Skip to comments.Danica Patrick wins Daytona 500 pole position
Posted on 02/17/2013 12:43:17 PM PST by Libloather
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I won’t pretend to be a huge race fan, but living in Indianapolis, I do catch a thing or two. I also can’t spout Danica statistics, but in my perception, she gets nervous when she’s racing in a group of cars. The open-wheeled cars have much more down force; the NASCAR vehicles get a little “loose” when cars are directly behind you-which is typical of the Daytona-style races. I think she’ll get squeamish when it happens, and will drop back, or cause the first “big one” at Daytona 2013.
Just as long as NASCAR doesn’t require parallel parking to win she’ll be OK.
That’s no problem. Sprint Cup cars have power steering!
Danica has admitted to doing that and was not punished by NASCAR
I know you were joking, but when you think about it a NASCAR race sort of does require parallel parking. And it’s a somewhat critical skill when a driver pits during a safety car period along with everyone else and his dog.
They added the restrictor plates since 1988 for Daytona and Talladega super speedways. During high-speed spins the cars were getting airborne and only luck kept them from punching through the fencing and going into the grandstands. The flaps that flip up when they spin were added for the same reasons. I think 204 mph was the Daytona record for qualifying before the restrictor plates were added. They sometimes get airborne in the current confguration.
She likes to go fast, you’d probably get hurt.
It’ll be like the guy at the front of the Boston Marathon... tripping.
“Poles are for strippers”
Sarah makes more sense than all other pols....
204mph sounds about right for the Daytona lap record. And Talladega was even faster; Bill Elliott pulled a 212.7mph lap in qualifying for one of the 1987 races there.
Given the extra twenty-plus years of engine and aero development on Cup cars, I wouldn’t be surprised to see one turn 220mph laps at ‘Dega with an unrestricted engine. Which is probably why it wouldn’t be a good idea; I suspect the day one of those cars clears a catch fence and lands in a grandstand will be the day motorsports dies in this country.
You forgot Juan Pablo to round out the cross-cultural appeal.
because shes a female I bet
Seriously? I take it you never watched much NASCAR. Quite a few drivers are known for swapping paint with other drivers on purpose. Why do you think Dale Earnhardt earned the nickname The Intimidator was it because he gave other drivers stern looks? And drivers such as Geoff Bodine, Cale Yarborough, Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon and Kyle Busch to name just a few, all have had run ins with other drivers, sometimes retaliatory run ins, bumping and pushing other drivers off the track and causing accidents and even getting into fistfights with other drivers. There is of course a fine line between aggressive driving and dirty driving but there have been quite a few who have crossed that line from time to time, a good many end up in the winners circle.
crashing at 196 vs 206 I don’t think will make much difference.
I was just wondering because the speed she got the pole at seems to be lower than what I remember people qualifying for pole was a few years ago, up in the 204-206 range, maybe 209 range on a good day.
She publicly admitted trying to make someone crash
You know, I think I may be erroneously crossing this with formula racing. For some reason I thought daytona was formula but someone posted about Nascar, so maybe I am thinking of formula races where I’m seeing those guys crusing around the twohundred-teens for pole.
There was one open-wheel race at Daytona in 1959, shortly after the track opened, sanctioned by USAC. The speeds were high enough to be dangerous, and this race produced the track’s first fatality. It was never repeated.
Fast-forwarding a few years, and moving to a different high-banked track, anyone remember the CART race at Texas Motor Speedway in 2001?
what does she weigh? like 100 lbs. Do the cars have to all weigh the same?
All drivers are going to have to adjust to the new car designs this year. I just hope there isn't major mishap that wipes out 1/3 of the field.
They’re equally as fun.
Stewart is much more likely to do that.
F1 cars are a good deal faster. A lot of the F1 guys don’t like racing at the super speedways. They’re just going to fast. That’s how Dan Wheldon died at Vegas.
I liked JPM in F1, and he recently helped Pruett and Rojas win the Rolex 24 at Daytona in a Grand Am car. He drove the wheels off it, getting some impressive avg laptimes.
I always watch the Daytona 500, but am just a casual NASCAR fan.
And why do you think she keeps losing? Because the guys give her payback on the track by making her crash. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do it again at this race.
If I’m not mistaken, minimum weight includes the driver. So, less driver = more ballast.
I know one of her PIT guys ... “she is a true competitor, one of the guys and never plays the “I’m a Girl” card”... they think she is beyond awesome.
Good enough for me
Now if we could find an Halfrican President that would follow similar rules
JPM was a badass in CART. More so than he was in F1, frankly.
“Id look for her to relinquish that top position quickly, and drop back...”
You can’t expect her to be on top all the time, now can you?
plus she is a low informational voter!
It wasn’t the speed; it was the sudden stop. And probably a greater contributing factor was the fact that IndyCar decided to start more cars (34) on a 1.5-mile high-banked oval than they do at Indianapolis (33, and Indy is 2.5mi, btw). Considering that incident involved 15 cars, it’s a wonder that Wheldon was the only one who was killed.
I think the fix is in. If she doesn’t crash, she wins.
I think the fix is in. If she doesn’t crash, she wins.
Don’t forget A J Foyt either. He won Daytona in 72 and won Indy four times.also won 24 hours of Daytona and the 24 hours of Lemans.
I’ve never attended a NASCAR race, but I’ve attended a few Indy 500s. I used to be a fan, but there are so many foreign drivers that I don’t follow too closely anymore.
