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Report: 47 Percent of Detroit Property Owners Pay No Taxes
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Posted on 02/22/2013 8:07:58 AM PST by chessplayer

An estimated 47 percent of Detroit’s property owners pay no taxes, according to recent report from The Detroit News.

n fact, according to The News, delinquency in the shattered city is so bad that that 77 blocks had only one owner who paid taxes in 2012.

Yes, one person paid taxes in an area covering 77 blocks.

Many of the people interviewed by The News said that they don’t understand why they should pay into a system that has failed to provide them with basic public services.

“Why pay taxes?” asked Fred Phillips, who owes more than $2,600 on his home. “Why should I send them taxes when they aren’t supplying services? It

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1 posted on 02/22/2013 8:08:03 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
The people of Detroit should be damn glad they can be armed.

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2 posted on 02/22/2013 8:13:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: chessplayer

I’m sure there are enough evil rich folk in Detroit to carry their dead weight.
harumph!


3 posted on 02/22/2013 8:14:10 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: chessplayer

46%. Very interesting. Where have we heard that figure before?


4 posted on 02/22/2013 8:14:17 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: chessplayer

In other words, a $4,000 tax bill on a $35,000 property is insane and unjust. I wouldn’t pay it either.


5 posted on 02/22/2013 8:15:03 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: chessplayer

America lost its’ War on Poverty and War on Drugs. Now cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price.


6 posted on 02/22/2013 8:16:37 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: chessplayer
“Why should I send them taxes when they aren’t supplying services?"

In Texas, it's because your property will be sold at auction if you don't pay the taxes.

7 posted on 02/22/2013 8:18:46 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: griswold3

Unfortunately, they will just migrate to places that are doing fine, will elect the same type of officials they have in Detroit, and ruin them as well.


8 posted on 02/22/2013 8:19:01 AM PST by MNDude (Guns don't kill people, Democrats kill people)
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To: chessplayer

46% is just another reason why Detroit should not be bailed out.


9 posted on 02/22/2013 8:19:17 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: chessplayer

I think his point is that if he pays $2600 in taxes, $2300 will go directly to pay retired city employees to sit home on their arse.


10 posted on 02/22/2013 8:32:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: chessplayer
In Greece, they made the welfare state bigger and bigger and bigger. And the people -- the people who wanted the bigger welfare state -- decided that the taxes were too onerous, and they just stopped paying. Almost no one pays taxes in Greece. And so Greece went bankrupt and is now in a virtual state of collapse.

Just like Detroit.

Cloward-Piven. This is how its done. Make the system so big it is unsustainable. Then all the rules will be swept off the table, and a Strong Man can arise and tell everyone what to do.

11 posted on 02/22/2013 8:33:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: chessplayer
In other words, everything should be free. Streetlights should be free. Police, firefighters, etc., should work for free.

Feel for the people who stood their ground against 'white flight' and now live in worthless homes in high crime areas...AND have limited city services AND neighbors who won't pay taxes... Michael Moore should be forced to live in the hellhole his ideas helped create...

12 posted on 02/22/2013 8:37:15 AM PST by GOPJ (To be free is to own one's risk - Jonathan Levy)
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To: chessplayer

Why aren’t the Republicans mentioning Detroit every day? If a government refuses to protect you or your property, why pay taxes to them? So they can hire their relatives to a nice government job?


13 posted on 02/22/2013 8:42:14 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I’m not sure alot of buyers would show up to the auction, for some of these Detroit properties.


14 posted on 02/22/2013 8:42:14 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: chessplayer

Heck, I’m surprised there are any houses in Detroit worth $2,600.


15 posted on 02/22/2013 8:44:11 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: chessplayer

wow. That is crazy. The welfare bums don’t even have to pay property taxes?


16 posted on 02/22/2013 8:48:35 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: chessplayer

“Detroit has the highest property taxes among big cities nationwide...”

How’s that working out?


17 posted on 02/22/2013 8:58:11 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Why aren’t the Republicans mentioning Detroit every day?

Because conservatives don't want to hear anything but bashing and that's a surefire loser.

The fact is that things are looking a lot brighter for Detroit than they have in a long time and its because Detroit is increasingly under the control of republican held state government.

Big money buyers are buying up the riverfront for development within easy reach of the new bridge.
18 posted on 02/22/2013 9:01:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: chessplayer

Actually, in Detroit, I suspect the blocks and blocks of properties with tax-delinquent owners are owned by people who just hope that the city will seize the worthless property for back taxes-owed, rather than leaving it on their hands.


19 posted on 02/22/2013 9:14:46 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The_Reader_David

Some of the luckiest people in Detroit are those who will be “forced out of their homes” in Delray through eminent domain.


20 posted on 02/22/2013 9:18:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: blueunicorn6

>Why aren’t the Republicans mentioning Detroit every day?

Very good question. Between the GOP dimbulbs that forced Romney on us and allowed legitimate rape morons to trash the party we are hosed.

It will only get worse until the GOP quits allowing halfwits like akin and the opposite rino rats ruin elections.


