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Limp Wristing Glock Pistols (Video)
MAC - YouTube.com ^ | 2-18-2013 | Sturmgewehre

Posted on 02/18/2013 5:51:59 AM PST by servo1969

People misunderstand what limping wristing is, what causes limp wristing failures and how such failures can be avoided. The most common pistol for limp wrist failures is the Glock 9mm series. I talk about what causes limp wristing and how to effectively deal with it.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; glock; limp; wristing

1 posted on 02/18/2013 5:52:09 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969
My wife sometimes has a problem limp-wristing her Kimber Pro Carry 1911 in 9mm, causing stovepipes.

She has at least learned what's causing the problem and how to correct for it. One she steadies up her grip, she can shoot magazine after magazine with no further problems.

2 posted on 02/18/2013 6:01:59 AM PST by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: servo1969

Thank you for posting. Good information to be aware of.


3 posted on 02/18/2013 6:03:29 AM PST by MNGal
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To: servo1969

I hear about this, but have never actually seen it. Never had a problem with my Glocks or other pistols.


4 posted on 02/18/2013 6:04:40 AM PST by umgud
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To: servo1969

Good video. I have experienced this with my G19. But quickly learned the reason and corrected it.


5 posted on 02/18/2013 6:06:56 AM PST by Obadiah (We must commit to remove every Senate Blue-dog Democrat from office in 2014!)
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To: servo1969

does this mean Glocks are homophobic guns?


6 posted on 02/18/2013 6:13:32 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: servo1969
Thanks for posting. I am going to share with my teen daughters. They occasionally limp wrist and have stovepipes/malfunctions. Then dad has a talk about limp wristing and reviews grips with them. That is met with an, "Aaaaahhhh Dad ... Look, its not me" where they cycle several rounds without error.

The video gave me an idea. I am going to have them practice intentional limp wristing with the goal of causing malfunctions, so they know what it feels like.

7 posted on 02/18/2013 6:16:36 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

#6

Only if someone tries to suck on the barrel.

/hey-oh


8 posted on 02/18/2013 6:18:41 AM PST by servo1969
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To: C. Edmund Wright

At first I thought this was about gays actually using guns and then I realized gays won’t go anywhere near guns like their liberal friends


9 posted on 02/18/2013 6:19:30 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: servo1969

Thanks for the video ! It helps explain the phenonomen to my wife, who fires the G22 and the M&P 3.8 in 9.

The glocks always seem to give her issues. She gets frustrated by it, but tends to blame the gun. I can see both sides to this.

I have a G22 (Full size slide) with a grip-chopped frame (Down to G27 dimensions). It’s broken in quite abit, and it operates very well - But yeah, you gotta hang on to that sucker for effective results.


10 posted on 02/18/2013 6:24:18 AM PST by Celerity
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To: servo1969

I’ve never owned a Glock, so I have no first hand experience...and I suppose this could be a problem with any of the lightweight carry pistols out there....but this seems like a big red flag.

I’ve seen it happen to people on the range...again I don’t know if its because more people own Glocks...or because they are more likely to jam.

I understand its an operator error thing...but in a world with lots of choices for high quality pistols, one almost searches out a differentiating factor...and this seems to be one. I wonder if the people at Glock are trying to make this less likely - hotter ammo? Weaker Spring? Grip extension?


11 posted on 02/18/2013 6:30:32 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: servo1969

Nice to know. Thx for posting.


12 posted on 02/18/2013 6:32:01 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: servo1969

Excellent video. I can induce this very easily with my subcompact Kel-Tec .380, but never in my steel framed CZ82. His explanation for why (or why not) is very good.


13 posted on 02/18/2013 6:32:41 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: umgud

Apparently you aren’t a limp wrist.


14 posted on 02/18/2013 6:35:05 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

That’s why they aren’t breach loading.


15 posted on 02/18/2013 6:36:39 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

IIRC, fixed-barrel pistols such as the CZ82 are more resistant to that problem.


