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The Sanders-Boxer Carbon Tax Will Be 15 Times Costlier Than Letting Warming Happen
What's Up With That ^ | February 17, 2013 | Christopher Monckton of Brenchley

Posted on 02/17/2013 2:54:59 PM PST by lbryce

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I have said many times, Obama's plan to eviscerate the US requires many approaches, strategies, all of which he has meticulously planned out to make sure the US can never recover from the economic, political disaster he plans on having fully implemented by the time his second term is up.

Just to mention a few of what he has planned, the implementation of Obamacare and its much higher costs than imaginable designed to hit small business, the very backbone of the US economy,the federal budget running amok, purposely allowed to be out of control,the implementation of the Global Warming initiative, the taxes it promotes, and the wholesale effect on the economy by severely limiting the amount of carbon the US economy will be allowed to use, even his use of predator-drones are solely to sow hatred, vehemence globally by allowing the wanton death of entire families through the collateral death of innocents, the hatred against the US remaining for generations, as the recent article that 92% of Pakistanis dislike America, are all just a few of Obama's initiatives to destroy the country, that when fully put into place, will combine to exponential effect in its synergistic destructiveness of the US.

1 posted on 02/17/2013 2:55:08 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

The carbon tax will monetize thin air and completely destroy your freedoms.

Your furnace isn’t efficient enough, there’s a tax for that. Your car doesn’t get enough mileage, there’s a tax for that. Your house has insufficient insulation, there’s a tax for that. You don’t have a smart meter on your house, there’s a tax for that...........


2 posted on 02/17/2013 3:01:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lbryce

It is all about taxes and a collapsed economy followed by strong man rule. This is what the huge ammunition purchases are about IMO.


3 posted on 02/17/2013 3:01:59 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk
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4 posted on 02/17/2013 3:04:05 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: cripplecreek

Typical RAT behavior.


5 posted on 02/17/2013 3:12:13 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: lbryce

According to the article, the so-called carbon tax would impact the average Earth temperature by less than 0.2 Celsius. Statistically, that order of magnitude of change is considered “noise”.
As usual, the “progressive” Senators Boxer and Sanders pulling out the same old disproven pseudo science canards of anthropogenic global warming (blizards, record cold temperatures are due to global warming! The sky is falling!). Throw in the canard that “There is a consensus, the science is settled”. BOVINE SCAT! Science is based on fact, not some consensus enforced by political commisars. This has been exposed by even Peter Moore, founder (no longer member) of Greenpeace.


6 posted on 02/17/2013 3:20:19 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Fred Hayek

As Nancy Reagan said “Just say no”


7 posted on 02/17/2013 3:36:53 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: cripplecreek

This is not about the effects of carbon dioxide on the relative warmth of the earth’s atmosphere, and it never was.

This is a tax on producers, and indirectly, a consumption tax on everybody. Its singular purpose is to REDUCE the amount of energy generated by combustion of carbon-based fuels, by making any such power production so very costly, that solar and wind power generation, as irregular and unreliable as they are, somewhat competitive in cost to the consumer, as compared to coal, natural gas or petroleum put to use in heat production, whether for power generation, transportation, or home heating purposes.

Neither wind or solar power will ever be much more than scientific curiosities, in the same league as perpetual motion machines or the mining of the sea for gold. The costs are simply too great for the value of the product recovered.

There is a way to use nuclear energy for power generation, with far fewer of the undesirable end products that result from using U-238 as the power source, or “fuel”. There is great potential for using a thorium-based nuclear power plant, but because it cannot be made into a fission bomb, the technology has largely been stalled for perhaps the last sixty-five years or so.

Some 97% of the energy available still remains in “spent” uranium power rods, energy that can be mostly released using the thorium-powered atomic piles, which would vastly reduce the atomic “waste” that is now moldering away in various storage dumps all over the world.

Yet this technology will not be pursued, because of superstitious fears that are fed endlessly by the anti-power crowd, those who do not WANT widespread prosperity and cheap energy, for whatever reason.


8 posted on 02/17/2013 3:40:09 PM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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To: lbryce

As if letting warming happen is bad in the long term.

An assumption, and a dangerous one.


9 posted on 02/17/2013 3:42:02 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: lbryce

There is no global warming.

If you were somehow able to remove all 0.03% of our atmosphere that’s made up of CO2, all you’d do is kill off 99.9999% of the life on the planet.

Oxygen levels have been dropping for millions of years as it is. We need more CO2 so more plants will make oxygen. We just can’t seem to produce any.


