Skip to comments.Ben Carson Owes No Apologies
Posted on 02/18/2013 4:48:16 AM PST by Kaslin
According to Cal Thomas, well-known nationally syndicated columnist, Dr. Ben Carson owes President Obama an apology.
Carson spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, DC this past week a bi-partisan annual event held since 1953, attended by members of Congress and usually the President.
President and Mrs. Obama were present this year and Thomas feels that Dr. Carson was out of line for including in his remarks comments about areas considered public policy our national debt, our tax system, our publics schools, and health care.
According to Thomas: Our politics have become so polarized and corrupted that a president of the United States cannot even attend an event devoted to drawing people closer to God and bridge partisan and cultural divides without being lectured about his policies.
Dr. Carson is an African American physician, Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, who rose out of poverty in a ghetto in Detroit. He was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bush in 2008 and is a role model for every American of every background.
Im also proud that he serves on the national advisory board of my organization, CURE.
Although Carson did mention these various aspects of how we manage or mismanage our national affairs, he never once referred to the president or associated his comments on these issues with any political party.
To the extent to which President Obama might have taken Dr. Carsons remarks as personal criticism, it would only be in the sense of If the shoe fits, wear it.
To the contrary, Dr. Carson began his remarks with citations from Proverbs and Chronicles, and tied the issues he spoke about to his broader theme about the moral crisis of our nation today. He talked about the moral decay of ancient Rome and how they destroyed themselves from within.
And he then expressed optimism about Americans being able to solve our problems because we are smart and that we have some of the most intellectually gifted people leading our nation.
No, if President Obama was offended by Dr. Carsons penetrating remarks, it is because the president had to be the one losing perspective of the moral tone of the event and Dr. Carsons observations.
What seems to offend Cal Thomas is that Dr. Carson has not fallen victim to the Washington disease that Thomas himself seems to have contracted as result of too many years in our nations capital.
Carson noted the vital importance of freedom of expression in America and how political correctness keeps people from talking about important issues while the fabric of the society is being changed. He warned that we cant fall for this trick.
What, after all, is the point of a National Prayer Breakfast, devoted to drawing people closer to God, if the core issue now dividing us is whether we are indeed a nation under God and whether this means that His Word, as revealed in scripture, is even relevant to our national life and how we conduct our affairs.
This Word has already been banished from our public schools and increasingly from all our public spaces. Now apparently its even off limits at the National Prayer Breakfast.
If anything, Dr. Carson was forgiving to not mention the moral disaster of abortion legal under any circumstances and 55 million murdered unborn children -supported by our president. Nor did he mention our presidents endorsement of same sex marriage and todays collapse of the American family.
The prophet Isaiah admonished, To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to me? says the Lord ..even when you make many prayers I will not hear: your hands are full of blood .cease to do evil, learn to do good
Religious ritual devoid of content is pointless and destructive. This was Isaiahs message 2800 years ago.
This is Dr. Ben Carsons critical message for America today. Certainly nothing to apologize about.
It’s always fun to be lectured by stuffed shirt Cal Thomas.
Maybe we could make it a board game.=, like Trivial Pursuit.
Obama is a coward who will not speak to people that do not worship him. He won’t sit and listen to people who do not worship him. Dr Carson had an opportunity to say something that needed to be said to The Won and he said it. An apology would be inappropriate.
Charles Krauthammer and Cal Thomas are legends in their own minds. They want to be the official spokesmen for the gripes that conservatives have about the destruction of our nation, but they lack vision and courage to suggest a plan of attack against its enemies.
The response to Dr. Carson shows that millions are hungry for leadership in the right direction, not simply content to bemoan the wrong direction that Obama has taken.
> According to Thomas: Our politics have become so polarized and corrupted that a president of the United States cannot even attend an event devoted to drawing people closer to God and bridge partisan and cultural divides without being lectured about his policies
Our politics have become so polarized and corrupted that a citizen cannot speak the truth about a tyrant without being demonized by the media, having the government investigate or threaten his finances, liberty, or even his life. That Obama attends an breakfast prayer event when he clearly despises God and embraces atheism, Islam, and homosexuality is an abomination and blasphemy of the event.
