Skip to comments.Guns And Ammo Production Maxed Out: “This Is A Society Preparing For War”
Posted on 02/14/2013 12:22:14 PM PST by blam
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A few hundred IRA members with armalites tied down the English army for decades.
And most ranges won’t let you pick up your brass either.
One of the reasons I chose a Beretta 92 9mm was that I thought if ammo ever became in short supply, 9mm would be one of the last calibers to become short in supply and somewhat affordable.
15 years later, this has come to fruition and while the cost of 9mm ammunition has at least doubled, it can still be found. Most of the high prices are dealers and sellers gouging gun owners. Shame on them.
I use the cheap stuff at the range (Wolf, S&B) and have about 250-300 rounds of it on hand.
I also have 100 Rounds of Hyra-Shok ammunition and another 100 Rounds of Cor-Bon ammunition which is saved for when the Defecation hits the Oscillation and was purchased several months before Obama was re-elected at normal pricing.
At this point, I’m going to hold off on buying more as the prices are way too high.
I have a variety of rounds from birdshot to buckshot for my Mossy 500, probably about 75 total.
If anything, I will stock up on some 12 Gauge when the next Gun Show rolls into town.
A good every day carry knife should be on everyone’s list as well.
I have a good quality but inexpensive and Kalifornia legal Pazoda CRKT folding knife with the combination straight/ serrated edge. It has a pocket clip and I always carry it when I go out since I can’t carry a firearm in Kalifornia.
After breaking it in and with the help of some WD-40, I can actually open it with a flick of the wrist and without using the thumb-hole assist.
I’ve never been a knife guy, but I’ve become fond of this little knife and found out the hard way that it has the potential to do some serious damage.
There is a simpler explanation for all of the gun/ammo sales than the dramatic “going to war” scenario.
First, this is the economy being stimulated in one of the ways easily available at the moment. Food, energy, entertainment, guns, etc., all fall under the heading of “consumer spending”, the single biggest component of the US economy. This component needs to keep moving, and it is, through fear.
Secondly, the government is not concerned about “going to war” with this population, at least half of which are willing livestock already. Between large-scale data mining of social media websites, comments sections of news articles, public forums, medical records, and other readily available financial data, the government has all the information they need to win a “war” without ever firing a shot. They know names, IP/MAC and real addresses, employers, bank accounts, friends and associates, etc., etc., and can shut down anyone they want with nothing but paperwork. 99% of gun owners will turn in their guns the day their ATM card stops working. The other 1% will get mopped up Dorner-style.
We are “free” only so far as we delude ourselves.
“99% of gun owners will turn in their guns the day their ATM card stops working.”
I disagree and think that most gun owners would be more determined to keep their guns once their ATM card stops working.
If that day comes, guns will be worth more than their weight in gold.
I wish in the short term Armalite would focus their employees on loading trucks so they can move the hell out of Illinois.
Cabelas already took most of their reloading stuff off their online catalog. They don’t even list .223 as a loaded ammo caliber any more. Midsouth, Widners, and Brownells are all months backlogged. Powder valley, ammo man, etc... All of ‘em...
Anything that does up is gone in seconds. What you do find for sale costs orders of magnitude what it used to.
But i guess you are right, because some spokeshole for one company said things are peachy... It’s all just hysteria to be debunked.
The names “Trey Mullins” and “Hildebrandt”, “Kellogg”, “Ruiz” and “Figueroa” mean anything to you?
Got a reference to the “debunkment”?
...and there was an AP report yesterday that gun sales were slumping because the manufacturers had over-produced models. Been to a gun store lately? ...gun sales may be slumping but because there are none available at your local store because they are sold out! Why does no one question a report like AP put out yesterday?
Do you have any idea how many firearms owners are represented by "1%"?
Typical media - lying by omission.
Gun sales and Ammunition sales have slumped due to shortages and high prices.
The next “Crossroads of the West” (CROW) Gun Show is 2 Months away - I’m definitely going to buy some 12 Gauge shells but I also want to gauge the crowd and see how many novices are attending and the pricing and availability of firearms and ammunition.
