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Tim Tebow to Speak at Anti-Gay, Anti-Semitic Church [Hatred for Christians Continues in Media]
devils lake journal ^ | 2.16.13

Posted on 02/17/2013 8:53:53 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

New York Jets quarterback Tim Tebow is scheduled to speak at a megachurch in Dallas whose pastor has spoken out against Muslims, Jews, Mormons and members of the LGBT community.

Tebow is listed as a special guest at one of the First Baptist Church's morning services on April 28, according to its website.

The church is led by Evangelical pastor Robert Jeffress, who has previously denounced non-Christian religions such as Islam, Judaism and Mormonism.

Leading up to the most recent presidential election, Jeffress warned parishioners that re-electing President Barack Obama would "lead to the rise of the Antichrist," according to The Christian Post.

While denouncing the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," Jeffress also declared that 70 percent of the gay population has AIDS, and referred to it as "a gay disease," according to ThinkProgress.org.

Tebow has made no secret of the fact that he's a devout Christian, but has shied away from taking a stance on controversial social issues.

(Excerpt) Read more at devilslakejournal.com ...


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The church is led by Evangelical pastor Robert Jeffress, who has previously denounced non-Christian religions such as Islam, Judaism and Mormonism.

Oh, I see..Islam, Judaism and Mormonism are in the same vein? Notice how the "journalist" doesn't provide ANY specific examples of anti-Semitic speech.

Notice how the media in general doesn't speak of the leaders of the mosques of America as being anti-Christian.

I like how they used "thinkprogress.org" as a resource, too...yeah, no bias there.

No thinking Baptist puts Jews and Muslims in the same category, except that they are non-Christian. A simple Venn Diagram by any religionist would do that--and yet that religionist wouldn't be called "anti-Semitic".

Cheer for Tim Tebow, and cheers for First Baptist of Dallas for letting this young man speak.

Stand for your faith, Christians. And do not allow the hatred of the media cow you into silence.

1 posted on 02/17/2013 8:54:08 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

As a messianic Jew, I too denounce rabbinic judaism.


2 posted on 02/17/2013 8:58:19 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What an appropriate title for a newspaper.


3 posted on 02/17/2013 9:00:19 AM PST by Luke21
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To: SoFloFreeper

We live in a society where it is celebrated for people to live like animals and sodomize each other with whomever they want whenever they want. People like Tebow are demonized for being against such celebrated lifestyles. The world is upside down and Satan smiles watching the billions of people, that are totally deceived, unfold his plans to take as many with him to the Lake of Fire as he can.


4 posted on 02/17/2013 9:06:22 AM PST by eak3
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To: SoFloFreeper

This forcing the perception of “Christians are Haters and Bigots” is necessary because the Christian Theology was so dominant in Western Civilization for hundreds of years that the thinking permeated everything.

In the 1800’s the Postmodernists had one desire-—to destroy Christianity—so they could collapse Western Civ and create chaos and control the World. They knew with Christian Ethics-—which led to Freedom of Individuals (America)—they would never get control over people’s children’s minds and be able to enslave them with desires or hatred for groups.

The MSM and Marxists/Atheists need to eradicate Christianity so they can make us all into slaves. The individualism and self-sufficiency and reliance on family makes governments obsolete.

!st step was to get control over public schools with John Dewey and start erasing all Christian references for little kids and associate “evil” with Christianity through BF Skinner methodology. They also belittle parental authority all the time-—like Al Gore did in his “Earth” talk to middle schoolers-—wink, wink, kids know more about the environment than stupid parents.

These Christian haters are extremely evil people who molest children’s minds, make them dumb by teaching lies as foundational “knowledge”, they sexualize them so they develop with abnormal interest in sex, and make them into addicts through programming and glorification of evil.


5 posted on 02/17/2013 9:11:54 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: freedomson

I was raised Catholic. We were taught that other religions, including Protestants, Jews, and Muslims were wrong. Not evil, just wrong. I do not recall any cleric ever espousing what could be called an antisemitic view or remark.