10 posted on 02/17/2013 3:43:52 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: lbryce

I doubt that they accounted for the BENEFITS of a warmer globe in their cost/benefit analysis — fewer people dying from cold, more temperate climate for growing crops, open arctic sea lanes averting billions in fuel costs through the Panama canal, earlier backyard BBQs in the springtime, improved beer sales.


11 posted on 02/17/2013 3:55:18 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: alloysteel
Yet this technology will not be pursued, because of superstitious fears that are fed endlessly by the anti-power crowd, those who do not WANT widespread prosperity and cheap energy, for whatever reason.

The reason?

Because when you are prosperous you can tell them to s*** in their hats and pull it over their ears and call it curls.

They can't have that. Even the most blue collar of types unless their is no rudder or keel get it when they come into wealth. And then they begin to vote differently.

More important is they may not want all that gooney-goo's for Government Programs when they could pay it themselves.

Their greatest enemy IMHO at this point is some land owner in PA, VA or OH that has been doing ok or eeking out a living and now has a net worth of over 7 digits because they have a ton of Gas on their land because they allowed it to be Fracked.

They didn't get it via via an Apparatchik at Harvard or Yale, or they never were down with the struggle. How dare they extract Wealth from Mother Gaia. Which is were real wealth come from, raw minerals & materials turned into products via engineers that develop products that make people happy. How dare they! Only Guberment can make you happy!!!

Besides you can't be a surf to the utopian control schemes, with Fracking, Thorium Pebble Reactors small enough that maybe they are even in their neighborhood, getting royalties from coal because Fluidized Beds finally took off, etc etc etc. Why Only Soro's can buy stocks in those companies or him and Bwaney Fwank are the only ones getting in on the IPO's. How dare us peasants try to make our lives better!!!

12 posted on 02/17/2013 3:57:19 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: cripplecreek

If it would only stop there. You are allotted 1,000 miles per year in your ICE-powered auto or truck. There’s a tax for 1,000 to 5,000 miles. Nobody is allowed to drive more than 5,000 miles per year. Then, you aren’t allowed to leave your state. After that, you are required to live your entire life within a 50 mile radius of your birthplace. AC is banned. Offices are kept at 85F in the summer and 62F in winter. You’ll be charged $5,000 per year for a single parking place in the company parking lot if you drive to work — better carpool to share the pain. Driving solo will cost you a $4,000 per year permit. Cities all have “congestion fees” to prevent autos from entering.

Welcome to Dystopia...designed and engineered for you by Democrat commies.


13 posted on 02/17/2013 4:00:37 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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You are allotted 1,000 miles per year in your ICE-powered auto or truck. There’s a tax for 1,000 to 5,000 miles. Nobody is allowed to drive more than 5,000 miles per year.

That'll fix us rural bitter clingers.
14 posted on 02/17/2013 4:08:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Did Hillary get an Emmy for that "What difference does a cover-up worse than Watergate make?" performance? Did anyone notice that she employed the very same tactic that 0bama did during the debate when Romney challenged him on not calling Benghazi a terror attack? Why didn't one Congressman call Hillary on her aggressive deflection tactic? She should've just said "we're guilty as hell so don't probe us any further or the truth might come out!!".

I do agree with the other comment that the large ammunition purchases being made are 1) to lessen citizens' ability to get ammo and 2) for the gov't to use on the people within 10 years, if we make it that far.

Term 2 for 0bama is about gun confiscation and controlling Americans with insane regulations "for the Earth's sake". It's all about destruction and control.. 0bamacare will be disastrous and term 2 'climate change' regulations will be the final nail in Uncle Sam's coffin.

15 posted on 02/17/2013 4:27:29 PM PST by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: lbryce

That is an excellent summary! And I doubt that Obama is thinking this up all by himself. Valerie Jarrett and the Muslim Brotherhood are helping him bring down our nation. He is no more than Jarrett’s Parrot.


16 posted on 02/17/2013 4:45:31 PM PST by abclily
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The cost of abating global warming via the U.S. carbon tax over ten years is given as $1.2 trillion.

Looks to be about $400.00 for America at 300 million. If you assume only about 100 million work in this country, it's about $1,200.00 per worker or $100.00 a month on your gas bill. No hope of change left in yer pocket.
17 posted on 02/17/2013 4:48:20 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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Taxing us back to the stone age is much more effective and will receive less attention than if zero actually tried to legislate us back to the stone age.

And, conservatives are so weak and complacent, we’ll do nothing about it!


18 posted on 02/17/2013 5:31:47 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: abclily

Why, thank you so very much! Your kind words are most appreciated.


19 posted on 02/17/2013 6:38:14 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheiner at Trinity NM)
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