of Hyra-Shok ammunition and another 100 Rounds of Cor-Bon ammunition which is saved for when the Defecation hits the Oscillation and was purchased several months before Obama was re-elected at normal pricing.

At this point, I’m going to hold off on buying more as the prices are way too high.

I have a variety of rounds from birdshot to buckshot for my Mossy 500, probably about 75 total.

If anything, I will stock up on some 12 Gauge when the next Gun Show rolls into town.

A good every day carry knife should be on everyone’s list as well.

I have a good quality but inexpensive and Kalifornia legal Pazoda CRKT folding knife with the combination straight/ serrated edge. It has a pocket clip and I always carry it when I go out since I can’t carry a firearm in Kalifornia.

After breaking it in and with the help of some WD-40, I can actually open it with a flick of the wrist and without using the thumb-hole assist.

I’ve never been a knife guy, but I’ve become fond of this little knife and found out the hard way that it has the potential to do some serious damage.


56 posted on 02/14/2013 2:59:22 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Lean Forward" = "Bend Over")
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To: KoRn; All
"You'll be able to hear me at 500 yards."

"If you can hear it, the shooter missed.... (would still make me put my head down though lol)"


Miss? Are you kidding?


57 posted on 02/14/2013 3:05:37 PM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: blam

There is a simpler explanation for all of the gun/ammo sales than the dramatic “going to war” scenario.

First, this is the economy being stimulated in one of the ways easily available at the moment. Food, energy, entertainment, guns, etc., all fall under the heading of “consumer spending”, the single biggest component of the US economy. This component needs to keep moving, and it is, through fear.

Secondly, the government is not concerned about “going to war” with this population, at least half of which are willing livestock already. Between large-scale data mining of social media websites, comments sections of news articles, public forums, medical records, and other readily available financial data, the government has all the information they need to win a “war” without ever firing a shot. They know names, IP/MAC and real addresses, employers, bank accounts, friends and associates, etc., etc., and can shut down anyone they want with nothing but paperwork. 99% of gun owners will turn in their guns the day their ATM card stops working. The other 1% will get mopped up Dorner-style.

We are “free” only so far as we delude ourselves.


58 posted on 02/14/2013 3:18:14 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

“99% of gun owners will turn in their guns the day their ATM card stops working.”

I disagree and think that most gun owners would be more determined to keep their guns once their ATM card stops working.

If that day comes, guns will be worth more than their weight in gold.


59 posted on 02/14/2013 3:23:57 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Lean Forward" = "Bend Over")
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To: blam
"Armalite: Maxed out."

I wish in the short term Armalite would focus their employees on loading trucks so they can move the hell out of Illinois.

60 posted on 02/14/2013 3:28:41 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Obadiah

Cabelas already took most of their reloading stuff off their online catalog. They don’t even list .223 as a loaded ammo caliber any more. Midsouth, Widners, and Brownells are all months backlogged. Powder valley, ammo man, etc... All of ‘em...

Anything that does up is gone in seconds. What you do find for sale costs orders of magnitude what it used to.

But i guess you are right, because some spokeshole for one company said things are peachy... It’s all just hysteria to be debunked.


61 posted on 02/14/2013 3:35:12 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: KoRn

The names “Trey Mullins” and “Hildebrandt”, “Kellogg”, “Ruiz” and “Figueroa” mean anything to you?


62 posted on 02/14/2013 3:40:47 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Obadiah

Got a reference to the “debunkment”?


63 posted on 02/14/2013 3:43:39 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: blam

...and there was an AP report yesterday that gun sales were slumping because the manufacturers had over-produced models. Been to a gun store lately? ...gun sales may be slumping but because there are none available at your local store because they are sold out! Why does no one question a report like AP put out yesterday?


64 posted on 02/14/2013 3:50:50 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: spodefly
The other 1% will get mopped up Dorner-style.

Do you have any idea how many firearms owners are represented by "1%"?

65 posted on 02/14/2013 4:02:27 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Typical media - lying by omission.

Gun sales and Ammunition sales have slumped due to shortages and high prices.

The next “Crossroads of the West” (CROW) Gun Show is 2 Months away - I’m definitely going to buy some 12 Gauge shells but I also want to gauge the crowd and see how many novices are attending and the pricing and availability of firearms and ammunition.


66 posted on 02/14/2013 4:11:41 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Lean Forward" = "Bend Over")
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To: ArrogantBustard

Did you hear they were selling T shirts in LA that said:

Non Chris Dorner
Please Do Non Shoot

ROFLMAO


67 posted on 02/14/2013 4:12:03 PM PST by darth
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To: ArrogantBustard

Did you hear they were selling T shirts in LA that said:

NOT Chris Dorner
Please Do Not Shoot

ROFLMAO

Weird typos in previous.


68 posted on 02/14/2013 4:13:14 PM PST by darth
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To: 21twelve

In MN and WI there are Mill’s Fleet Farm Stores that seem to have ammo. I bought 800 rounds of 9mm, 400 rounds of .223 and 200 rounds of 38’s a couple of weeks ago. One store had a limit of 5 boxes per trip, so I made two trips. I travel for business and now have a policy of stopping at every Mill’s store I pass by and acquire some peace of mind. The gun shops I stopped at were basically out of ammo so try the lessor known stores like Mill’s.


