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A year later, Trayvon Martin case murkier than ever
Chicago Tribune ^ | 22 Feb 2013 | Eric Zorn

Posted on 02/22/2013 6:37:22 AM PST by rellimpank

The simple story — cops yawn when burly white vigilante stalks and kills unarmed African-American child for the "crime" of walking while black — shocked the conscience of much of the nation a year ago and touched off an explosion of indignant demagoguery.

Trayvon Martin, 17, was walking through a Sanford, Fla., subdivision early on the evening of Feb. 26, 2012, headed from a convenience store to the home where he was staying with his father. Off-duty neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, 28, was driving to the grocery store when he saw Martin and called police to report that an unfamiliar teen was behaving suspiciously.

Zimmerman got out of his car and, nearly six minutes later, roughly 200 feet away, shot and killed Martin at close range with one bullet to the chest.

On one side were those who believed the story illustrated the evils of racism and firearms as well as the deference law enforcement affords white people.

On the other side were those who believed that Zimmerman, whose mother is Hispanic, acted in self defense, and that his arrest a month and a half after the incident in the face of mounting public pressure illustrated the perils of mob rule.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba; saintskitles; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman

1 posted on 02/22/2013 6:37:26 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

This article is barely worthy of comment. What a piece of crap.


2 posted on 02/22/2013 6:39:50 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

... and next time I won’t fly off after reading the excerpted part only.


3 posted on 02/22/2013 6:42:36 AM PST by skeeter
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To: rellimpank

He wasn’t walking home. He was casing the neighborhood for another robbery. Zimmerman was right to be suspicious.


4 posted on 02/22/2013 6:42:36 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: skeeter

You’re absolutely right, Skeeter. This article is indeed a piece of crap as is the lying, stinking media that attempted to try Zimmerman for this non-crime. The criminal is dead! There should have been no case against him for defending himself against an out-of-control bullying African.

Barky was right about one thing, however. Tray-Von could have been his son.


5 posted on 02/22/2013 6:45:27 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: rellimpank

photographs of Zimmerman show that “child” went all postal on the skull of that “burly white vigilante”


6 posted on 02/22/2013 6:46:32 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: rellimpank
Off-duty neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman

What does that even mean? The implication (I think) if that Zimmerman had no business watching out for trouble because he was "off-duty" from his neighborhood watch effort. What crap.

7 posted on 02/22/2013 6:49:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: rellimpank; skeeter; Timber Rattler; IbJensen
And today we see Sanford PD hosting an anniversary gun buyback with freebies for each gun turned in...

Coinkidinky?

8 posted on 02/22/2013 6:49:39 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: IbJensen
I'm guessing this writer was one of those who was screaming for blood after the incident and has taken a closer look at the evidence.

He still gives the Justice for Travon side too much credibility - my understanding is everything that Zimmerman claims has checked out.

9 posted on 02/22/2013 6:51:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: rellimpank
I believe that the early reportage and commentary on the case was inflammatory and irresponsible — particularly, I should say, from my friends on the political left, who seemed to want to turn Martin into Emmett Till by suggesting that Zimmerman was about to get away with having hunted him down like a dog. On the right, advocates for Zimmerman made unsparing efforts to portray Martin as little more than a thug who got what he asked for.

A Chicago newsrag allowing both sides of the Crime of the Century to be considered? Wonders never cease!

11 posted on 02/22/2013 6:55:44 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: skeeter

No, he wasn’t. Go back and read some of his earlier columns on the case.


12 posted on 02/22/2013 7:00:36 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: rellimpank

Eric Zorn is a reliably left-leaning weenie of an editorialist with his head so far up his anal orifice that he probably can’t remember when he last saw genuine sunlight.

Years back when I would occasionally pay real money to check out the Trib sports page I could pretty much be sure that if I scoped out Zorn’s column it would leave me nauseous - and he never disappointed.