Thomas, sit down and shut up.
Maybe if so called conservative pundits started to show some backbone and spoke out against the commie/socialist takeover of the country, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Another Obama lickspittle has been heard from.
Cal’s breathtakingly stupid comment assumes A: that Obama was really interested in worshipping God at the breakfast and B: that Carson is at fault for all of this polarization.
This may be Thomas’ worst career moment.
Very well stated, my thoughts exactly. Like Cal Thomas said “ if the shoe fits, wear it” I didn’t know Cal was still around.
Every one of these supposedly “conservative”columnists, have been around front and center since I was old enough to vote, and they are still stuck on stupid. The only want to get along and could care less about anything else. Just look what they did to Andrew Breitbart, because he dared to tell the truth. that should tell you all you need to know about these appeasers to Marxism. The main goal is to keep the game going as long as possible, without any regards for truth, right and wrong, or We the People.
Where's our old Cal??
an abomination and blasphemy of the event...
You nailed it. Thank you for verbalizing for me.
If Cal Thomas actually said such an asinine thing, then I’m embarrassed on his behalf.
I am not a big fan of Fox anymore (would rather watch Duck Dynasty) but I happened by Hannity and Dr Ben Carson was on , I stayed until he was over (1 hour) and it made my night, the Dr. is well worth listening to as far as I can tell. I thought he was right on and we need more like him in DC .
No apology necessary to a man who is intentionally destroying our nation.
It seems that Mr. Thomas hasn’t heard about the way Conservatives are being treated by the three branches of government; Mr. Harry Reid, President Obama, and the Mainstream Press.
Civil discourse is out the window when Progressives prance about like special creatures with long noses who look down upon those who disagree with them.
In the face of such toxicity it is refreshing to see and hear an accomplished man like the good doctor make reference to The Creator and His written word.
The question is, since when is it an affront or an insult to cite Scripture, of all places, at a prayer breakfast?
It’s only an affront when the hearers cringe just as a vampire does, in horror fastasies, at the sight of a crucifix.
Can't take the heat? Get out of the kitchen!
If what Carson (or any OTHER free citizen of this country) has to say rankles, then "O" only has to say so and (if he's able) make a denial or challenge. It's the bully pulpit and if ‘O’ doesn't recognize or comprehend how to use power (except to weigh in on BS celebrity arguments) then he shouldn't be ‘President’!!
What happened to Cal Thomas? Another wolf in sheep clothing?
We’ve seen this before where aging conservatives go mushy-headed for a variety of reasons. Other evidence includes doing a regular column with lib pol Bob Beckel in USA Today. He can still turn the occasional phrase and have some insights that remind us of the old firebrand.
It is amusing that when a real conservative citizen stands up and speaks out that the paid pundits, so insecure in their own conservatism, need to bring him down. They did the same to Sarah Palin and others. They need to shut up.
“Maybe if so called conservative pundits started to show some backbone and spoke out against the commie/socialist takeover of the country, we wouldnt be in this mess.”
From the founding of the nation to the late 1960’s the US had a vigorous and independent press acting as a check on government. From the 1970’s to today, independent local newspapers have been gobbled up by huge media chains and broadcast media has become dominated by huge media conglomerates. To one degree or another these mega companies are dependent on government for favorable tax treatment, licenses of air spectrum, local broadcast licenses, etc. When a political party is in power that will use regulatory power to drive policy, any company or organization that benefits from the government purse or can be hurt by the IRS and the application of regulatory power is going to act in its best interests.
Cal Thomas and Charles Krauthammer are creatures of big media companies. Their columns in newspapers and appearances in broadcast media last only as long as their employer determines they add value to the company. If they become too strident in opposing the tyranny of government, the company may feel threatened and decide to terminate the employment relationship. Hence, instead of being consistently aggressive and loud spokespeople for liberty they frequently soft pedal ideas, qualify statements, or occasionally take the opportunity to curry favor with big government and the administration.
Since the election of Obama in 2008 Fox News has slowly moderated its “fair and balanced” approach. With the 2012 elections over we see Fox moving center left. Certainly, if Krauthammer, Thomas, Bill Kristol and other pundits desire to continue as Fox contributors they will tailor their comments accordingly. Failing to adapt to change results in loss of job and income as Sarah Palin and Dick Morris have learned.