69 posted on 02/14/2013 4:42:57 PM PST by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: BobinIL
The media is our biggest enemy. It's the primary reason our nation has become more and more liberal. It's affected Conservatives as well. It's been corrupting Americans for decades now. We have never defeated it. The sad truth is we haven't even been able to stop it, and we aren't going to change that as long as it exist.

The propaganda machine is the enemy that we must be ready to defend ourselves against. They are intentionally pushing us toward violence. They want good peaceful Americans to shamefully give up their Constitutional rights, or be murdered. They aren't ignorant either. They know the meaning of the Second Amendment. They aren't doing it to reduce violence either. They are the exact tyrants our founders envisioned us needing the right to defend against. Those we see on TV pushing us into fourth generation warfare, are hypothetically going to regret threatening our lives. We have a right to defend ourselves.

We need Conservative states organizing militia forces. The states need to be pressed on this issue. States who pass laws to arrest federal agents attempting to enforce certain laws need to have the teeth to back it up. While we press the states on this I think simple neighborhood militias should be formed. We should also work with those counties with real Constitutional Sheriffs on organizing a militia they can call upon. Discussions between Sheriffs and residents should happen in these counties at least. There needs to be a significant increase in defensive forces to show these state laws, and statements from Sheriffs across the nation are more than unenforceable symbolic protest.

www.OathKeepers.org

70 posted on 02/14/2013 4:45:51 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

I think once the economy and crimes gets worse and we reach a point were packs of hoodlums start roaming the streets, neighborhoods will start “watchdog groups” that are armed and they will use cell phones, twitter, etc... to quickly alert members of impending trouble so they can lock and load and meet any trouble head-on as the police will be of little or no help as they will be overwhelmed.

At some point and time within the next few years I think we will start to see neighborhoods band together and eventually those neighborhoods will join each other, much like street gangs but with a different purpose.

Like I said in a previous post, when the SHTF, guns (and ammunition) will be worth their weight in gold.

The Government is buying up Millions of rounds of ammunition, probably to create shortages for the public so we are driven to be dependent on the Government for everything.

I may have to buy more 9mm ammo in addition to 12 Gauge.


71 posted on 02/14/2013 5:22:56 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Lean Forward" = "Bend Over")
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To: blam

WAR EAGLE!


72 posted on 02/14/2013 6:00:10 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: travlnmn41

Bless you and Thank You, sir!!


73 posted on 02/14/2013 6:03:23 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: BobinIL
The law enforcement raids you mentioned were embarrassing failures that showed how much disarray an individual, or small group, can cause on a much larger law enforcement group. A few small well armed Patriots could bring war to those Oath Breakers in a way they couldn't imagine. They aren't trained to face that. I don't think they have the principled will to fight for a leftist cause either.

A small principled Patriot movement can be victorious. Patriots have to fight smart. They can't attack infrastructure that would alienate supporters. They can't target family of enemies, or let emotions make them act stupidly. It isn't hard for most to understand. If it comes to this it will be a war to free our nation from tyranny. It will be fought for the people, not against them. If they don't act against us, they should be spared from it as much as possible. Resentment caused from some people's inaction can't be used as an excuse for anything either, because it won't help anything. It's no different than being brutal because you were a victim of brutality. It still hurts the cause.

A hypothetical insurrection that makes the media and political leadership of the aggressors(those who have the chance), go into hiding out of fear of every citizen they see is what will happen. I think a fourth-generation war hasn't even been thought of by these instigators. They see standoffs like those in the past. I don't think they believe it could possibly touch them.

The Oath Keepers organization is something I think people should take a look at. It's made up of former/active duty military and law enforcement. Oath Keepers brochures are available to be mailed, handed out, or placed wherever you think could be effective. Outreach can make a vital difference. Many active duty patriots don't join, but are glad to see a movement of like-minded Patriots in similar positions as themselves. A small donation can also help more than some may believe IMO.

www.OathKeepers.org

74 posted on 02/14/2013 6:20:23 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: spodefly
99% of gun owners will turn in their guns the day their ATM card stops working.

The reaction of many would be to come back later and shoot the ATM from just out of camera range.

They know names, IP/MAC and real addresses

I have been away from network management for a long time (14 years). Is there a mechanism whereby the MAC address is known outside the local network (unless the router has been compromised or some program is sending out the MAC)? I'm wondering, if I were to buy a laptop wireless nic off eBay and cruise around different wifi nets in town, is there a straightforward method to determine it is "me" each time? (unless I log in somewhere, etc)

75 posted on 02/14/2013 6:57:30 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
www.OathKeepers.org

Just joined and donated. Thanks.
76 posted on 02/14/2013 10:23:01 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: darth

Was thinking about having some printed up for dogs.


77 posted on 02/15/2013 1:11:14 PM PST by LadyBuck (Yippie-Ki-Yay)
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To: GeronL
If those LA cops are any indication they might need about 40 shots for every patriot.

Or more, it seems like they went to the Imperial Stormtrooper Academy of Marksmanship. B-) BTW, to bring in another science fiction cliche force, Red Shirted Ensigns could do a better job. B-P
78 posted on 02/22/2013 9:32:15 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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