6 posted on 02/17/2013 9:20:07 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: eak3

[[We live in a society where it is celebrated for people to live like animals and sodomize each other with whomever they want whenever they want. People like Tebow are demonized]]

Just liek it was in Soddom where the peopel demanded that job send out the Angel so they could have gay sex with Him- Thety were furious when jod didn’t comply- Evil IS at our door folks- and we’ve let it creep up and creep up and creep up untuil it’s right smack dab in our faces now- The more the left cried ‘hate-speech’ when the church preached agaisnt homosexuality, the MORE the church shoudl have preached it- but them ore hte left screamed, them otre silent the churches became- and now we’re faced with this evil front and center, and htrere’s nothign we can do about it but be labelled as hate-monguerers when we speak out agaisnt it, and we;ll be destroyed by the left when we do-


7 posted on 02/17/2013 9:22:05 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just because I oppose poor behavior does not mean I am anti anyone. Poor behavior needs to be confronted for the betterment of the person and our society. If I stop confronting poor behavior in my family my kids will grow up thinking “Anything Goes.”


8 posted on 02/17/2013 9:23:08 AM PST by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: eak3
We live in a society where it is celebrated for people to live like animals and sodomize each other with whomever they want whenever they want. People like Tebow are demonized for being against such celebrated lifestyles. The world is upside down and Satan smiles watching the billions of people, that are totally deceived, unfold his plans to take as many with him to the Lake of Fire as he can.

As far as the left is concerned, there is no such thing as having a legitimate difference of opinion. Anyone who expresses a view contrary to their own is portrayed as being "intolerant" and "hateful" and must be destroyed.

9 posted on 02/17/2013 9:28:56 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: SoFloFreeper

John 14:6 is the key verse in the whole Bible, it’s as simple as that.


10 posted on 02/17/2013 9:29:57 AM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! It's all your fault now, you own it.)
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To: Licensed-To-Carry

John 14:6
King James Version (KJV)

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


11 posted on 02/17/2013 9:45:26 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The 1st Amendment clearly states that the state shall not establish a religion, so the state has a complicit media do it for them. Free speech subverted for the gain of a few in power. And most people in the US are clueless as to the purpose for that specific clause is in the 1st Amendment.


12 posted on 02/17/2013 9:45:45 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

In the Tenach, the only way to atone for sin is a blood sacrifice on the temple mount. Since the destruction of the temple, that has become impossible so, the rabbis wrote a whole new way of doing things which is just plain non biblical.

Yeshua was the final sacrifice and this sacrifice, provided by God, has the power to atone for sin. “It is finished”, the old sacrifical system, Adonai has provided the perfect sacrifice for all peoples who will accept it.


13 posted on 02/17/2013 9:54:04 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: freedomson

Then you should call yourself a Christian, not a Jew.


14 posted on 02/17/2013 10:07:36 AM PST by onedoug
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To: SoFloFreeper

And one more thing....

I have watched as the Whimpification of American men has deconstructed our society into believing there is a new way, a new Genesis if you will, of man. First you destroy the perception of men being the head of the household, the one who will stand at the door and defend, God, Country and Family. How? Well, you metrosexualize them in the home, by commercials that show men useless and disrespected, you feminize their appearance, so that there is a mere resemblance of the natural characteristics of man. You take away the weapon, any weapon, they cannot comment to what is true, because they will be called bigoted, you cant watch football because they are barbarians, you cannot tell your son or daughters that love waits because...meh, they are liberated and you are old and out of date. And finally you cannot defend, because you are harboring hate, violence and dare to defend your rights as an American Citizen. God Forbid you are male, white, Godly and have an opinion. That, will be challenged, but in the end you will have no defense because you gave it away....when it was time to stand and defend, you let it pass....when it was time to turn off the t.v. and stop the madness entering your home, you watched as you nodded your head and asked what is happening to my family....as your daughters and sons bought into the corruption of the media, you did not speak of things that are good, and worthy of praise. You sold out and now look at you...you are on the sidelines...as everything you believe has been erased.....Welcome to the whimpification of man......

Thank God there are a few of you left....as I have urged and pray....stand up for the values of excellence and what God has called you to be.....love your wives your family as God has loved his church and defend her. If they were raped would you not in righteous anger defend and do what you could.....America is in a position of submission and so is your manhood...take time and count the endless assaults to men in commercials, TV shows and the media. You are to be silenced. Do you ever wonder why?

It amazes me how men are allowing, weak,unchased, skinny legged metro sexualized, frail unGodly men to speak for your gender.....women are now wearing the pants.

Not this one....I enjoy my womanhood, my motherhood, my grace and words of praise and wisdom. I have not forgotten what I have been taught. I will not succumb to the lies.

I beseech the....yes I said that...why because I want you to realize there was once a Man who spoke of wisdom and tells you how to teach your children, defend you Country and love your wives, daughter, sons.... you have dropped your sword and picked up the remote! Damn you!


