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Emeryville Chief of Police makes outrageous statement (video included)
Examiner.com ^ | February 16, 2013 | Kurtis Helena

Posted on 02/16/2013 8:41:55 PM PST by Yogafist

“One issue that always boggles my mind is that the idea that a gun is a defensive weapon, that is a myth. A gun is not a defensive weapon. A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power. Police officers don’t carry a gun as a defensive weapon to defend themselves or their other officers

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment
So, cops carry guns to dish out justice? Hmmm, thought that was what the courts were for. I don't think this clown is a very deep thinker.
1 posted on 02/16/2013 8:42:00 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: Yogafist

He’s kind of a douche, isn’t he...?


2 posted on 02/16/2013 8:43:14 PM PST by freebilly
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To: Yogafist

Isn’t the best defense a good offense?


3 posted on 02/16/2013 8:45:33 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Yogafist

A lot of cops feel the same as this clown.


4 posted on 02/16/2013 8:48:39 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Yogafist

Mr Mayor, immaterial. Your opinion doesn’t matter. The constitution is quite clear: SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. You can decide a sword or a knife or a gun is something bad, but they are still absolutely and completely protected by the constitution.


5 posted on 02/16/2013 8:49:42 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Yogafist

I’m unclear on the concept here Chief. You and your officers wear guns. And you do this for what reason?


6 posted on 02/16/2013 8:51:50 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Yogafist

what a fool


7 posted on 02/16/2013 8:52:49 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Yogafist

As I pointed out on the last thread. Emeryville is located between Oakland and Berkeley and doesn’t reflect the views held in my part of the state.


8 posted on 02/16/2013 8:55:57 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Normal isn't normal anymore.)
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To: ThomasThomas

The citizens of Emeryville should demand a new police chief. If this man disagrees with one Amendment, what others does he disagree with?


9 posted on 02/16/2013 8:58:29 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

This man just said those officers of his are not there to defend anyone with their guns, they are there to intimidate.

How nice, and this guy is still employed?


10 posted on 02/16/2013 9:02:45 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Yogafist

This guy is a moron and an embarrassment to any self respecting LEO.


11 posted on 02/16/2013 9:03:05 PM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: Enterprise

Emeryville is Barbara Lee/Nancy Skinner country. These people despise the Constitution, they despise anyone who tries to defend it.

They have the chief they deserve.


12 posted on 02/16/2013 9:09:43 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Yogafist

So he’s advocating the use of chainmail and mace as defensive weapons?

I have no idea what this moron is saying...


13 posted on 02/16/2013 9:10:49 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GeronL
"those officers of his are not there to defend anyone with their guns, they are there to intimidate."

There are a lot of questions this man needs to answer. Unfortunately, the media won't asked them, and unless he is called in for a deposition at some point, no one else is going to ask them either.

14 posted on 02/16/2013 9:11:19 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I would like to ask the Chief, that in light of his views on why the officers carry guns, if perhaps Christopher Dorner would have been an ideal officer in Emeryville.


15 posted on 02/16/2013 9:14:32 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

Someone should market Candy Drones and Gummie Goons, probably make a fortune selling them online

It’s my new business proposal... any idea on how to make candy? lol


16 posted on 02/16/2013 9:14:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I can boil water. Beyond that, there are no guarantees.


17 posted on 02/16/2013 9:17:15 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

Darn it. I want someone else to do all the work and just give me 1% for the idea.


18 posted on 02/16/2013 9:18:48 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Enterprise

If he were forced to explain what he’s talking about, his head would explode. The dude is scary stupid.

For any serious LEO, watching this democrat-party puppet with a badge must be torture.


19 posted on 02/16/2013 9:25:43 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Yogafist

Emeryville is like a postage stamp next to Oakland. I used to work there and my co-workers would try to get me to go out to lunch on San Pablo Ave.

Even in the daytime I wasn’t that stupid.

There aren’t too many places to live there, but if I did, I’d be armed to the teeth.


20 posted on 02/16/2013 9:34:57 PM PST by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: Yogafist

Time was up until the 70’s all a cop needed to do was flash a badge (star) and that was it. When the courts with their lib lienient sentencing changed this. The gun became is the intimidator and many in law enforcement view it that way. That’s where this guy is comming from .


21 posted on 02/16/2013 9:34:57 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Yogafist

“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safe, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future” Adolf Hitler, 1935.


22 posted on 02/16/2013 9:38:01 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Yogafist
So, cops carry guns to dish out justice?

They do in California.

23 posted on 02/16/2013 9:40:44 PM PST by virgil
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To: Yogafist

So Chief, let me get this straight. If the criminals are shooting at your policemen, they don’t use their guns to defend themselves from the bad guys, as well as, shooting at them to kill? A gun can be both a defensive and an offensive weapon, depending on who is brandishing it and what their situation is. For Americans who own guns for defending themselves, their family and their home, it wouldn’t be much of a defensive weapon if it didn’t also have the offensive fire power to stop or kill the bad guys they were trying to protect themselves from, now would it?

