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Siblings Discover Dad's Scout Abuse, Remember Own
ABC ^ | 2/17/13 | NIGEL DUARA

Posted on 02/17/2013 12:28:47 PM PST by OKRA2012

On opposite sides of the world, the brother and sister sat transfixed before their computers, reading a stranger's account of long-ago secrets and deeply buried sins.

The memo was just four pages long, about an incident in 1963 at a Boy Scout camp in New Jersey. A Scout executive had gotten drunk during an overnight outing, then was discovered gambling with a group of boys. But there was more.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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More and more evidence comes to light that the BSA must stand storing against the inclusion of gay scout leaders, gay Boy Scouts and gay Cub Scouts.
1 posted on 02/17/2013 12:28:50 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

If the law were changed to allow the parents of any molested scout to weld the punishment then I would be for gays in there. My Dad was very involved with our Scouting experience in the late 60’s and 70’s. he and the other Dads did not tolerate the one or two light in the loafers guys who flitted around our group when at camp.

One of those guys went on to be one of the worst abusers in New England. I recall my Dad speaking to one of the other Dads years later agreeing they should have beaten the snot out of the guy years before.


2 posted on 02/17/2013 12:36:30 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: OKRA2012

is there any way to read more than just the first page?


3 posted on 02/17/2013 12:40:08 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

If you click on the left edge of the page, it will forward to the next page. Weird website setup.


4 posted on 02/17/2013 12:45:02 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: yldstrk

Oops! I meant click on the RIGHT edge of the page...


5 posted on 02/17/2013 12:50:41 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina

Just tried and NO it won’t. Since you got in, what did it say?


6 posted on 02/17/2013 12:53:24 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: OKRA2012
But homosexuality is GOOD.

The crime is when young scouts are deprived of an education from homosexuals.

</sarcasm>

7 posted on 02/17/2013 12:54:08 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: OKRA2012

http://www.twincities.com/national/ci_22609758/siblings-discover-dads-scout-abuse-remember-own?source=rss

Here is a link so you can read the whole thing


8 posted on 02/17/2013 12:55:29 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: WXRGina

Couldn’t get that to work for me. Wonder where they found web designers that incompetent.


9 posted on 02/17/2013 12:57:52 PM PST by PAR35
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To: OKRA2012

American Maoists demand fewer perverts in the Catholic Church and more in the Boy Scouts.These Maoists never seem to be satisfied with the pervert ratios.


10 posted on 02/17/2013 12:57:52 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: WXRGina

Couldn’t get that to work for me. Wonder where they found web designers that incompetent.


11 posted on 02/17/2013 12:58:13 PM PST by PAR35
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To: OKRA2012
"An adult in the room moved the boy away from Gray, but took no further action..."

So why didn't they beat the living shit out of him at this point?

"Gray continued to drink, grew agitated and attempted to hit someone. Adult Scouts then subdued him and eventually he fell asleep."

If not earlier, why not now? (He's subdued, here's a chance to point out his mistakes.)

Funny how you never hear about stuff like this happening 100 years ago.

12 posted on 02/17/2013 1:16:55 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

You never hear about stuff like this happening a hundred years ago because people refused to discuss it. It was too awful and embarrassing to those involved. But such things did happen.


13 posted on 02/17/2013 1:22:23 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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14 posted on 02/17/2013 1:33:06 PM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: SatinDoll
Maybe once or twice. They used a noose to prevent recidivation back then. (And it worked!)

If you read on, the BSA isn't that much different than the Catholic church in how they both handled these perverts. It was just swept under the rug, no charges filed and the pervert is free to go somewhere else and continue to molest and rape.

15 posted on 02/17/2013 1:47:38 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: SandRat

There is a teeny weeny arrow to click, really hard to see.


16 posted on 02/17/2013 2:16:38 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Vermont Lt

Hah! You should’ve been in Scouts in the 50’s. Almost to, a swinging d!ck, they had served in the Big One (to borrow a phrase from Dobie Gillis) and they were entirely unsympathetic to any whining or moaning from us as when it went below zero at Joshua Tree National Monument in January of ‘58. Did we freeze our asses off? You bet! But it made us stronger mentally and psychologically.