13 posted on 02/22/2013 7:01:27 AM PST by Stosh
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To: skeeter

The article is basically, “crap,ok ok, we were wrong but...ummm, ugghhhh, Zimmerman might have lied about one small detail so lets try him anyway.”


14 posted on 02/22/2013 7:01:38 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: rellimpank

The case is not murky at all. The more we know, the more clear it is that it was criminal to arrest Zimmerman and press charges.

The public knows too much. This will not end as badly for the prosecution as the Duke case, but it will end in that spirit.


15 posted on 02/22/2013 7:13:35 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: rellimpank
But rather than preparing to seethe, interested observers ought to take the time to read "Intermediate Range," a 254-page paperback in which first-time author Michael Knox, a former detective with the Jacksonville (Fla.) sheriff's office meticulously details all the known evidence in the case.

Knox, 40, now a private forensic consultant specializing in crime-scene reconstruction, is careful not to take sides as he leads readers moment by moment through that fateful evening. Using police recordings, statements to investigators by witnesses (including several by Zimmerman ) and results of lab tests, Knox shows what we know and, critically, what we don't know, about what led up to what everyone agrees was a senseless loss of life.

Anyone read this book?

16 posted on 02/22/2013 7:17:42 AM PST by iowamark
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To: skeeter
and next time I won’t fly off after reading the excerpted part only.

Don't we all many of us?

17 posted on 02/22/2013 7:21:47 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Stosh

If he is that badly deformed, he is in need of a navelvisualoptomy....replacement of the navel with glass for those whose head is so far up there they need the procedure to see where they are going.


18 posted on 02/22/2013 7:22:02 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: rellimpank

I think he really means “a strategy for convicting Zimmerman is murkier than ever.”


19 posted on 02/22/2013 7:26:14 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: rellimpank

So now Jewish-descended, Hispanic Zimmerman is “WHITE”. I wonder if the CHICAGO newspaper ever focuses on the race of the murderers in its home city.


20 posted on 02/22/2013 7:28:03 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: rellimpank

This is just more Black Racists swill

Its Ok for Black Racists and White Guilt Liberals to ignore all the black shooting black in Chicago..but when someone who isnt Black Racist defends themselves against a Black gangbanger wannabe ....its racist.

Free Zimmerman.


21 posted on 02/22/2013 7:41:22 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: hunosehu

The story that Trayvon Martin was “only” walking home is fiction, and we know this because of the recording of Zimmerman’s 911 telephone call. When you read the transcript of the 911 call, note the elapsed time in comparison to the transcript, and compare that timeline to the Google maps aerial view of the complex; you can see how Trayvon Martin evaded observation, bypassed his residence, and doubled back to confront and attack Zimmerman. There can be no truth to the claim Trayvon Martin was unable to walk home because Zimmerman attacked him, because Trayvon Martin was already at his residence when he returned up the sidewalk to confront Zimmerman.

AS the 911 recording indicates, Trayvon Martin walked directly by Zimmerman’s vehicle, and he proceeded down the street and on to a sidewalk between the buildings that led to the city street on the other side. He then turned to the right and went down the sidewalk paralleling the city street as he passed around the corner of the building and out of Zimmerman’s view. This observed and recorded fact is a problem, because Trayvon obviously did not turn to the right onto the street and sidewalk on the near side of the buildings that led directly to his residence. if Trayvon martin wanted to walk directly home, he would not have bypassed the street and sidewalk leading to it in order to take a more distant route on the outside of the building complex.

Now some people are trying to argue that Trayvon Martin didn’t turn right and go down the street and sidewalk to the front door or rear door of his own residence becausee he was being followed by Zimmerman and did not want to lead Zimerman to his residence. Such an argument makes no sense whatsoever, because Trayvon Martin doubled back past his residence to the place where he attempted to kill or injure Zimmerman.

