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The Chris Dorner Hero-Worship, on Both Sides of the Aisle
The Hayride ^ | Feb. 13, 2013 | MacAoidh

Posted on 02/14/2013 7:59:29 PM PST by Pining_4_TX

The most disheartening event in the country this week wasn’t the State of the Union address, though that was certainly ugly enough.

And it wasn’t the finale of the Chris Dorner rampage, which was certainly horrific enough in its waste of human life.

From the standpoint of the picture it paints for us of America circa 2013, it’s the reaction to Dorner.

The reaction of the Left to Dorner is hideous enough. It’s personified by the vapid, disgusting and degenerate Marc Lamont Hill, who finds deep meaning – and excitement – in Dorner’s senseless mayhem and unhinged online ramblings…

If you look for more Dorner fanboys on the Left, you’ll find them. We’ll not belabor that; there isn’t much new there. As Andrew Klavan noted earlier this week, leftism is a philosophy of violence and it has been ever since Rousseau belched it forth from his spleen.

What’s worse, what’s worst, is that Dorner has his fanboys on the Right.

We now see people calling themselves members of the Tea Party who echo some of the same sentiments the Marc Lamont Hills of the world are bleating.

These sound a bit more sophisticated than the mind-numbingly stupid defense of Dorner as an anti-establishment superhero who satisfies an onanistic, Bill Ayers-esque fantasy about killing cops. But they’re just as ugly.

The “Tea Party” – and we use this description very guardedly – defenses of Los Angeles’ newest cop-killer are that by tracking him down, cornering him and ultimately (we think) bringing about his fiery demise at Big Bear Lake, law enforcement violated Dorner’s 4th Amendment and 6th Amendment rights.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; christopherdorner; constitution; dorner; fff; police; rights; teaparty
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1 posted on 02/14/2013 7:59:45 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

What people on the “right” has made him a hero? name them


2 posted on 02/14/2013 8:05:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Scroll through some threads here. While they aren’t overt, they sure do sympathize with his so called war on the LAPD.


3 posted on 02/14/2013 8:08:15 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

No. They didn’t make Dorner a hero, just because they question the police tactics of shooting vehicles and crap


4 posted on 02/14/2013 8:10:36 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Excellent article...The cold blooded killer scumbag Dorner got exactly what he wanted and deserved. It’s a real shame he killed four people and wounded four people before he was taken out because he refused his due process under the law.


5 posted on 02/14/2013 8:13:53 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
The only thing of value he provided was a demonstration of how one guy could take down the LAPD. They ended up guarding a bunch of officials and were literally unable to pursue him.

It was a situation that was remarkably MEXICAN in it's aroma!

6 posted on 02/14/2013 8:17:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Pining_4_TX

I haven’t seen anyglorification of dorner anywhere but on the left. What evidence is offered to show that TEA Party members have shown either sympathy or empathy for dorner? I certainly haven’t seen any from Freepers. LAPD is as notorious and infamous as Chicago cops, but I have seen no one here call for their murders.
If wanting our police forces to be non-corrupt and reasonably intelligent when it comes to upholding the law makes us ‘sympathetic’ to an animal like dorner, I would sure like to see the proof rather than read about it from someone who offers little justification for this accusation.


7 posted on 02/14/2013 8:23:09 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Pining_4_TX; GeronL; jazusamo; mnehring

Reactions are contextual.

Dorner didn’t murder everyone he met. Seems he had an agenda.

The LAPD it seems also had an agenda. Shoot everyone and burn the rest.


8 posted on 02/14/2013 8:23:21 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: muawiyah

I agree...His “Rambo” image was blown out of proportion and it seems at least some in the LAPD were scared, thankfully there weren’t more killed and wounded.


9 posted on 02/14/2013 8:23:26 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Alicia Keys has already recorded a song in tribute the Dorner, it’s called, “This Man is On Fire.”


10 posted on 02/14/2013 8:24:09 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: jazusamo

Exactly .


11 posted on 02/14/2013 8:24:18 PM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Pining_4_TX.


12 posted on 02/14/2013 8:24:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

They could have dropped an a-bomb on his ass for all I care. He’s dead, he can’t kill anybody else.

People saying “wait him out” in that situation are the same people who think the cops should just shoot the gun out of the bad guy’s hand, instead of killing him.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 8:25:01 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Darksheare; toldyou; Karliner

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14 posted on 02/14/2013 8:25:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: dfwgator; cripplecreek

““This Man is On Fire.””

“Chris P Dorner”

(passing it along CC)


15 posted on 02/14/2013 8:26:42 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Pining_4_TX

Bill O’Reilly had Marc Lamont Hill on tonight and did not treat him with the deference he usually shows him. (BOR usually acts as if “Dr. Hill” is a great scholar and towering intellect.) He acted pretty ticked off at him for his comments about Dorner.