16 posted on 02/18/2013 6:41:21 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: lacrew

You can use for example a Glock 19. The proportions are ideal for a female but they do like to jump around. Most shooters would be better served by canting/angling the elbows out some so the muzzle doesn’t pop up so much causing wrist deflection. That allows more force straight down the arms taking limp wristing out of the mix.


17 posted on 02/18/2013 6:42:47 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: servo1969

Thanks for posting. I have a keltec 32 which fails to extract. The casing gets pulled about halfway out. I’ve been wondering if this is the cause.


18 posted on 02/18/2013 6:56:18 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: servo1969

Good post. I am having a lot of trouble with malfunctions with my Springfield 1911 high cap .45. Don’t think it is a limp wristing issue. But am looking for a new gun— high cap. Any recommendations? This is not for carry, so I want a full sized pistol with the least potential malfunctions.


19 posted on 02/18/2013 6:57:10 AM PST by grumpa
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To: servo1969

The Kel-Tec PF9 is prone to this. You really have to hold on to it.


20 posted on 02/18/2013 6:59:18 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: servo1969

Ping for later


21 posted on 02/18/2013 7:05:48 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Took nra cw class last week. 380 did not jam once.
problem solved.


22 posted on 02/18/2013 7:12:31 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: grumpa
Probably will get plenty of choices mentioned here, but a guy at the range where I shoot likes his Ruger SR40, (I think it's 15+1).

Anyway, just tossing it out there for your perusal. ;)

23 posted on 02/18/2013 7:13:14 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: USMCPOP

Keltec 380 too


24 posted on 02/18/2013 7:13:36 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Excellent! If you don’t mind me asking, which .380 do you have?


25 posted on 02/18/2013 7:16:15 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Whoops. I think I see yer answer in # 24. Thanks!


26 posted on 02/18/2013 7:17:21 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: grumpa
But am looking for a new gun— high cap. Any recommendations? This is not for carry, so I want a full sized pistol with the least potential malfunctions.

If you want "high cap" it sounds like a full sized 9mm is in your future. You'd be hard pressed to have any malfunctions or even limp wristing issues with the following:

Beretta M9/92FS/92A1
SIG P226/228
Browning High Power
CZ-75 or P-01
S&W Third Gen autos
Ruger P90 series

All of the above have a nice amount of weight that mitigates the main cause behind the limp wristing phenomenon.

There are also polymer framed pistols, primarily hammer fired ones from Beretta, HK, FNH, CZ and SIG that aren't prone to the phenomenon either.
27 posted on 02/18/2013 7:27:07 AM PST by Goldsborough
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To: Donnafrflorida

My kids shoot hundreds of rounds per week. (Well, not so much recently, due to ammo shortages. We mostly shoot .22lr these days with some 9mm, .380 and .45) They shoot rather well, especially my youngest daughter, but they have occasional malfunctions and do not necessarily attribute it to their own practices. This is simply a matter of education; recognizing cause and effect.


28 posted on 02/18/2013 7:29:19 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: servo1969
This is a fairly common problem for new shooters, especially, it seems, the ladies. I just tell them to grip it like they own it, like they are its master; that usually works.

Once you get the feel of it, the problem usually goes away pretty quickly.

29 posted on 02/18/2013 7:32:43 AM PST by Kenton
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To: RoosterRedux

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limp_wristingedia has a good explantion of limp wristing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limp_wristing

I have been shooting for 50 years, qualified expert on .45 and M16 and I learned something today. I don’t think I have ever had this problem but then most of the guns I have shot are heavier frame.

I know a lot of people, including police officers who love their Glocks. They shoot well on the range but I just don’t care for them much. OTOH I love my Taurus 809 and a lot of people wouldn’t buy Taurus.


30 posted on 02/18/2013 7:33:14 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Keltec


31 posted on 02/18/2013 7:34:07 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: servo1969

I have found that my G19 has so little felt recoil, especially with an after-market spring, that I get too relaxed while shooting it. The result is that I can get limp wrist jams. I have to force myself to grip it more firmly than is required for the recoil.