15 posted on 02/17/2013 10:24:22 AM PST by Texas4ever
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To: onedoug

A do call myself a Christian.

I am also of the Jewish race.

Yeshua, was and is, a Jew.


16 posted on 02/17/2013 10:47:00 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: onedoug; freedomson
Then you should call yourself a Christian, not a Jew.

Why, exactly? Wasn't the term "Christian" coined by Roman pagans?

Was or was not Jesus a Jew? And can the servant be greater than the master?

"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."

17 posted on 02/17/2013 10:53:06 AM PST by fattigermaster (When tigers hunt, the jackals profit...when tigers sleep, the jackals rule.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why would a leader in any church NOT denounce other religions? Most religions are exclusive, after all.


18 posted on 02/17/2013 11:19:36 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SoFloFreeper
I've been attending Baptist churches all my life and have never heard a Pastor say a bad word about the Jewish faith or its people. Usually it's along the lines of "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem".
19 posted on 02/17/2013 11:27:00 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: fattigermaster
According to Acts 11.26, the disciples were first called "Christians" in Antioch, but it doesn't identify who first called them that. Antioch was founded by the Greek-speaking Seleucid kings and probably had many Greek speakers (possibly some Aramaic-speakers) and few Latin speakers, but the ending of the name Christianoi looks more Latin than Greek.
20 posted on 02/17/2013 11:30:55 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: CottShop
Just liek it was in Soddom where the peopel demanded that job send out the Angel so they could have gay sex with Him- Thety were furious when jod didn’t comply

"Lot".

21 posted on 02/17/2013 11:31:25 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He isnt going along with the nwo one world religion plan. Good pastor


22 posted on 02/17/2013 11:32:18 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: freedomson
I am also of the Jewish race.

Jewish isn't a race friend, any more than Baptist is.

23 posted on 02/17/2013 11:34:16 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

24 posted on 02/17/2013 11:34:44 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: onedoug

The term Messianic Jew is proper. It distinguishes between Christians who are Gentiles and Christians who are Jews. The first church and the first Christians were all Jews. Christianity is a Jewish religion and started that way. Just because there are more Gentiles in the world than Jews (and thus more Gentile Christians) doesn’t mean that Jesus is not a Jew and that Christianity is not a Jewish religion and that we are not observing the same Jewish religion that Jesus, as the Messiah of Israel intends to carry out in this world.

The Bible is a Jewish book and the Old Testament and the New Testament are Jewish writings. It was the Jews that God used to carry forth His Word to the world - including to all these Gentiles.

Listen to what the Apostle Paul says (and he’s fully Jewish and Christian) ...

Romans 10
1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying,

3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”?

4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

8 Just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of stupor, Eyes that they should not see And ears that they should not hear, To this very day.”

9 And David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap, A stumbling block and a recompense to them.

10 Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see, And bow down their back always.”

11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.

12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!

13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them.

15 For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?

16 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree,

18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.

19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.”

20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear.

21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.

22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;

27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.”

28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.

29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience,

31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy.

32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.

33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!

34 “For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has become His counselor?”

35 “Or who has first given to Him And it shall be repaid to him?”

36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.


25 posted on 02/17/2013 11:41:15 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

To all my friends....take a break from the madness

close your eyes and enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNVY0UjcBjE


26 posted on 02/17/2013 11:42:19 AM PST by Texas4ever
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To: SoFloFreeper
according to ThinkProgress.org.

Ooops. Totally unreliable source. Fail.

5.56mm

27 posted on 02/17/2013 11:48:00 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SoFloFreeper

Journalists follow athletes around all the time, scrutinizing their speaking engagements. Tebow isn’t being singled out for any other reason than he just can’t play at the professional level. /s


28 posted on 02/17/2013 11:48:10 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Graybeard58

It’s the descendants that God speaks about that indicates they will not disappear as a people or a race or a nation ...

One particular verse ...
“If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever.” [Jeremiah 31:36]

This “Israel” that God speaks about is of the line of “Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” - Jacob being the father of the tribes of “Israel” (God having changed his name to “Israel”).

Jeremiah 31
31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—

32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord.

33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

35 Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name):

36 “If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever.”

37 Thus says the Lord: “If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the Lord.

38 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, that the city shall be built for the Lord from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate.