16 posted on 02/14/2013 8:27:29 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: jazusamo
All they had to see was his claim that he had a 50 caliber rifle. you can take out airplanes, cars, trucks ~ building walls ~

It was pretty obvious he was a mad man ~ LAPD is incapable of dealing with such people.

17 posted on 02/14/2013 8:29:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Pining_4_TX

Dorner’s dead, got to find new enemies to hate, and if they’re on this side, so much the better, they’re closer!


18 posted on 02/14/2013 8:32:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: GeronL
No. They didn’t make Dorner a hero, just because they question the police tactics of shooting vehicles and crap

Yep ... and burning people alive. I question the intelligence of someone who cannot tell the difference between criticism of police tactics and hate/love for a crazy cop killer.

19 posted on 02/14/2013 8:34:06 PM PST by plain talk
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To: mnehring
I don't pretend to know what his war with the LAPD was about, so I can't speak to that. We only 'know' what was reported and attributed by the media. I suppose we could suddenly trust them to get things 100% correct.

If, however, those accounts are correct, the LAPD's war on Dorner is a red flag for everyone.

They, as evidenced by the fusilade unleashed against two women delivering papers, had decided they were judge, jury, and executioner, and operated in contemptuous violation of the Constitution. (The newspaper ladies weren't even shooting at them).

I'm a fan of the Constitution, not Dorner, and not the LAPD, either.

However, if there was widespread corruption in the department, I'd expect a mob-style hit order to 'just kill the m-f-er', because no one involved would want to take a chance that the lid would be peeled back during testimony in court.

As for the cabin, severely damage a predominantly wood structure and fire pyrotechnic tear gas rounds into the pile, and you can reasonably expect it will catch fire.

"Not knowing" it would cause a fire was the excuse used at Waco, too, after poking flue holes in the building and pumping the it full of CS powder carried in methylene chloride (a flammable liquid used in carburetor cleaner).

When those sworn to uphold the law are so willing to operate in contempt of it, no matter who they are, we should all be concerned.

20 posted on 02/14/2013 8:37:05 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: plain talk

bump!!

some left fringers praised Dorner

some rightists don’t like the police

not the same thing


21 posted on 02/14/2013 8:42:06 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mnehring

Whether or not Dorner had a legitimate beef against the LAPD regarding his firing WE will never know. If he did have a legitimate beef or not, his approach to dealing with HIS problem was abborant and disgusting. On the other hand, the over-reaction by law enforcement leading to members of law enforcement firing on two separate vehicles which had nothing to do with Dorner, severely injuring at least one elderly woman, is also abborant and disgusting.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 8:42:14 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
We now see people calling themselves members of the Tea Party...

Standard fascist psyops.

23 posted on 02/14/2013 8:52:00 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Believing that someone shouldn’t be burned to death isn’t exactly hero worship.


24 posted on 02/14/2013 8:52:38 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Smokin' Joe
When those sworn to uphold the law are so willing to operate in contempt of it, no matter who they are, we should all be concerned.

BUMP!

Familiarity breeds contempt.

25 posted on 02/14/2013 8:53:44 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: smokingfrog

Dormer biggest mistake was thinking his fellow LAPD officers were good honest men, and that they would be upset about homeless people being abused.
His next biggest mistake was killing these same corrupt police officers and thinking he could get away with it.
His last mistake was poor planning. If he wanted to make a point about the injustice he received he could have accomplished it without killing innocent people. If he was so smart he would be in Mexico instead of murdered by the same corrupt police he was trying to shine a light on. what a sick bass turd.


26 posted on 02/14/2013 9:51:00 PM PST by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: GeronL; MestaMachine

All you have to do is look at some of the comments made by Freepers. They seem to think the cops should have walked up to the door and read Dorner his rights. There was no doubt of this man’s guilt, nor of his ability to take people out, so why should any more police risk their lives to try and take the thug alive? Yet, even on FR, some are suggesting the cops kill and burn first and ask questions later.


27 posted on 02/14/2013 9:58:19 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: dfwgator
Alicia Keys has already recorded a song in tribute the Dorner, it’s called, “This Man is On Fire.”

ha!

28 posted on 02/14/2013 9:59:11 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Pining_4_TX

there was no doubt of his guilt

a court determined that? Because the Constitution doesn’t go out the window because a perp admits what he did.

Bill Ayers admitted what he did. “Guilty as sin, free as a bird”, should he have been locked up despite getting off in court?


29 posted on 02/14/2013 10:02:14 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

“Because the Constitution doesn’t go out the window because a perp admits what he did.”

Nor are cops obligated to walk into a hail of bullets when some turd won’t give up without a fight.


30 posted on 02/14/2013 10:06:31 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX
There was no doubt of this man’s guilt, nor of his ability to take people out, so why should any more police risk their lives to try and take the thug alive?

If that is true, then the police ought to stand up and say so. Instead, they are denying they intended to start a fire.

Is it too much to expect our law enforcement agencies to be truthful?