32 posted on 02/18/2013 7:40:19 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: grumpa

“I want a full sized pistol with the least potential malfunctions.”

My SA XD-45 does not malfunction. And it has 13 rd mags. Many ways better than a Glock, in my not so humble opinion. And it is smooth to shoot. Ammo preference for it is Fed Hydra-Shok 230 gr.


33 posted on 02/18/2013 7:47:52 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: dblshot
I've got a new Glock 26 and love it. But I had never heard of limp-wristing and the problems it can cause.

I don't think this would ever be a problem for me...but it is nice to know just in case of having to fire with an injured arm or from a bad position that might cause limp-wristing.

It is also nice to know since I have recommended Glocks to women friends.

34 posted on 02/18/2013 7:48:10 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: grumpa

Any modern design like the Sig, Beretta, Springfield XD, or Glock is far superior to the obsolete 1911 Jammamatic.

(Flame Away)

Modern designs have the feed ram integral to the barrel, and have coil spring extractors. The 1911 design must be modified to be accurate and feed reliably with hollowpoints.

You Springfield may have one or some of these mods. The Sig and Beretta have traditional DA/SA triggers. For the newer striker-fired pistols, the Springfield XD has a better trigger release than the Glock, IMHO


35 posted on 02/18/2013 7:53:30 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: servo1969
I just started shooting 3 months ago preparing for my CCW permit. My problem isn't holding the gun too loose but too tight. ( I have a Bersa Thunder CC and a Ruger LCR .357)

I really like these videos on this channel, BTW. Very informative.

36 posted on 02/18/2013 7:57:05 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: servo1969

Good Post


37 posted on 02/18/2013 8:08:10 AM PST by TYVets
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To: driftdiver

I have a PMR 30 which has a rep for FTE and FTF. You do have to keep a really firm grip and get the gun out in front and push it a little when firing.


38 posted on 02/18/2013 8:41:14 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: servo1969

For over twenty years now, I’ve seen this happen during qualification with the Glock 17, and it usually happens when firing the required “Weak Hand” (left for me) strings. When shooters aren’t using their dominate hand, they frequently tend to grip the Glock loosely resulting in a malfunction.

This tendency to malfunction is one of the many reasons I dislike Glock pistols, but the main reason I dislike Glock pistols is their complete lack of a safety feature. In my opinion, carrying a Glock is the same as carrying a Model 1911 Colt with a round in the chamber, cocked, unlocked and the grip safety taped down. In this condition, both pistols will fire when 5+- pounds of pressure is applied to the trigger. No sane person would carry a 1911 in this condition, but no one seems to mind carrying a Glock in that condition. IMHO Glocks are an Accidental Discharge just waiting to happen.

I’m sure a book could be filled with the total number of accidental discharges that have occurred with Glocks in just the last twenty years. I know I could fill several pages with just the ADs I’ve witnessed or heard of in the last twenty years.


39 posted on 02/18/2013 8:46:03 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: servo1969

Most people would be better off shooting revolvers.


40 posted on 02/18/2013 8:48:56 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: grobdriver
I made the mistake of getting married back in 1980.

The second mistake was my decision to get my new wife familiar with my Walther PPK/S in .380 ACP that I acquired somewhere around 1970.

I figured it was safe (thumb safety, loaded cylinder indicator, decocker, double action, etc). 8 round magazine of popgun with not a lot of recoil.

I was wrong. She could not reliably rack the slide and when she did manage to do that, she ALWAYS limp-wristed it.

Wound up getting her a S&W K-frame revolver in .357, which I kept loaded with .38.

She sort of was able to work that, but never got over putting too much finger on the trigger.

Gave up on both projects (the wife and the handgun for the wife) in 2006.

The good news is that I still have both handguns.

41 posted on 02/18/2013 9:52:50 AM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: jsanders2001

The Pink Pistols are a gay gun rights organization in the United States and Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols


42 posted on 02/21/2013 3:15:21 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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