39 The surveyor’s line shall again extend straight forward over the hill Gareb; then it shall turn toward Goath.

40 And the whole valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes, and all the fields as far as the Brook Kidron, to the corner of the Horse Gate toward the east, shall be holy to the Lord. It shall not be plucked up or thrown down anymore forever.”

This is a prophecy that the Messiah of Israel (Jesus) will fulfill when He returns to earth to set up the Kingdom. God says He will preserve the Jews (of the line of Israel - i.e., from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) forevermore - never to be extinguished.

Also in Jeremiah 33

19 And the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,

20 “Thus says the Lord: ‘If you can break My covenant with the day and My covenant with the night, so that there will not be day and night in their season,

21 then My covenant may also be broken with David My servant, so that he shall not have a son to reign on his throne, and with the Levites, the priests, My ministers.

22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant and the Levites who minister to Me.’ “

23 Moreover the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying,

24 “Have you not considered what these people have spoken, saying, ‘The two families which the Lord has chosen, He has also cast them off’? Thus they have despised My people, as if they should no more be a nation before them.

25 “Thus says the Lord: ‘If My covenant is not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth,

26 then I will cast away the descendants of Jacob and David My servant, so that I will not take any of his descendants to be rulers over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For I will cause their captives to return, and will have mercy on them.’ “


29 posted on 02/17/2013 11:53:58 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Isn’t he the pastor who said the Holocaust was necessary to bring about the re-birth of the Jewish national homeland? Not «anti-semitic».


30 posted on 02/17/2013 11:56:06 AM PST by kenavi (Lost the country? Win your state.)
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To: CottShop

Man, your cell phone spell checker needs some work


31 posted on 02/17/2013 11:58:01 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: freedomson

Uh oh, now you’ve done it . . .


32 posted on 02/17/2013 12:01:09 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: onedoug

Why?


33 posted on 02/17/2013 12:02:27 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: kenavi

I have ancestors in my family line, in which husband and wife were separated in different parts of the country, one part never to see the other. I have a grandmother separated from the old country - never to be able to return for the rest of her life to see her immediate family. I have a grandfather who suffered being orphaned at a young age and passed around from family to family, not really wanted by anyone. But, for all that suffering and separation and tragedy - I would have never been here. I’m grateful I’m here today.

Does that mean I hate my ancestors and would have wished them ill and would have wanted them to suffer and have to live with all that for the rest of their lives. No, it doesn’t - but I do recognize why I’m here today - and it’s because of that.

And likewise, there was immense suffering and sacrifice for many in the Holocaust and those who perpetrated it will themselves be responsible in the end. And because of that Holocaust, there was the environment in the world, which did contribute to the sequence of political events - including the 1947 United Nations Partition Plan - which the Jews fought very hard to secure - that resulted in the formation of the State of Israel.

And now Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu can say to the world (and has said, just recently, too) - that the difference between the Jews then (during the Holocaust) and the Jews now - is that they in Israel have the ability to defend themselves.

SO ... yes ... we can fully recognize the evil of the Holocaust and full recognize the part it played in the formation of the nation of Israel, sanctioned by the world community - at that time - in the United Nations.


34 posted on 02/17/2013 12:12:19 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Carry me back

I remember a Sunday in SouthTexas, where a man (huge Texan farmer) and his 5 boys and wife came and sat in the second pew. All 6 took off their hats and waited to sit until mom sat down. Many watched as all kneeled praying and sang the songs, lots of yes ma’ams and yes sirs. You know I asked where they were from. They were visitors “passin on the way to Oklahoma”. I dont know much about what the pastor spoke about that day, and I bet many do not, but I can tell you I will never forget the example. Children are waiting for a leader....in fact many adults are as well.


35 posted on 02/17/2013 12:20:35 PM PST by Texas4ever
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To: Texas4ever

I love to hear Bible-believing/teaching leaders, too. But one thing we must remember is that we already have our leader. He is Jesus the Messiah of Israel. And God has given us everything that we need to know and that we are intended to know about Him. We need no more and no other. We have Him already.

Each one of us has that leader in Jesus, the Messiah of Israel - from the Scriptures that God has given us. And one day, we will see Him return to earth to set up His Kingdom, ruling from Jerusalem over all the nations of the world (the ones we see today). That is soon to come.

Then we will have our one-world leader and our one-world government - the one that God intended to have installed on this earth.