I follow NASCAR though I’m not a fanatic.
You fools should be ashamed of yourself. Get your mind out of the gutter. You obviously don’t have a clue what it takes to do what she is doing. I race formula cars in one of the developmental programs for Indy cars and it is one of the most intense things you can ever do. Try 130mph in an open wheel car in the rain and then make your stupid gutter comments
And thats never happened before?
Jeff Gordon recently admitted wrecking another driver. He was fined $100k and docked 25 points and got a month of probation and a lot of people think he got off light but actually all that was for his part in the post race brawl, not for wrecking Bowyer to which he admitted wrecking on purpose. Tony Stewart about a month earlier admitted to causing a huge wreck at Talladega although he said he screwed up. Nothing happened to Stewart. But in the past Stewart has not only admitted to wrecking other drivers but has publicly vowed to keep doing it.
One week later, he provided NASCAR with one of its most controversial moments. At the August Bristol race, Earnhardt found himself in contention to win his first short track race since Martinsville in 1995. When a caution came out with 15 laps to go, leader Terry Labonte got hit from behind by the lapped car of Darrell Waltrip. His spin put Earnhardt in the lead with 5 cars between him and Labonte with 5 laps to go. Labonte had four fresh tires and Earnhardt was driving on old tires, which made Earnhardt's car considerably slower. Labonte caught Earnhardt and passed him coming to the white flag, but Earnhardt drove hard into turn two, bumping Labonte and spinning him around. Dale went on to collect the win while spectators booed and made obscene gestures. I didn't mean to turn him around, I just wanted to rattle his cage", Earnhardt said of the incident. Earnhardt finished 7th in the standings that year, and looked like a contender again.
Here is another article comparing the racing styles of Earnhardt Sr. and Kyle Busch who also likes to initiate bumper cars.
If Danica Patrick should be kicked out of NASCAR, then so should a lot of other male drivers.
The less the driver weighs, the more fuel the pit crew can pump in to the tank during pit stops. Fewer stops for fuel can be a big advantage. I don't think there is a limit to fuel tank size.
True 196 isn’t much lower than 206.....but who knows how fast they could go by now, if it weren’t for all the restrictions.
My bad, I always confuse them. Thanks for the correction. If I remember, you put threads on F1 up.
Good question. According to this:
Do heavier drivers have a disadvantage over the drivers that dont weigh as much?
Each car must weigh a minimum of 3,400 pounds ready to race, which includes the weight of the gas, oil, water, etc. Weights are added to cars whose driver weighs less than 200 pounds. Based on a starting driver weighing 200 pounds, drivers add weights in 10-pound increments up to a maximum of 50 pounds. For example, a driver weighing 185 pounds, adds 20 pounds of weigh to the car, and a driver weighing just 145 pounds adds the maximum 50 pounds(7-19-2000)
From what I understand, the drivers weight doesnt make all that much of a difference but in fact a rather than being an advantage a lighter driver is somewhat disadvantaged but then again has a very slight advantage as they not only have to add weight to their car to bring it to the minimum, but can add it all to the left side of the car which supposedly helps in the turns.
I would think being in good overall shape and perhaps not being too small and light or grossly overweight is more of an advantage as drivers can lose 5 to 10 pounds during the course of a race.
It’s still a MAN’S SPORT, as far as I’m concerned.
Anyone watching Danica Patrick in 2012 should realize that she is serious about racing and will be capable of winning.
She's gained experience & learned from running in the pack, getting crashed and finally learning to pay it back.
Like 'em or not, the Go Daddy ads gave her name recognition outside of auto racing as well as guaranteed sponsorship, and they're certainly less demeaning than pimping for reverse mortgages.
If nothing so far makes the case - Tony Stewart ain't no kinda PC guy and he's putting his name and money behind her ability; he even predicted that she'd go faster than him at Daytona, and she did.
If you won't bet on Danica, bet on Smoke.
Reality TV is not real.
It’s always great to see a driver get their first pole position. The fact that she is the first woman to do it is also historic, and worthy of reporting and applauding.
I thought she got too much press w/o many accomplishments in past years in Indy, but in this case she deserves all the press she gets in the next week.
The trick will be doing this consistently and getting race results.
“Try 130mph in an open wheel car in the rain and then make your stupid gutter comments”
Um, you do realize she poses half naked, right?
It doesn’t take much effort to drive 130mph in the rain or otherwise on a dedicated roadway. Jut push the gas pedal. No effort at all. The trick to winning is primarily the engineering of the vehicle and the strategic planning of the fuel/tire stops.
tell you the truth, i would truly love to see them on a SS just once to see what they could do, with the right gears that is
so basicly the driver does not matter any more? (spam in a can?)
At Daytona, I don’t remember what year, but probably mid 1980s, there was an auto magazine write up about top speed at a superspeedway. There was a runoff between an IMSA GTP prototype and a purpose-built NASCAR type car. The IMSA prototype was the Al Holbert Lowenbrau Porsche 962 with a low-drag Le Mans rear body work and wing attached, and maybe just a different gearbox, but a pretty stock race car. The NASCAR was something I don’t remember, but I don’t think it met any NASCAR rules as it was purpose built for this run and no reporting on what it had or how many laps it could last.
The Porsche ran an oval lap at around 250 mph. The “Nascar” ran a few MPH faster. Just shows what speeds could be attained if the rules did not keep the speed down.
It would be pretty cool to see them run at Daytona or Talladega.