Queers? Yeah, they were present in the priesthood even back then, but, we 13-year-olds had a jungle telegraph about which one to stay away from.

In the Scouts? Don’t remember any thing close. Probably because ‘Chuck’ Bossun and the other scout leaders scared the piss out of them.


17 posted on 02/17/2013 2:18:05 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: SandRat; PAR35
Comment #8 has a version that is easier to view.

I didn't see anything on the edges, but just tried clicking once on the right edge, and it paged forward. It worked both going forward and on the right edge to return to the previous page. Pretty crummy page design for sure.

18 posted on 02/17/2013 2:20:18 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: OKRA2012

“A Scout executive had gotten drunk during an overnight outing, then was discovered gambling with a group of boys.”

Standing rule in my troop was the scoutmaster’s camp was off limits after 9:00pm. They used throw back cases and see they could get the campfire hot enough to melt beer bottles.

Good times!


19 posted on 02/17/2013 2:38:07 PM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: WXRGina

Thanks.


20 posted on 02/17/2013 2:55:46 PM PST by PAR35
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To: yldstrk
Try this link
21 posted on 02/17/2013 3:03:10 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: x1stcav

Spot on. Our Scout leader served on Tarawa and Iwo, and he made men of us, in spite of our self. He kept in touch with me when I was in the Corps.


22 posted on 02/17/2013 4:47:34 PM PST by gunner03
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To: gunner03

Different era my friend. One that I miss sorely.

Scouting, athletics, hell, even school was more more than just attending and getting grades. It was to prepare us for manhood.

Too bad education became feminized.


23 posted on 02/17/2013 5:29:21 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: Slump Tester

I understand Robinson Curuso was caught trying to bugger a shipmate and he was not shipwrecked but maroned with just enough to survive. that could be why you didn’t hear of many cases


24 posted on 02/17/2013 6:10:07 PM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: OKRA2012
As this article shows the BSA has already been through it's own version of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". Didn't work out so well.

If they cave the organization is finished.

25 posted on 02/17/2013 6:29:44 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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American Maoists demand fewer perverts in the Catholic Church and more in the Boy Scouts.These Maoists never seem to be satisfied with the pervert ratios.

They go hammer and tong at the Catholic Church, because some Bishops protected homosexual, abusive priests, yet they're willing to set the same situations up in the Boy Scouts. Ironic, isn't it?

26 posted on 02/17/2013 7:17:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: OKRA2012

I refuse to believe that there is such a thing as a gay cub scout. I think prior to the age of puberty, it is few and far between that a boy, or girl, is actually homosexual. Even Fraud spoke of a latency period and for him all things where sex.

As for the Scouts, they, AND the Catholic Church, did what was expected at the time. Homosexuality and Pedophilia where considered mental disorders. They are in actuality by definition deviant sexual disorders. They sent the man to a mental institution AND kicked him out of the organization. What else was expected? I suppose they should have called the police, but at the time, that was the norm FOR ALMOST ALL ORGANIZATIONS.

Now the norm is touchy feely bull shit about how a person can’t help it, they where born that way. Well, Mr. Salem, our scout master, was a Marine veteran of Korea and along with my father and the other men with sons in the troop, would have corrected the attitude of anyone that would have sexually abused any child.

As for physical abuse, the camping in tents at 20Deg and having to eat our own cooking was enough physical abuse for anyone.


27 posted on 02/17/2013 9:41:25 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

As for physical abuse, the camping in tents at 20Deg and having to eat our own cooking was enough physical abuse for anyone.


Amen. Boys don’t need to be homosexualy harassed and raped to boot.

Homo activists want to re-establish their sex ring in the Scouts. If they give in to the homos, parents need to get their boys out of the Scouts. Scout leader have way too much authority, power and opportunity...


28 posted on 02/17/2013 10:12:07 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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