When Zimmerman left his vehicle to follow Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin passed out of view as he went arond the corner of the building complex. By the time Zimmerman reached that corner of the building complex to where he could look down that city street and sidewalk, Trayvon Martin was already out of view. based upon the time lapse recorded by the 911 call, the only explanation for Zimmerman being unable to see Trayvon Martin from his position on the sidewalk at the corner of the building is that Trayvon Martin had already started to doubleback by either run down the sidewalk to run around the far end of the building complex or had run part way down the sidewalk and ducked out of view as he ran between a gap int he buildings of the complex.

Unable to see Trayvon Martin and following the instructions of the 911 dispatcher, Zimmerman turned around an reeversed his steps to return to his vehicle. As he dis so, immerman was passing by the sidewalk that led down between the lines of buildings in the complex in their rear. This is the same sidewalk that led down to the residence where Trayvon Martin was staying. If Trayvon Martin had wanted to esacape Zimmerman, he had already done so as evidenced by the 911 call. Trayvon Martin was already in the vicinity of his residence, and he could have quite easily entered his residence in complete safety without Zimmerman having any opportunity to observe him doing it. Instead, Trayvon Martin for some reason chose to not enter his residence, and he chose to leave the vicinity of his resdence and come in the opposite direction up the sidewalk to intercept Zimmerman as Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle.

Trayvon Martin appoached Zimmerman from the direction of his residence, which was no behind Trayvon Martin, and he chalenged Zimmerman wanting to know why Zimmerman had been following him a few minutes earlier. This challenge diverted Zimmerman from returning to his vehicle and caused him to meet Trayvon Martin on the sidewalk running behind the lines of the residences n the building complex. It was here that the fatal confrontaion took place.

It is clear from the 911 recording that the only reason Trayvon martin did not enter his residence in safety was because he chose to not do so, and he instead sought to meet with and confront George Zimmerman. The storyline that Zimmerman kept Trayvon Martin from walking home is a complete fairy tale.


22 posted on 02/22/2013 7:44:10 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: rellimpank

Dawn breaks in Chicago. (After a fashion)


23 posted on 02/22/2013 8:02:34 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: skeeter

It’s been interesting following the defense’s efforts to depose Crump. He’s been working hard to dodge them.


24 posted on 02/22/2013 8:05:53 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: IbJensen

Will be fun to watch what happens when Zimmerman gets off.

“Holders people”


25 posted on 02/22/2013 8:11:12 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: WhiskeyX

Zimmerman left his vehicle to follow Zimmerman? (I know, I know. Just couldn’t resist it)


26 posted on 02/22/2013 8:12:01 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: hunosehu

Hello and welcome to FR.
What WhiskeyX says,
plus the kid had been caught in school with B.& E. tools and some jewlery with no logical story of how he came by it.


27 posted on 02/22/2013 8:16:34 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: skeeter
I read the "piece" and several comments, some of which are no longer there. I wrote my own respectful reply, pointing out the tendentiousness of Zorn's writing, from the aside in the first sentence that was clearly intended to color the entire piece against Zimmerman. Other statements Zorn chose to make and others facts he chose to omit make painfully clear what a piece of propaganda this was intended to be!

My comment and at least a couple of others to the on-line article were deleted. That dinosaur media apparently believes First Amendment rights exist for the media, but not for the lowly citizenry.

In the midst of Zorn's claims to present both sides, the truth is quite the opposite!

A pox on Zorn and the Chicago Tribune!

HF

28 posted on 02/22/2013 8:32:35 AM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: holden

Here’s a response the defense made to a similar Washington Post “opinion” piece.

http://gzlegalcase.com/index.php/press-releases/98-a-response-to-jonathan-capehart-s-editorials-in-regards-to-the-zimmerman-case


29 posted on 02/22/2013 8:49:54 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: rellimpank

One video you hardly ever see is how big Trayvon Martin actually was.

Here is the 7-11 video from across the store rather than from above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqLOeuBwJOI


30 posted on 02/22/2013 8:58:42 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: hunosehu
He wasn’t walking home. He was casing the neighborhood for another robbery...

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He may well have been casing the joint, but there is no evidence of that. There is evidence however that he was drinking his cough syurp/alcohol candy brew and smoking a cigar with the middle taken out and replaced with marijuana.

