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Universal background checks are focus of Minnesota gun debate
startribune.com ^ | February 21, 2013 | JIM RAGSDALE

Posted on 02/21/2013 8:53:28 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

A move to require background checks for nearly all gun transactions attracted a big crowd and strong emotions at the Legislature on Thursday.

“This is the public safety issue of the legislative session,” said Dennis Flaherty, representing state police officers and speaking in favor of the proposal.

“A lot of folks just don’t want their firearms tracked, taxed or taken,” said Chris Rager of the National Rifle Association, leading the charge against the bill. ....

Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak, also arguing for the expanded checks, said the current system is akin to boarding a flight in which 40 percent of the passengers are not required to go through security. “Wouldn’t that make you less likely to fly?” he said.

Two gun-violence victims — Samuel Rahamim, whose father died in the Accent Sign­age shootings in Minneapolis last September, and Mary Streufert, whose daughter was killed in 1991 — urged the committee to take action.

“Minnesota gun victims deserve a vote on these bills,” Streufert said.

The NRA’s Rager questioned the 40 percent number, saying the actual number of non-checked sales is much smaller. He accused Champion of essentially “banning private sales” by requiring that the two parties go through a licensed gun dealer and pay a fee for the background checks. He said it already is illegal for someone to sell weapons for profit without a license, adding, “There is no gun-show loophole.”

One new wrinkle in the debate is that some gun-rights supporters find themselves on the same side as mental health advocates. The bill contains language that would allow officers to deny permits to a larger number of people who have struggled with mental illness — not just those who have been committed in a court proceeding.

Would veterans be affected?

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TOPICS: US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/21/2013 8:53:35 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

California’s state Senate Democrats roll out big gun control package

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_22544460/californias-state-senate-democrats-roll-out-big-gun

“...and consider taking the state’s 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.”

So much for all those reassurances that ‘registration will not lead to confiscation’.

Why is the SERIAL NUMBER and MODEL NUMBER needed for a background check? It seems to me that you should ONLY check the person and be done with it. Nothing is gained with serial and model numbers, UNLESS someone is trying to build up a database for later confiscation.(which our government denies they want to do)


2 posted on 02/21/2013 8:55:51 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

When you are frightened and feel powerless against the evils that life brings, it always feels better to do something, even if by doing something you are not helping to alleviate the problem about which you are so frightened.

I don’t mind the useless actions.

I do mind when the actions cause more harm to the freedoms we all enjoy, just so one can feel that they turned on a light so the boogey man could not get them.


3 posted on 02/21/2013 8:58:48 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sounds to me like an awful lot of important politicians want—and richly deserve—to be fired from their cushy jobs.


4 posted on 02/21/2013 8:59:19 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: Tailgunner Joe

liberalism is a mental disorder. Deny guns to liberals so they cant kill home invaders!!!


5 posted on 02/21/2013 9:07:30 PM PST by willardwx
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And the strange irony is that the only person in the US who hasn't undergone a universal background check is Barack Obama.
6 posted on 02/21/2013 9:18:35 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And just how, pray tell, will any of this garbage do ANYTHING to prevent the bad guys from doing what they do? None of it will. None of these radical left wing extemist liberal demokkkrat scumbags can tell us how it will prevent anything. But, the “did something”. What a load of crap. Keep the pressure on the politicians.

Molon labe.


7 posted on 02/21/2013 9:18:47 PM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Have no doubt this is being coordinated from Washington DC


8 posted on 02/21/2013 9:23:16 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The "Gunshow Loophole" lie exposed.

The same "airline security" analogy is constantly recycled.
9 posted on 02/21/2013 10:20:11 PM PST by BattleFlag (The right to self defense, one without which none others matter)
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Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak, also arguing for the expanded checks, said the current system is akin to boarding a flight in which 40 percent of the passengers are not required to go through security. “Wouldn’t that make you less likely to fly?” he said.

No, it'd give me hope that freedom isn't dead and wondering what could be done to help the poor schlubs in the 60%.

10 posted on 02/21/2013 11:12:37 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Besides, if a policy not only makes me more free, BUT keeps me from having to fly in the same airplane as bedwetting pantywaist hoplophobes, where do I sign???


11 posted on 02/21/2013 11:17:29 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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