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EDITORIAL: Huddled masses in retirement Elderly immigrants are becoming wards of the state
The Washington Times ^ | Feb 15, 2013 | Editorial

Posted on 02/15/2013 7:27:33 AM PST by kabar

Entitlement spending and immigration are two issues that threaten America’s financial future. The two controversies meet in the case of the newly arrived elderly, many of whom have discovered they can cash in on an overly generous welfare system.

The scam is simple. Senior immigrants typically live with their foreign-born adult children who already have gained their U.S. citizenship. After five years of green-card status, the parents can apply for citizenship. From 2000 through 2011, about a million persons aged 60 or over were granted citizenship, accounting for about 13 percent of total naturalizations.

Often, the immigrant children are highly educated and quite well off, living in upscale homes and driving expensive cars. Their elderly parents’ standard of living is often well above that of most Americans, thanks to their children’s hard-earned success.

The only factor considered is income, and language and distance barriers render it nearly impossible for U.S. authorities to verify whether they have income in their home country.

Medicaid for recent, elderly immigrants is practically a given. They frequently take advantage of Section 8 housing benefits, which can provide an extra place to stay on weekends after keeping an eye on the grandkids during the weekdays. Elderly immigrants crowd waiting lists for Section 8 housing to the extent that the lists get closed to new applicants, resulting in a particularly perverse outcome: Many of those shut out are genuinely poor.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; socialsecurity
How much more will an amnesty for 12 to 20 million illegl aliens add to these costs? Once legalized, the lawbreakers will be able to bring in their aged parents thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification.
1 posted on 02/15/2013 7:27:41 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

This isn’t some recent discovery. The word is passed along in Mexican villages everywhere.

Go up north for retirement, them Yankees are suckers.
While you are at it demonstrate for La Raza.
Get yourself a driver’s license and medical health care.

And Yes the Amnesty program will bring new hordes into our country, while Obama voters collect unemployment, and welfare and food stamps and the rest of us have to pay for it.

Think about that when you want Rubio for President.


2 posted on 02/15/2013 7:36:05 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Don’t worry. It will all come crashing down soon enough.


3 posted on 02/15/2013 7:37:48 AM PST by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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To: Venturer

“The word is passed along in Mexican villages everywhere.”

It isn’t only Mexicans. I know lots of ME families pulling the same crap. Ain’t America great?


4 posted on 02/15/2013 7:39:13 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: kabar
Often, the immigrant children are highly educated and quite well off, living in upscale homes and driving expensive cars.

These aren't likely to be the parents of illegals from Mexico or Latin America, for the most part. Are they referring to immigrants from India or Asia?
5 posted on 02/15/2013 7:40:51 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: kabar
Reported this issue to Howie Carr 10 years ago. visiting nurse friend was charged with patients in Brighton, MA ... all turned out to be Russians who were getting free housing, medical, food stamps, furniture and appliances, etc.

also reported that people living in the projects had late model cars

turns out MA state legislature was providing these illegal immigrants cars at our expense

6 posted on 02/15/2013 7:42:59 AM PST by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: Liz; AuntB; South40; HiJinx

Ping.


7 posted on 02/15/2013 7:44:37 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: kabar

I’ve known several people, mostly visa overstayers, who have had elderly relatives visit when their hometown doctor determined that they were seriously ill. The relatives visit, go to the local US hospital, claim a lack of funds, and get US hospital treatment for free.


8 posted on 02/15/2013 7:47:14 AM PST by posterchild
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To: kabar
How much more will an amnesty for 12 to 20 million illegl aliens add to these costs?

From a Boston Herald story in June 2012: The report, a letter from Health and Human Services Commissioner Aron Boros last week to an Andover lawmaker who has been dogging the state for health cost data, says people without documents racked up $118 million in medical bills from October 2010 through September 2011, paid for through the state's Health Safety Net program funded by taxpayers, insurance ratepayers and hospitals and intended for the state's indigent residents.

That's one state, one year. On a national level...
9 posted on 02/15/2013 7:48:07 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

As you tagline says ‘what difference does it make?’


10 posted on 02/15/2013 7:49:01 AM PST by posterchild
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

As you tagline says ‘what difference does it make?’


11 posted on 02/15/2013 7:49:16 AM PST by posterchild
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To: xtinct

NJ has these scammers from all over the globe; it is destroying the country financially and leaving nothing for those paying for it now.


12 posted on 02/15/2013 7:52:22 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kabar

The Chinese in San Francisco got this figured out years ago. Just as the article state, most of their children are large property owners in the city, but their parents are living off entitlements.


13 posted on 02/15/2013 7:52:45 AM PST by bayareablues
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To: TADSLOS; Liz; All

It’s a scam alright. When I lived in Calif. an illegal alien senior got several hundred $ a month more than I did from SS, after working my entire life. Calif, and other states actually give them CASH! Calif. cut all sorts of citizen welfare, but they didn’t get rid of the senior illegal alien cash handouts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2330541/posts


14 posted on 02/15/2013 7:53:55 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: kabar

This massive government spending program is what so called “conservative” GOP like Marco Rubio and Rand Paul are pushing with Illegal Alien Amnesty.