The aggregation of the press into large media companies dependent on government is something the founding fathers could not have predicted. This aggregation was enabled by technology changes and the invention of the modern corporate structure which occurred long after most of the founders were dead and buried. They expected a free, independent and vocal press to act as a check on the inclination of government to infringe on liberty. Today, media companies, seeking to act in a world in which government scrutiny and control of business operations, must curry favor with the bureaucracy and politicians in power.
With the heavy handed intrusion of government into every dimension of modern life a few spokespeople for conservatism (Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck) have the courage to continue speaking out and the independent resources to truly speak freely. Likely this limited freedom is only temporary, Rush’s age suggests he has only about 10 years left on the air and there is no heir apparent. Before that time is up, if the Democrats regain control of Congress under a Democrat president, it is likely strict rules restricting talk radio and the internet will be enacted. By that time the progressives will have the opportunity to replace at least one conservative Supreme Court justice with one of their own.
My conclusion. Conservative pundits are adapting to the new reality in order to preserve their “status” and incomes in the brave new world. These men and women are not fearless spokespeople with a passion for liberty, they are employees of large corporations. Just as the German press in the 1930’s was silent as Hitler slowly increased his control over the German state, we see the mainstream press in America controlling the news for the benefit of the regime. Even talk radio is slowly being squeezed as we see local stations dropping nationally syndicated conservative talk radio and shifting to music or other formats. The internet is the last bastion for free speech today. The bloggers are today’s equivalent of the local 18th century printer issuing a pamphlet and distributing it on the street. Don’t expect Krauthammer, Thomas, Kristol and other conservative pundits on Fox to risk life, liberty, and their sacred honor opposing the progressive juggernaut.
The American Revolution, the anti-slavery movement, and the civil rights movement began in churches. If you can’t speak Truth to secular Power at a religious event, then where can you? As a “community organizer”, you would think that Comrade Obama would embrace what Dr Carson was doing. If the positions were reversed, you know that Obama would have made a similar speech...and the leftist media would have hailed him as a conquering Hero of the People.
Like your tagline.
As far as I can see (and I have watched Cal Thomas many times and consider myself to be as committed a Christian as he is..), Dr. Carson is a kind of prophet for our times and in a short few days has brought hope to about half the population of this country through his great mind, his great logic, his grasp of the history of the world and his recognition that political correctness is paving the way for the total destruction of America. What is the central core of that PC..SHUTTING PEOPLE UP SO THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONFRONT EVIL IN THEIR SOCIETY. The media should take a contrarian position to all those in power and most especially the President..However, they lick his boots and question nothing..Dr. Carson was led to take that rare opportunity not to criticize the President but to give his learned and earned views of our nation and what is going wrong, educationally, politically and spiritually. He should be applauded for that prophetic moment in exactly the appropriate setting. In my view, it was a moment made possible through the Holy Spirit to inspire people to return to the roots of our founding which established this nation in the first place. Almost everything he spoke about came from the 10 Commandments. Someone in the focus group on Hannity’s SAVING AMERICA program asked Dr. Carson whether he thought the President listened to him and would perhaps change some things because of what he had to say and Dr. Carson replied that he was praying so..So am I. How very great that kind of miracle would be for America.
Cal Thomas is a suck up. I don’t read his articles and it’s going to stay that way.
Heh, just snickered at the thought if Obama and Biden playing Pakleds.
Stopped reading George Will years ago for the same reason I will now stop reading Cal Thomas. They drank the koolaid.
Carson should publicly apologize and stop going on TV doing "victory laps" and proclaiming that reaction to his speech was overwhelmingly positive.
Poor Cal, he's losing touch and, possibly, relevance.
Dr. Carson should not apologize and Mr. Ihomas should take another look at how well the Dr.'s words are being a accepted.
I am not a big fan of Fox anymore...but I happened by Hannity and Dr Ben Carson was on, I stayed until he was over...
Like you, depenzz, I stopped watching Fox some time ago yet I also tuned in. It made my night as well.