36 posted on 02/17/2013 12:33:38 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Yes, I agree. For those that know Him.
For those that do not...we are his Ambassadors and we are not leading, we have become the tail. I do not speak individually, I speak as the Church of Christ. We have had countless opportunities. If we do have a voice, it is hardly recognizeable because we choose to try and fit in. I wait for the day, but we cannot be a Martha only.
With all due respect.
37 posted on 02/17/2013 12:48:47 PM PST by Texas4ever
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To: SoFloFreeper

The reporter is a Baptist? He/she attends this church? Wow!


38 posted on 02/17/2013 1:35:14 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: onedoug

Exactly.


39 posted on 02/17/2013 2:03:05 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: freedomson

You cannot accept Jesus and remain Jewish.

Doing so means you have abandoned Torah to commit the sin of idolatry.


40 posted on 02/17/2013 2:05:58 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Hoodat
Because I'm mindful of how specific language has been made general by the left.

Virtually all of Judaism is messianic in that it anticipates the moshiach, or the "annointed one" who, in the line of David, will establish in Jerusalem, the religious focus of the world of both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1) with no expectation however, that this person will be in any way more "divine" than anyone else.

That concept has meaning integral to Judaism itself, as the "Chosen People".

Whereas I think its in Galations where Paul admonishes his readers that there is neither gentile nor Jew, male nor female - at least in his conceptualization - but they are all one in the lord, Jesus. The term, "Christian" in Acts is first used in Antioch, probably ~80AD, and from thenceforth has been broadly used to ascribe subscription to Jesus dinity.

The meaning of words matters. At least to me.

41 posted on 02/17/2013 2:21:07 PM PST by onedoug
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
You cannot accept Jesus and remain Jewish.

How can a person change their race? Could a black man who is pro-confederacy become no longer black?

42 posted on 02/17/2013 2:28:37 PM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Tebow has made no secret of the fact that he's a devout Christian, but has shied away from taking a stance on controversial social issues.

As a "devout Christian", one's stance on "controversial social issues" would be implicit. A devout Christian cannot stand in opposition to God's Word.

43 posted on 02/17/2013 2:29:49 PM PST by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: onedoug; freedomson
I do not believe the poster was offering the case that he/she was more divine than anyone else by using the descriptor "Messianic Jew". Furthermore, Paul maintained his "Jewishness" throughout his ministry. Jesus did not shy away from it either.

By declaring oneself to be a Messianic Jew, one is saying that they still honor their Judaism as well as the Christ who completes it. You shouldn't feel slighted in that. It is a huge deal for any Jew to accept Christ as Lord and Savior, because to do so, it usually means that they become ostracized and disowned by their entire families. I don't see your average Gentile having to put up with that.

44 posted on 02/17/2013 2:44:33 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Graybeard58

Have you ever heard of Tay-Sachs disease?


45 posted on 02/17/2013 3:00:56 PM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: freedomson

‘Jewish’ is not a race just like Islam is not a race.

Judaism and Christianity are two separate religions that cannot be combined. You are either Jewish or you are a Christian. It’s indisputable.

How much knowledge of Judaism do you have? I’m not being sarcastic. I am curious because a true Jew knows the reasons why they cannot accept Jesus as the messiah or their savior and remain Jewish.

The reasons are abundant.


46 posted on 02/17/2013 3:28:25 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: freedomson
I am also of the Jewish race.

"Jewish" is still not a race.

You mention "Tay-Sachs". Let me ask you this,does the fact that the F.L.D.S. church has an extremely high amount of fumarase deficiency, an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation, mean that the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints, is a "race"?

F.L.D.S. is not a race and neither is "Jewish", no matter what you think.

French Canadians (Which is also not a "race") of southeastern Quebec have a carrier frequency similar to that seen in Ashkenazi Jews

Cajuns of southern Louisiana (Also not a "race") carry the same mutation that is seen most commonly in Ashkenazi Jews. HEXA mutations are rare and are most seen in genetically isolated populations.

"Jewish" is not a race", Just tell yourself, "Hey, I learned something today" and get over it.

47 posted on 02/17/2013 4:43:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

So Hitler was only trying to eliminate the practioners of Judahism, not Jews as a race? If the ‘jews’ would have simply renounced rabbinic Judahism than wouldn’t have been killed?

Yeah, I learned something today.

I learned what you are.


48 posted on 02/17/2013 7:22:49 PM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Graybeard58

Lot of whaT? j/k good catch-


49 posted on 02/17/2013 8:07:11 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: hattend

[[Man, your cell phone spell checker needs some work]]

My spell checker was deported back to Mexico I’m afraid


50 posted on 02/17/2013 8:09:53 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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