Did you hear they were selling T shirts in LA that said:
Non Chris Dorner
Please Do Non Shoot
Did you hear they were selling T shirts in LA that said:
NOT Chris Dorner
Please Do Not Shoot
Weird typos in previous.
In MN and WI there are Mill’s Fleet Farm Stores that seem to have ammo. I bought 800 rounds of 9mm, 400 rounds of .223 and 200 rounds of 38’s a couple of weeks ago. One store had a limit of 5 boxes per trip, so I made two trips. I travel for business and now have a policy of stopping at every Mill’s store I pass by and acquire some peace of mind. The gun shops I stopped at were basically out of ammo so try the lessor known stores like Mill’s.
The propaganda machine is the enemy that we must be ready to defend ourselves against. They are intentionally pushing us toward violence. They want good peaceful Americans to shamefully give up their Constitutional rights, or be murdered. They aren't ignorant either. They know the meaning of the Second Amendment. They aren't doing it to reduce violence either. They are the exact tyrants our founders envisioned us needing the right to defend against. Those we see on TV pushing us into fourth generation warfare, are hypothetically going to regret threatening our lives. We have a right to defend ourselves.
We need Conservative states organizing militia forces. The states need to be pressed on this issue. States who pass laws to arrest federal agents attempting to enforce certain laws need to have the teeth to back it up. While we press the states on this I think simple neighborhood militias should be formed. We should also work with those counties with real Constitutional Sheriffs on organizing a militia they can call upon. Discussions between Sheriffs and residents should happen in these counties at least. There needs to be a significant increase in defensive forces to show these state laws, and statements from Sheriffs across the nation are more than unenforceable symbolic protest.
I think once the economy and crimes gets worse and we reach a point were packs of hoodlums start roaming the streets, neighborhoods will start “watchdog groups” that are armed and they will use cell phones, twitter, etc... to quickly alert members of impending trouble so they can lock and load and meet any trouble head-on as the police will be of little or no help as they will be overwhelmed.
At some point and time within the next few years I think we will start to see neighborhoods band together and eventually those neighborhoods will join each other, much like street gangs but with a different purpose.
Like I said in a previous post, when the SHTF, guns (and ammunition) will be worth their weight in gold.
The Government is buying up Millions of rounds of ammunition, probably to create shortages for the public so we are driven to be dependent on the Government for everything.
I may have to buy more 9mm ammo in addition to 12 Gauge.
Bless you and Thank You, sir!!
A small principled Patriot movement can be victorious. Patriots have to fight smart. They can't attack infrastructure that would alienate supporters. They can't target family of enemies, or let emotions make them act stupidly. It isn't hard for most to understand. If it comes to this it will be a war to free our nation from tyranny. It will be fought for the people, not against them. If they don't act against us, they should be spared from it as much as possible. Resentment caused from some people's inaction can't be used as an excuse for anything either, because it won't help anything. It's no different than being brutal because you were a victim of brutality. It still hurts the cause.
A hypothetical insurrection that makes the media and political leadership of the aggressors(those who have the chance), go into hiding out of fear of every citizen they see is what will happen. I think a fourth-generation war hasn't even been thought of by these instigators. They see standoffs like those in the past. I don't think they believe it could possibly touch them.
The Oath Keepers organization is something I think people should take a look at. It's made up of former/active duty military and law enforcement. Oath Keepers brochures are available to be mailed, handed out, or placed wherever you think could be effective. Outreach can make a vital difference. Many active duty patriots don't join, but are glad to see a movement of like-minded Patriots in similar positions as themselves. A small donation can also help more than some may believe IMO.
The reaction of many would be to come back later and shoot the ATM from just out of camera range.
They know names, IP/MAC and real addresses
I have been away from network management for a long time (14 years). Is there a mechanism whereby the MAC address is known outside the local network (unless the router has been compromised or some program is sending out the MAC)? I'm wondering, if I were to buy a laptop wireless nic off eBay and cruise around different wifi nets in town, is there a straightforward method to determine it is "me" each time? (unless I log in somewhere, etc)
Was thinking about having some printed up for dogs.