“In my view, it was a moment made possible through the Holy Spirit to inspire people...”
Thomas is correct that there is no safe haven from outbreaks of partisan politics.
But this is what the Left has made sure of, that any and all matters are immediately politicized, a strategy that dates all the way back to the early days of the commisar system under Lenin.
It was refreshing to see someone like the good doctor strike first and straight at the core of the leftist agenda.
American politicians are wimps and cry babies, because they actually resent criticism and do all they can to stifle it.
This government needs stiffening up, and I can think of nothing better than what happens in the English Parliament during Prime Minister’s Questions. The Prime Minister is actually challenged face to face in an amazing joust of words. It is not like the SOTU speech and then a separate response. It is face to face - point - counterpoint.
If this president cowers ( and he will cower being the bullywimp that he is ) then majority and minority leaders should take off on each other. Especially in these times when the media will be in for another 4 years of investigative hibernation. PMQ is the antidote for journalistic slothful supineness.
As for the downward trajectory of Fox News, it fears being isolated and boycotted by the White House and the loss of its sources there. Fox is being toyed with by this White House. Only sustained forceful confrontation ( like their Benghazi reporting ) will force the executive branch to respond. Fair and Balanced just isn’t good enough anymore.
About the only Fox program I still watch is Special Report Online, because it allows listener input.
Something like Prime Minister’s Questions is the only thing I can think of that would get this nation out of its entrenched encampments where half the country ignores Fox and the other half ignores the fascist left media.
HOORAY Star Parker! HOORAY Ben Carson! HOORAY FReepers!
My vote is for Dr. Carson it’s about time some had the courage to speak the truth.
If O,Bama and Thomas don’t like it ,,,,, Tough Darts.
If only Dr. Carson had the platform to express his original ideas to change health care BEFORE the democrats put their stamp of socialism on the issue. With that in mind, where else can good ideas be heard and responded to? Seems not on Capitol Hill. Sometimes the media has to be forced to cover better ideas. Otherwise, all we see it what the dems want us to know.
Pray faithfully for Dr. Ben Carson.
I see IRS audits in his future.
Quick, someone tell me when this President has EVER been lectured by ANYONE. I never see that happen...ever. When Ben Carson gave his speech, that's my very first recollection of anything even remotely resembling a lecture to our current President. Cal Thomas is WAY off in his assessment.
Where are the OTHER Dr. Carson’s??? We are going to need a lot more of them...we need problem solvers in Congress, NOT lawyers.
Words fail me. Thank you for the link.
Used to think Cal Thomas would not be one to go all wobbly, but when I saw him on FoxNews about three years ago, within a single appearance, when Palin was under a totally outlandish attack via a media smear, he reacted twice to her name with a facial expression of disgust, and took the side of the lying media! And then in the very same program, on another topic, went on to praise to the hilt some ridiculous big-government program/issue that Bush pushed through.
After that appearance, I pretty much wrote him off, ignoring anything and everything he had to say ever since.
Dr. Carson brought up how lawyers are taught “to win” - so we ought to disqualify a nominee if they have ONLY been a lawyer or a politician...we need more hard working, honest and private enterprise nominees, just as we need a new breed of journalists who actually do background and investigative work, not opinion driven news!
Personally, I think media pundits like Cal Thomas utterly resent the notion that someone like Dr. Carson with no background in politics or journalism can stand up and do a more effective job of communicating his views in 25 minutes than they’ve been able to do in their careers over the course of many decades.
Cal Thomas was wrong. However that is no reason for me to suddenly bash him and neither should you. After all he has the right to his opinion
Of course he had the right to say what he did and I am glad he did. On the other side Cal Thomas has the right to his opinion and that is no reason to suddenly start bashing him
> Cal Thomas was wrong. However that is no reason for me to suddenly bash him and neither should you. After all he has the right to his opinion
Thomas wasn’t standing up for anyone out of the goodness of his heart. He was buying favoritism and grandstanding which I consider deplorable traits in context of the whole situation and his intent. Calling someone out for what they are is not bashing. PC’ers refer to it as bashing. I certainly don’t. Right is right; wrong is wrong.
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