31 posted on 02/14/2013 11:20:33 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Pining_4_TX

In this case shooting up three innocent people out of sheer and utter fear and incompetence, and lack of any concern about non-police citizens, and then the predictable burning of the house.

There is nothing wrong with the populace pointing out the failings of law enforcement.


32 posted on 02/14/2013 11:27:49 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: dfwgator
The only time you see blacks coming together is when it has to do with the “white man done me wrong.” Thursday, O’Reilly on Fox really lit into Professor Lamont Hill and smacked him down for his remarks. Hill looked like he knew he stepped in it...he tap dances and has fast lips, but he couldn't get past O’Reilly, and O’Reilly made him look bad.
33 posted on 02/14/2013 11:29:53 PM PST by itssme
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To: Smokin' Joe
(The newspaper ladies weren't even shooting at them).

Aside from the freaky nature of them just shooting at totally unrelated people's like women and a skinny white guy, there didn't seem to be one wit of concern that seeing two figures in a vehicle indicated an innocent hostage, even if it was the 270 pound giant.

34 posted on 02/14/2013 11:35:21 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: plain talk
burning people alive

Another ASSumption based on what?

35 posted on 02/14/2013 11:36:03 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: SoldierDad
the over-reaction by law enforcement leading to members of law enforcement firing on two separate vehicles

By SOME law enforcement which is a separate issue that should be dealt with judicially.

36 posted on 02/14/2013 11:41:16 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: WilliamRobert
His next biggest mistake was killing these same corrupt police officers and thinking he could get away with it.

Were the young female basketball coach, her fiance and the father of two, Riverside police officer corrupt police officers?

37 posted on 02/14/2013 11:44:11 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: GeronL
a court determined that?

The same court that found Dorner was burned to death, wasn't given due process and his civil rights were abused. I think there are some Freepers on that panel judges.

38 posted on 02/14/2013 11:49:14 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: ansel12
Aside from the freaky nature of them just shooting at totally unrelated people's like women and a skinny white guy, there didn't seem to be one wit of concern that seeing two figures in a vehicle indicated an innocent hostage, even if it was the 270 pound giant.

LAPD not Riverside PD or San Bernardino Sheriff's Dept. Different entities.

39 posted on 02/14/2013 11:53:32 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Yeah, I think it was Torrance cops who shot up the citizens, I don’t know who burnt the house, it isn’t a story I have been following, I’ve seen this enough times over my lifetime.


40 posted on 02/15/2013 12:13:43 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12
I’ve seen this enough times over my lifetime

Once is too often, just like one child molestation, one rape, one traffic fatality. All are a sad fact of life that we all have to work at to curb. However, an entire profession shouldn't be smeared for the sins of a few. The officers involved in the shootings of the surfer and women should be dealt with judicially and held responsible criminally and financially.

41 posted on 02/15/2013 12:21:52 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

You can have your personal feelings about the quality of police, but I have a lifetime of experience with them and I have my own opinions, go give the feel good lecture to some youngster.


42 posted on 02/15/2013 12:33:05 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12
go give the feel good lecture to some youngster.

Lecture? Are you always so dramatic?

43 posted on 02/15/2013 12:53:49 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

LOL, whatever, just find someone else to tell your opinions to about law enforcement, I’m not interested.


44 posted on 02/15/2013 1:33:46 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12
I’m not interested.

But you had to respond. LOL!

45 posted on 02/15/2013 1:45:26 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: ansel12
Aside from the freaky nature of them just shooting at totally unrelated people's like women and a skinny white guy, there didn't seem to be one wit of concern that seeing two figures in a vehicle indicated an innocent hostage, even if it was the 270 pound giant.

Nor of any concern for the 40 or so bullets that went into innocent people's homes at the end of the street...

Just think of the tragedy had they seen Dorner walking down a sidewalk, or encountered him inside of a Mall...

46 posted on 02/15/2013 3:37:25 AM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: dfwgator

Bhaaaaaa!!


47 posted on 02/15/2013 3:50:36 AM PST by ontap
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To: SoldierDad
"the over-reaction by law enforcement leading to members of law enforcement firing on two separate vehicles which had nothing to do with Dorner, severely injuring at least one elderly woman, is also abborant and disgusting."

Tell me what you would do if you were approaching a vehicle that you thought contained a known cop killer with automatic .50 cal weapons, and you had nothing but a handgun?

48 posted on 02/15/2013 6:00:51 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Verify that it was actually him first. The actions of the police officers in these incidents is inexcusable.


49 posted on 02/15/2013 6:10:45 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Ken H
-- Is it too much to expect our law enforcement agencies to be truthful? --

Yes. The best way to deal with reality is to learn it, and deal with it. Sometimes the police are truthful, sometimes they are not. They are certainly no better than average on that count, and given their position of power in the legal system, I would expect them to be less honest than people outside of the system.

Keep in mind that the system is "self policing," and is loath to admit error.

50 posted on 02/15/2013 6:27:33 AM PST by Cboldt
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