All who support Amnesty want big government. You cannot do Amnesty without big government.....we do not have enough money for benefits...nor enough manpower to fight off those who aren’t getting benefits.


15 posted on 02/15/2013 7:59:44 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: kabar
I wondered for years how long it would take for Americans to figure out how they're being scammed here.

"American Dream' - no $h1t.

16 posted on 02/15/2013 8:00:27 AM PST by skeeter
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To: kabar
I heard the old lady the "O" talked about at the SOTU waiting in line to vote for 6 hours ....did NOT come to the USA until she was 78 years old! How is she surviving?
17 posted on 02/15/2013 8:03:24 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: bayareablues

You are correct. I see tons of elderly Chinese at the Social Security office, many who speak no English.

The abuse of our system is rampant by the foreigners and native-born, that’s why we are in such terrible shape.

Government spending will be the reason and NO POLITICIAN wants to be “the harsh one” when the Liberals are screaming for “Social Justice” which is paying a group of bureaucrats for life to steal money from the productive and redistribute it to the entitled classes of all stripes.

Immigrants should get NADA for 10 years.


18 posted on 02/15/2013 8:03:46 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: goodnesswins

Are you at work? That’s how she is surviving.

If the US goes bust, then the Globalists can re-tool the world’s currency and economy to a Marxist State where the productive will directly fund places like Mexico, Afghanistan and Somalia.

You will work under a Global Tax system and the Muslim-dominated UN will determine need.

It will be a fine day with no food, no fuel, no cars, no jobs, no real laws, and a police state (drones, internet monitoring, cameras) and massive Government bureaucracies for your healthcare and civic functions...all disarmed, of course.

No borders. No liberty. It’s what Daddy Soros wants and his Fed cronies...I could care less what people think about my tin foil hat, if you cannot see the way things are going, you are blind.

Cloward-Piven to hollow out our economy, then the real fun begins.


19 posted on 02/15/2013 8:11:54 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wac3rd

One world government, one world currency, no borders, one world standard of living, one world religion. Any questions?


20 posted on 02/15/2013 8:20:40 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: BipolarBob

Immigrants from the sub-continent and Asia are a big segment of these benefit hogs. When you go on open houses in N. County San Diego, you find a lot of homes set up for three generations. Even though the working family is well off and living in a $million house they get Medicare and SS for their parents...who split the time between here and India.


21 posted on 02/15/2013 8:43:14 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: kabar
Statement: "... Huddled masses in retirement Elderly immigrants are becoming wards of the state." Response: Of course.

Comment: Another consequence of the Euroamericans abdication of their right to govern. The ongoing conquest of our country by "Third World" vermin entitles them to a sack of American accumulated wealth. A later consequence shall be the abject poverty of Americans in their own country.

22 posted on 02/15/2013 8:54:08 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AuntB; TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana
Chain immigration---a horrific result of amnesty. All the old folks back home---- plus the extended family---- will be here, gorging on US benefits.

No question, salivating, vote-crazed US politicians are making deals w/ Third World countries (for yes votes on amnesty).

These impoverished countries have cunningly determined that amnestizing their pressure groups on US soil forces vote-crazed US politicians to handover zillions in foreign aid.

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The financial benefits to be derived from amnesty are huge--establishing a permanent Dem majority of Third World "pressure groups" exchanging votes at the ballot box for foreign aid.

IMPOVERISHED THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES W/ PRESSURE GROUPS IN THE US (here illegally): Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico (stateside), Salvador, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela.

23 posted on 02/15/2013 8:57:28 AM PST by Liz
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To: kabar
Pero, pero..los Estados Unidos del Norte es un paradisio! Mira, if you get sick, just go to la Sala de Emergencia. Los Doctores will give you better medical care than you can get anywhere in Mexico. And, the best part is, it costs nothing! Los Gavachos Estupidos pay for it all!

And if your bebe is born in EUdN, you can sign him up for el Welfare. And every month, los Gavachos Estupidos will send you un Cheque!

All los Gavachos Estupidos ask for in exchange, is that every two years, you cast la Vota for the Democrats.

24 posted on 02/15/2013 9:06:54 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: wac3rd

I should have put an /s after my question...And, yes...I know what’s going on...and no I quit contributing to Uncle Sam about 20 years ago....just couldn’t see the benefit...but, soon, I will apply for MY benefits....wasn’t going to if Romney had been elected...but, since “O” is there...I’ll go for the max.


25 posted on 02/15/2013 9:13:59 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: wac3rd

An elderly man was telling me that his wife had worked full time her entire life as a sales clerk and was drawing only around $300 in ss.