Martin was in a fight club, was caught with stolen jewelery and burglary tools on him. He cold cocked a bus driver. He was mixed up with the crudest of the crude.

Martin deserves to be right where he is, 6 feet under.

Zimmerman was a productive member of society. He did not want to be involved with the neighborhood watch group but got pressed into service from the community residents.

He is a good person who has been maligned from day one. I hope he walks away from all of this after the first hearing on self defense. I also hope he makes millions from CBS and ABC.

Good Luck Zimmernam!

31 posted on 02/22/2013 9:06:08 AM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: rellimpank

How many black kids killed in Chicago in the past year?


32 posted on 02/22/2013 9:13:53 AM PST by GOPJ (To be free is to own one's risk - Jonathan Levy)
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To: JAKraig
Trayvon was standing on the grass in the rain looking into darkened apartments. That's what initially aroused Zimmerman's suspicions. He may not have been casing apartments to rob, but he was sure acting as if that was what he was doing.

If Zimmerman gets off, Eric Holder is sure to come after him on civil charges for depriving Trayvon of his civil rights.

The irony is that Zimmerman himself is partly of African descent--but the media labeled him as "white" because of what they took to be a Jewish surname.

33 posted on 02/22/2013 9:55:56 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: GOPJ

Yeah, but this is a part-white guy defending himself.

The preditor class doesn’t like they prey being armed.


34 posted on 02/22/2013 10:06:01 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Timber Rattler

He was probably only looking for an unlocked bathroom window so he could steal some Robitussin and brew up a batch of “lean”. He already had the other ingredients, the Arizona Watermelon Tea and the Skittles.


36 posted on 02/22/2013 10:38:06 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: All

The defense just lost its motion to depose Crump.


37 posted on 02/22/2013 12:48:52 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: hunosehu
Again, I'm not familiar with the case.

Well... it's good you first acknowledge that.

Welcome to F.R.

Now.... One of the most important requirements for good debate is to become familiar with the facts of concern. FR is a great place to do it.

Most of us have had the experience of the shared information since the beginning of this case.

I suggest you GOOGLE the following: LEAN, SKITTLES, TRAYVON, ZIMMERMAN, and also watch the videos from the 7-11 Store. See the 'crew' that Trayvon met up with at 7-11. See how Trayvon seems to be a bit 'hazy' as he can't find his way out of the store.

Here is a picture of Trayvon purchasing SKITTLES and ARIZONA WATERMELON FLAVORED DRINK, which are two of the three ingredients for LEAN.

Good reading and good luck.

38 posted on 02/22/2013 1:35:11 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: hunosehu

I knew your “born-on date” before I even looked at it.


39 posted on 02/26/2013 3:33:37 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Mr. Zimmerman is blacker than the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Google it.


40 posted on 02/26/2013 3:36:41 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Shucks...well, don’t be surprised to hear the MSM claim Zimmerman followed Trayvon martin and then self-inflicted the beating and wounds to his head.


41 posted on 03/01/2013 10:14:00 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Heh.

Yep, wouldn’t surprise me the tiniest little bit.


42 posted on 03/01/2013 11:02:38 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Graybeard58; skeeter

Sometimes I post without even reading the excerpt. Proudly, I might add.


43 posted on 03/01/2013 11:55:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty; skeeter
Sometimes I post without even reading the excerpt. Proudly, I might add.

A title should be enough for anyone and it's a great time saver.

44 posted on 03/01/2013 1:35:13 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: rellimpank

The lead sentence demonstrates the bias of the author. What could be more blatant?


45 posted on 03/02/2013 7:24:46 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006)
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To: rellimpank

The lead sentence demonstrates the bias of the author. What could be more blatant?


46 posted on 03/02/2013 7:24:53 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006)
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To: iowamark

Thanks for providing the link to the book. I read the free on-line excerpt. That is worth reading in itself. The book should be excellent.


47 posted on 03/02/2013 2:16:06 PM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006)
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