What a moron. The Peter Principle kicked in for this guy when he rose to his level of incompetency.


24 posted on 02/16/2013 9:47:53 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: Yogafist

The opening line from an article posted just a few entries above this one:

“An Egyptian security official said Saturday that the interior ministry has agreed to purchase 100,000 new 9mm pistols after low-ranking policemen went on strike demanding greater firepower to defend themselves against increased lawlessness.”

I guess those Egyptian coppers forgot the check with the solons in Emeryville before they gave some thought as to how they were going to protect themselves in their own hellholes.


25 posted on 02/16/2013 10:06:02 PM PST by Stosh
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To: Yogafist
I think all those stars have gone to his head. Who does this guy think he is? McClellan?


26 posted on 02/16/2013 10:12:54 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: Yogafist
“A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power,” he asserted,...

That's why cops have guns, right, Chief?

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." - Mao Zedong


27 posted on 02/16/2013 10:15:49 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Isn’t that the post office guy from Cheers?


28 posted on 02/17/2013 1:05:21 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Yogafist

I was not able to read the article. the G** Damned commercial came on, covered two paragraphs and was drowned out my radio.
I just moved on. Screw any G D “news”paper that does crap like that.


29 posted on 02/17/2013 5:08:10 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Tupelo

This guy is an idiot. A gun in NOTHING MORE THAN A TOOL!
Got it? How one uses that tool determines if it is used for either offense or defence. It’s the person using that tool that make the determination. Yepper, his statement was indeed outrageous.

Time for a new police chief in Emeryville.


30 posted on 02/17/2013 6:58:09 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Axenolith
"Isn’t that the post office guy from Cheers?"

Nope. John Ratzenberger, who played Cliff Claven on Cheers, is a real life conservative.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was a FReeper.

31 posted on 02/17/2013 7:06:59 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Progov
"Got it?" Yeah! I get it
Now YOU get this.
How dare you even think of talking to me like this?
F*** you and the horse you rode in on.

GOT IT?

32 posted on 02/17/2013 7:21:32 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Enterprise
I’m unclear on the concept here Chief. You and your officers wear guns. And you do this for what reason?

He said why: to "intimidate and show power."

33 posted on 02/17/2013 10:39:40 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
To Tupelo.

Sorry I ruffled your feathers. Perhaps you misunderstood my intent. If so, I apologize.

You could clean it up a bit though.

34 posted on 02/17/2013 11:04:35 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Progov

Huh?


35 posted on 02/17/2013 11:14:43 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I guess you learn something new every day. Just an opinion though, but if the Chief was starting out new, and he went to an oral board and told them that he didn’t consider a pistol as a defensive weapon, but that it was to be used to intimidate and show power, he wouldn’t be hired. Police Chiefs and Sheriff’s would understand the liability to their departments in civil suits if they had officers making public statements like that.


36 posted on 02/17/2013 12:14:20 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: mosesdapoet
"The gun became is the intimidator and many in law enforcement view it that way. That’s where this guy is comming from."

"We deal with gun violence on a daily basis and we are just asking and have been asking for reasonable regulations, not that will impact the legal gun owner but to help keep our officers and communities safe."

He made his statements in the context of regulatory control of firearms, which don't impact the legal gun owners. Regulations impact legal gun owners, they don't impact criminals. When life and death are a matter of seconds, regulations meant to keep our officers and communities safe are useless, and the police are only minutes away.

37 posted on 02/17/2013 12:45:43 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Emeryville Chief of Police makes outrageous statement (video included), Enterprise wrote:

He made his statements in the context of regulatory control of firearms, which don’t impact the legal gun owners. Regulations impact legal gun owners, they don’t impact criminals.”

Yep, and he swallowed the line that’s being driven Obama and his Demo-Coms through their instuments of propaganda to the point of disregarding training many local jurisdictions have in place in for firearm permits and use which have sucessfully reduced incidents...
But the real reason (beside general insurrection) Demo-Coms are pushing this is because of their conception of eglatarianism. How can they take guns away from those who own and use them illegally ? When there are those that have and use them legally ? That’s the way they think..There’s a snowball chance in hell that they will ever isolate and do a house to house search in areas where crime through the use of “guns” is rampant. But their mind to do that nobody can have a gun. And theyif given half a chance would size them ...those thinking otherwise are fools.

Dealing with your 2nd half
“When life and death are a matter of seconds, regulations meant to keep our officers and communities safe are useless, and the police are only minutes away. What do you expect. This guy lives in Limbaugh’s Riolinda there’s too many in law enforcement that think that way.


38 posted on 02/17/2013 4:41:45 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That was sarcasm, he looked like the character :-)


39 posted on 02/17/2013 10:17:33 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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