Their son married a Russian woman whose mother brought her disabled son along. They got their green cards and the mother is drawing over $600 a month for herself and more than that per month for her disabled son. All medical included too.

So, the elderly American woman worked her whole life to make sure immigrants could live in America better than she can.

The coming collapse is preplanned and will be celebrated by those in charge and all those who hate us- and depend on us.


26 posted on 02/15/2013 9:22:27 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: kabar; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

27 posted on 02/15/2013 10:04:07 AM PST by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: bayareablues

I was reading about the “maternity hotels” that California has for Chinese to produce anchor babies. Another financial drag.


28 posted on 02/15/2013 10:08:02 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: kabar

This retirement in the USA scam has been going on for years and biggest are the Chinese. Bringing elderly mom and dad here to retire in (relative luxury) and also do some baby sitting. These elderly will also get very nice disability (SSI) from Social Security system they never paid a dime into

An outrage that no one cares about because Americans lack pride. 30 years ago a prominent Japanese business executive said “America is a entertainment nation” and was right


29 posted on 02/15/2013 10:31:20 AM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: kabar
Maybe a few people should point out that Germany has solved their expensive retirment problem for aged people needing nursing care - THEY MOVE THEM TO CHECH REPUBLIC or some other poorer country.

We like a BBC show called "New Tricks" it's about old cops solving cold cases - even there they say that the national health solution for "old guys" is to tell them, "you are to old for those drugs." They guys then talk about how what they (NHS) really mean is - "go home and die." That is on a cop show.

30 posted on 02/15/2013 10:35:07 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Are they referring to immigrants from India or Asia?

Michael Savage tells about a Medicade laundering clinic in view of his studio where elderly Chinese get treated all day . . . some driving up in luxury cars. How many are being treated for real or imagined ailments, it is tough to say. But the clinic bills the government in real money and the local authorities know all about the scam but look the other way.

31 posted on 02/15/2013 10:46:16 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Venturer

Here in NoVA, it is primarily Asian families that are exploiting the system.


32 posted on 02/15/2013 12:03:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yep, they are the ones primarily who are highly educated and well off.


33 posted on 02/15/2013 12:05:12 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Where I work, there are a lot of Russian immigrants, obviously recent, don’t speak English, etc. I see lots of little old elderly Russian ladies hobbling around, in their babushkas and support stockings. Obviously they are not desirable immigrants, there is no benefit to us for them being here. They must have been brought in, legally or illegally, by family members, and no doubt we’re supporting them. It’s just insane...we can’t go on like this. We can’t take in the world.


34 posted on 02/15/2013 1:54:35 PM PST by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Nea Wood
Obviously they are not desirable immigrants, there is no benefit to us for them being here.

Unfortunately, we have a kinship based immigration system not a merit based one. We also allow legal immigrants to sponsor their relatives, including aged parents, siblings, uncles, aunts, etc. to come to this country thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. One Nigerian immigrant sponsored 83 of his relatives.

Immigration to America is not a right but a privilege. And our immigration policies should serve the best interests of this nation.

35 posted on 02/15/2013 2:35:30 PM PST by kabar
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

“An elderly man was telling me that his wife had worked full time her entire life as a sales clerk and was drawing only around $300 in ss.”

I believe it. They figure the benefit based only on the last few years of work. My last few years I was very ill and also I took care of my elderly parents, a friend dying with a brain tumor and two sick twin grandbabies...I lost everything I’d paid in for the previous 45 years..went to work when I was 11.


36 posted on 02/15/2013 2:48:03 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Bless you. My goodness.


37 posted on 02/15/2013 2:53:30 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: steve86

Thanks, but it’s all good...I knew better than to depend on the government for anything. But it sure chaps my.... when I see an elderly illegal alien getting big bucks on SSI or cash.
Not so much anger at the alien, but our shortsighted corrupt lawmakers. There’s going to be many people who retired early to take care of parents/spouses only to find out they’ve lost their benefits..I was sure shocked!

EDITORIAL: Huddled masses in retirement Elderly immigrants are becoming wards of the state
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2988825/posts
and
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2330541/posts


38 posted on 02/15/2013 3:00:00 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: kabar

Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfazx, filled up with them.


39 posted on 02/16/2013 4:06:48 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer; kabar

No lie......I saw these buildings 20+ years ago even ...this scam has been going on >>>>

You go to China Town in Manhattan and you will see multiple tall high rises at least 12 stories high that are elderly housing built by the Federal Govt and the Chinese community in cooperation. One of these joint ventures for affordable elderly housing that churches also do and even a Jewish community center near me does. I promise you that no more than 50% of the Chinese elderly living there have a long work history or any work history in America where they paid into the SS Medicaid etc systems.

IOW at least half came here to retire (sponsored by their children, and they must be legal immigrants to get in on this racket)without ever having paid in like you and I have

I call this THE RETIRE IN AMERICA FOR FREE SCAM


40 posted on 02/17/2013 12:05:10 PM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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