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Agenda 21 will cripple America, local group told
Sierra Vista Herald ^ | Bill Hess

Posted on 02/15/2013 5:02:48 PM PST by SandRat

SIERRA VISTA — The individual freedoms of Americans are being eroded to the point that future generations of citizens may see their living space compressed to something like was shown in the movie “The Hunger Games.”

That is the view of two people who spoke out against the United Nation’s Agenda 21 project, where the United States will see its citizens giving up property rights, the ability to live wherever they want and to see America’s wealth given to other countries to, in effect, create a financially- and politically-level playing field.

(Excerpt) Read more at svherald.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: agenda21; america; landgrabs; propertyrights; unitednations; unknowsbest

1 posted on 02/15/2013 5:02:58 PM PST by SandRat
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To: SandRat

btt


2 posted on 02/15/2013 5:04:48 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: SandRat

bump

beware international treaties, the effetes use them to bypass the constitution.

a treaty can trump any part of the constitution, INCLUDING THE SECOND or any bill of rights (that includes the 10th and those that follow)


3 posted on 02/15/2013 5:06:59 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SandRat

Gee...sounds like what has already been happening for as long as I can remember.


4 posted on 02/15/2013 5:07:56 PM PST by rbg81
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To: SandRat

link isn’t to the whole article


5 posted on 02/15/2013 5:17:13 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: longtermmemmory
beware international treaties, the effetes use them to bypass the constitution.

The "constitution thereof" is the/a State's own Constitution; the treaty cannot usurp or alter the Federal Constitution.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the (Constitution or Laws) of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
Read it with the parenthesis.
6 posted on 02/15/2013 5:19:19 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Actually, it can not.
From Geofroy v. Riggs, 133 U.S. 258 at pg. 267

“The treaty power as expressed in the Constitution, is in terms unlimited except by those restraints which are found in that instrument against the action of the government or of its departments and those arising from the nature of the government itself and of that of the States. It would not be contended that it extends so far as to authorize what the Constitution forbids, or a change in the character of the government, or a change in the character of the States, or a cession of any portion of the territory of the latter without its consent.”

Source: www.sweetliberty.org/issues/staterights/treaties

BTW, the UN is an organization, not a sovereign nation, and hence no “treaties” can be enforced.


7 posted on 02/15/2013 5:27:21 PM PST by Howindependent (A Liberal has no concept of reality.)
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8 posted on 02/15/2013 5:35:14 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: SandRat

One world government, one world currency, one world religion, one world standard of living. It’s for the children ya’ know. The Road to Hell is littered with Democrats.


9 posted on 02/15/2013 5:50:09 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: SandRat

Here is a great primer. This lady has been fighting the good fight for a while:

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

Spread it far and wide.


10 posted on 02/15/2013 5:58:53 PM PST by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: SandRat

Is there a video linked to the story? The comments seem to be referring to the presentation, yet the posters don’t appear to have been there.


11 posted on 02/15/2013 6:08:29 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: longtermmemmory; All
"a treaty can trump any part of the constitution, INCLUDING THE SECOND or any bill of rights (that includes the 10th and those that follow)"

longtermmemory, unless you can substantiate your assertion above with reasonable references, I respectfully disagree with your statement concerning a treaty trumping any part of the Constitution as evidenced by the following.

"In giving to the President and Senate a power to make treaties, the Constitution meant only to authorize them to carry into effect, by way of treaty, any powers they might constitutionally exercise." --Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

"Surely the President and Senate cannot do by treaty what the whole government is interdicted from doing in any way." --Thomas Jefferson: Parliamentary Manual, 1812.

"2. ..., it cannot be sustained as legislation which is "necessary and proper" to carry out obligations of the United States under international agreements made with those countries, since no agreement with a foreign nation can confer on Congress or any other branch of the Government power which is free from the restraints of the Constitution." --Reid v. Covert, 1956.

In other words, if the federal government needs a specific power to negotiate a treaty which the states have not already delegated to it via the Constitution, the Founding States had intended for the federal government to do the following. The federal government is expected to propose an amendment to the Constitution which would formally delegate the needed power to Congress if the Article V state majority chose to ratify the proposed amendment.

12 posted on 02/15/2013 6:12:43 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: SandRat

Zoning is giving up property rights.

Get rid of zoning if you care about property rights, otherwise you’re just a NIMBY.


13 posted on 02/15/2013 6:29:28 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: SandRat

What’s Agenda 21? /sarc


14 posted on 02/15/2013 6:34:14 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: All

Alabama, and several municipalities/counties, have passed laws banning Agenda21 and its system of regulations.

Nebraska is currently debating an anti-Agenda21 bill (LB482) in the Judiciary Committee.

In time, I feel that more states will follow....care to guess which kind of color?


15 posted on 02/15/2013 7:47:15 PM PST by Kolath
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To: SandRat

Agenda 21 is why you never, ever give up your guns.

Give up your guns, go to the camps.


16 posted on 02/15/2013 9:23:15 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: SandRat

bfl


17 posted on 02/16/2013 9:29:15 AM PST by pigsmith (Now I understand why America is not mentioned in the end times.)
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To: Amendment10

quite all right.

There is a vienna treaty that has a valid until signed provision.

Dick morris, though often wrong, gets this one correct.

Also Henry Kissinger is on record as using treaty to ovcome government limitations imposed by the constitution.


18 posted on 02/17/2013 4:45:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SandRat

If anyone wants to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail. It is a relatively low volume list in which we have been exploring the UN Agenda21 and related topics. We have collected our studies with threads, links, and discussions on the Agenda 21 thread which can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738418/posts

NEW ACTION THREAD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2863065/posts

Post 128 of the Action Thread is a summary of the history of Agenda 21, “what they are doing”, “what to do about it” and a good bibliography for further reading.


19 posted on 04/02/2013 2:16:51 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE; B4Ranch; hedgetrimmer; blackie

“If anyone wants to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail.”

Wow. An agenda 21 list. Whodda thunk? A dozen years ago I got labeled a KOOK for even mentioning it on FR!


20 posted on 04/02/2013 2:24:18 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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21 posted on 04/02/2013 2:53:43 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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The times, they are a-changing....

Thanks for plugging away at it while the rest of us were playing catch-up.


22 posted on 04/02/2013 10:12:17 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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