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Jewish leader raps US for taking aircraft carrier out of Gulf
The Times of Israel ^ | February 17, 2013, 3:06 pm | By David Horovitz

Posted on 02/17/2013 10:29:39 PM PST by F15Eagle

Iran could see move as ‘a diminution’ of the American commitment to keep all options on the table, warns Malcolm Hoenlein in an unusually robust critique

A top American Jewish leader on Sunday criticized the Obama administration for cutting its aircraft carrier presence in the Persian Gulf region from two carriers to one. He said the move sent entirely the wrong message to Iran about America’s commitment to keep all options, including the military option, on the table in the struggle to thwart Tehran’s nuclear drive.

“I’m personally very disturbed by the withdrawal [of one of the US's two aircraft carriers] from the Persian Gulf, the Arab Gulf, because of the message it sends to the Iranians,” said Malcolm Hoenlein, the long-time executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organization, in unusually critical comments. “We have to think about how the Iranians perceive it.”

Hoenlein said he well understood that budgetary pressures may have necessitated the move, but feared that it would be “interpreted by the Iranians as a diminution of our commitment that all options are on the table, which is the only thing that will bring them — if anything will — to a reasonable stance” as regards their nuclear program.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bible; bibleprophecy; ezekiel38; gogmagog; iran; israel; lastdays; prophecy

1 posted on 02/17/2013 10:29:58 PM PST by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

Obummer probably moved the carrier as part of a pout in reaction to Israel’s move against the truck/arms column in Syria.

There is little question about which side Dear Leader has taken in the Middle East, even though he publicly denies it. Just how stupid are his Jewish Democrat supporters? THAT, I will never understand...!


2 posted on 02/17/2013 10:39:08 PM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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3 posted on 02/17/2013 10:40:06 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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4 posted on 02/17/2013 10:41:06 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: F15Eagle

It’s what Jews voted for. It’s what they got.

If they want different results, they should think about their voting patterns.


5 posted on 02/18/2013 12:01:41 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

I doubt the conservative Jews in Israel wanted this clown.

But leftists in Israel, America, etc., yes, they did.

They weren’t the largest percentage, though.

Blame American liberals of all groups first.


6 posted on 02/18/2013 12:03:44 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

Add up the cash funneled into Obama’s campaign from lefty Jews, then get back to me with that math.

Money talks. Big piles of money talk louder.

Jews got what they voted for. They’ll get what they wanted... hopefully, good and hard.


7 posted on 02/18/2013 12:05:47 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

The percentages of voters are where it is at.

And we’ve seen a lot of demographics on that.


8 posted on 02/18/2013 12:11:35 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

69% of the American Jewish vote went to Obama.

The only racial group breaking more strongly to Obama was the black vote.

Jews got what they voted for. If they want different results, they need to vote differently. Since most American Jews conflate their politics with religion, I care not a whit what happens to them. They’re getting what they voted for.


9 posted on 02/18/2013 12:15:52 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

So, if it wasn’t for Jews, then Obama would have never gotten in office the second or first time?

Jews were the overwhelming percentage that made the difference in the elections?


10 posted on 02/18/2013 12:17:45 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

No, I’m saying on any complaint Israel or Jews have about what Obama does in mideast policy, they got what they voted for, and they deserve it.

If they don’t like what Obama is doing in the middle east or WRT to Israel, they should have thought about that before voting for him.


11 posted on 02/18/2013 12:38:30 AM PST by NVDave
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To: F15Eagle

Well then quit voting for the anti Israel pro Muslim party you self loathing jackasses

Le Tribe contribute to their successes as much as anyone

Maybe more


12 posted on 02/18/2013 12:39:05 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: F15Eagle

Well then quit voting for the anti Israel pro Muslim party you self loathing jackasses

Le Tribe contribute to their successes as much as anyone

Maybe more


13 posted on 02/18/2013 12:39:23 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: NVDave

Well if this guy voted for Obama, then no, he has no right to complain.

I say the overwhelming fault of Bammy being in office was liberal Catholics, liberal Protestants, liberal blacks, liberal whites, liberal Latinos, liberals, liberals, liberals.

Liberals of all stripes.


14 posted on 02/18/2013 12:41:19 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: wardaddy

If only other non-Jewish liberals would do as you suggest.

It would actually make a difference.

There are about 6 million Jews in America. There are about 37+ million blacks in America, 88% or more who voted for Bammy. These are rough numbers of course.

Then we’d have to factor in liberal Latinos, whites, etc.

Lots of liberal Jews DO work against the state of Israel.

They must believe the problem will go away if Israel did (it won’t).

Well, they will meet the Antichrist, many of them.


15 posted on 02/18/2013 12:45:56 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: NVDave; wardaddy

I hate using Wiki as I consider it often unreliable but for speed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Hoenlein

Says this guy’s group (not the author) was against pro-Israel Palin and his group had invited Hillary.

So, yes, he sounds like a typical Democrat liberal Jew.


16 posted on 02/18/2013 12:50:12 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

Maybe that paragraph was too vague. Here it is:

On Sept 18th, 2008, Hoenlein announced that the coalition of groups sponsoring a rally to protest Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had concluded they must rescind an invitation to vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin. According to an interview Hoenlein gave to NBC/NJ, the invitation was initially extended to balance Sen. Hillary Clinton, who had long been on the rally agenda.[2]

Says he was also appointed for a trip by Bush:

President George W. Bush appointed Hoenlein to serve on the Honorary Delegation to accompany him to Jerusalem for the celebration of the 60th anniversary of the State of Israel in May 2008.[3]


17 posted on 02/18/2013 12:55:13 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

I didn’t need Wikipedia to know this. I had run across his group in Obama’s first election - and the primaries running up to same.

Some of us are blessed with particularly long and detailed memories... and we keep score.


18 posted on 02/18/2013 1:31:04 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

Interesting, wonder why Bush appointed him for that trip to Israel?


19 posted on 02/18/2013 1:34:02 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

Because he’s been the executive vice chairman of that group since 1986.

In other words, if you want to lend an air of “we’re reaching out to Jewish folks on topics in the middle east” to one’s administration (if you’re Bush), you reach out to him.


20 posted on 02/18/2013 1:40:27 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave
Jews got what they voted for. They’ll get what they wanted... hopefully, good and hard.

Given your logic, since Americans voted for Obama, we'll ALL get what we wanted... "Hopefully good and hard."

Mark

21 posted on 02/18/2013 5:46:06 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: F15Eagle
“As in water face reflects face,
So a man’s heart reveals the man.”~Proverbs 27:19

B.O.’s going to allow Iran to get the bomb just like he did the NorKs. Fasten your seatbelts. And our entire nation is reaping what it has sown in putting this sociopath in control of the free world.

22 posted on 02/18/2013 7:06:56 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the Terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: F15Eagle
High Flight By John Gillespie Magee, Jr. (A sonnet written by John Gillespie Magee, an American pilot with the Royal Canadian Air Force in the Second World War. He came to Britain, flew in a Spitfire squadron, and was killed at the age of nineteen on 11 December 1941 during a training flight from the airfield near Scopwick.) Portions Of This Lovely Poem Appear On The Headstones Of Many Interred In Arlington National Cemetery, Patricularly Aviators And Astronauts "Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth, And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings; Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air. "Up, up the long delirious burning blue I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace, where never lark, or even eagle, flew; and, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of God."

The Persian Gulf is too small to hold a Carrier Group.

I'm Former Army, and we depend on you Navy guys to get it right!

Rant off ... smoke 'em if you got 'em .................................................................................... FRegards

23 posted on 02/22/2013 7:23:09 PM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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