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Senators in Immigration Talks Mull Federal IDs for All Workers
The Wall Street Journal ^ | February 20, 2013, 7:47 p.m. ET | DANNY YADRON

Posted on 02/22/2013 6:47:59 AM PST by haffast

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To: old curmudgeon

“... counterfeiting the ID cards”

Yeah, good luck with that. Secure cards are cryptographically matched to corresponding secure database entries. The info on the card must match the info in the database via a unique, two-part key. No match = card certificate revocation and ‘bad card’ status.

21 posted on 02/22/2013 8:02:31 AM PST by Justa
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To: wny

Unfortunately, we’re talking about the GOP. The Stupid Party. The same party that agreed to the 1982 court decision to never contest Democratic voter fraud ever again.

We’re screwed(again).

22 posted on 02/22/2013 8:03:48 AM PST by princeofdarkness (The GOP is the present version of 1940 France and it will only get worse.)
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To: haffast

Make it double as a voter ID card that must be presented at the voting booth, and the dims will drop the subject.

23 posted on 02/22/2013 8:12:08 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dims are stupid, period. End of conversation.)
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To: T-Bird45; kabar
"making the cards a requirement for voting"

That's the problem. And you have to look at the history.

First it started with the 9-11 commission but congress realized that a national ID was not politically feasible so instead Congress(led by republican James Sensenbrenner) created Real ID and the GOP passed that in 2005. Real ID means that a or all state's driver licenses must comply with Real ID. At first(2005) there was no controversy but by 2007 many libertarian minded dems and pubs had turned against Real ID plus a number of states were opposed for cost reasons. But gradually some states implemented their Real IDs.

Then the GOP figured out that in those states that had implemented Real ID, the Real ID compliant drivers liscense could be used for voter ID. And since the Real ID compliant drivers licsense is hard to get and more costly it could be used to inhibit poor people from voting in 2012.

Because the GOP did this, those dems that had previously supported Real ID turned against it.

Now the GOP is stuck and has to be the party advocating for a national ID.

24 posted on 02/22/2013 8:26:14 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: muawiyah
They track us with our cellphones. Is there some news value in this story?

You can turn your cellphone off or leave it somewhere. You may soon be unable to turn your "ID" off and function in this country.

Corporate America wants the benefit of cheap labor from these immigrants but they don't want to pay the burden of compliance and/or legal sanctions or fines government imposes upon it.

So not only are you to suffer the lowering of your standard of living due to the glut of cheap labor(supply/demand)entering this country, you are to bear the burden for the compliance of the business use of that cheap labor as well.

Add to that a justification and means for the government to be more efficient in their doling out of benefits to the masses that seems reasonable to those masses.

Add to that our worldly masters intention of managing (controlling) the useful eaters and the useless eaters.

A free man doesn't have to ask permission. We are becoming less free. That matters to me.

Immoral/amoral men need laws to prevent chaos. They cry out for a king. One is coming, but not the one they expect.

25 posted on 02/22/2013 8:32:41 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast
worry that such a card would eventually — and perhaps inevitably — be used to “track Americans at airports, hospitals, and through other facets of their lives.”"

Nooooooooooo, that would never happen..../s

Lindsey Graham is a tyrannical moron. He also thinks it is just fine to leave it up to the president or some other official to kill Americans if they have some "association" with al-queida. He seems to enjoy destroying our liberties.
26 posted on 02/22/2013 8:36:49 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Ben Ficklin; kabar

Thanks for that concise summary on how we got where we are on Real ID. I’m personally very leary of any advancement on national ID for most any purpose, no matter high-minded or desirable. My general evaluation of the entire situation is one of a culture, a nation, and a government that is rapidly circling the drain and we’re just along for the ride with little hope of putting the plug back in the drain hole.

27 posted on 02/22/2013 10:33:13 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: haffast; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

28 posted on 02/22/2013 11:32:48 AM PST by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: haffast; Travis McGee; Chode; Squantos
Biometric National ID cards.

...Just another CWII triggering event.

29 posted on 02/22/2013 11:42:36 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: haffast

We already have ID cards to work. They are issued by the Social Security Administration.

30 posted on 02/22/2013 12:24:43 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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you know it's coming...

31 posted on 02/22/2013 2:56:45 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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