21 posted on 02/22/2013 9:19:07 AM PST by soycd
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To: lacrew

They need to start garnishing the wages of those not paying their property taxes, and they should start with all government employees since those names will be the easiest to cross check against the tax rolls.


22 posted on 02/22/2013 9:33:05 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m surprised that they haven’t started a discussion of a tri-county (suburban) income tax to supplement public services in Detroit....


23 posted on 02/22/2013 9:33:42 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: fwdude

Interesting how that 47% FREELOADING percentage keeps coming up, over and over again.


24 posted on 02/22/2013 9:37:13 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cripplecreek

Why does the Governor have to save Detroit? He isn’t doing anyone any good. Some people have to learn the hard way. That’s just their learning style. You can lecture and lecture the people of Detroit, but they won’t listen. They evidently have to learn the hard way. My mother in law is a nice person. She keeps putting out the “fires” my step daughter starts because of her poor decisions. I gave up being a fire fighter for her. The problem with people who keep starting “fires” in their lives is that those fires can burn up some other people. The fire starters don’t care. They don’t like the pain from being burned, though. That’s how they learn. The people of Detroit have to get a few burns and maybe they’ll wise up. The Governor needs to stay away.


25 posted on 02/22/2013 9:37:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: soycd

Yes, it is manifestly clear that Akin caused Detroit’s problems.


26 posted on 02/22/2013 9:40:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: chessplayer

47%?? Romney is a racist bigot after all!


27 posted on 02/22/2013 9:44:06 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: blueunicorn6

Detroit drags the state down so its in our best interest for Detroit to come back. Fortunately the usual Detroit wrecking crew won’t get a blank check and real results are expected.


28 posted on 02/22/2013 9:44:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: csmusaret

-—— Now cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price.——

The problem is obsolescence. Detroit especially and Chicago less so are just plain obsolete. The reason for their being may exist but the reason for their growth no longer exists.


29 posted on 02/22/2013 9:46:21 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: csmusaret
America lost its’ War on Poverty and War on Drugs. Now cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price.

More precisely: cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price for America having even waged the inherently unwinnable War on Poverty and War on Drugs - which fostered dependency (WoP), and hyperinflated drug profits and channeled those profits into criminal hands (WoD).

30 posted on 02/22/2013 9:56:12 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: cripplecreek

“Enablers”.....that’s the word I was looking for. What are the OPPORTUNITY COSTS of saving Detroit? Every dollar that goes to Detroit is a dollar that could be spent somewhere else. Are things so good in Michigan that they can burn money there? At the risk of being called a racist, and because I can’t think of another good story right now to use as an example, what if Detroit is just a “Tar Baby” for the Republican Governor? What if the Democrats are just laughing looking at him wrestle with something useless?


31 posted on 02/22/2013 10:02:08 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

The things that are being done in Detroit are good for Michigan as the primary goal. The good done for Detroit is purely secondary.

The simple fact is that Detroit is an ideal business location and no matter how much of a mess the city is, the location is ideal. Its the second busiest freight crossing on the continent and nothing will change that.

Republican control means republican control of the money which means results rather than waste. Its already attracting business.

Apparently when you asked where the republicans are, you just want some bashing. Well good luck with all that.


32 posted on 02/22/2013 10:14:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think the current “Strong Man” underestimated the resolve of his opponents.


33 posted on 02/22/2013 10:17:06 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: chessplayer
I don't claim to be a Detroiter, I do know the city very well. It's absolutely ruins. Ruins unlike the scale ever seen in the history of humanity. To call the City of Detroit dis-functional is a vast understatement. It is dieing proof of where we are heading as a country. Visible proof of how our country is in it's 80th or 90th straight quarters of manufacturing/industrial decline. These industries are the source of all wealth in America. Our country's future is grim.
34 posted on 02/22/2013 10:25:29 AM PST by 3clean
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To: blueunicorn6

It was meant to cover the general GOP failure to defeat democrat scum. Detroit is the result of the GOP losing to democrat filth.


35 posted on 02/22/2013 10:41:08 AM PST by soycd
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To: chessplayer

100% of Detroit freeloaders at public housing don’t pay taxes either. So why should others?


36 posted on 02/22/2013 10:42:44 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

In the war of Left verses right these cities are the first ones that the left claimed victory.


37 posted on 02/22/2013 10:45:32 AM PST by Captain PJ (Are we there yet?)
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To: cripplecreek

I apologize if I bashed you. I didn’t mean to. There are so many things wrong with Detroit. When I look at OPPORTUNITY COSTS and THE LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS, I just don’t see good things ahead for Detroit. I hope that the Republicans can save Detroit, and receive the credit for it, but I don’t think that will happen.


38 posted on 02/22/2013 10:45:49 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Soon, Chicago will look just like Detroit. Who would want to own property in Detroit if the value depletes to the point it isn’t worth owning?


39 posted on 02/22/2013 10:48:54 AM PST by Progov
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

“In other words, a $4,000 tax bill on a $35,000 property is insane and unjust. I wouldn’t pay it either.”

Yeah, for all those who trash California, thanks to Proposition 13, we pay something like $6,000 on a home worth $1,5 million and we get all the services for which we pay! Someone in Detroit should start asking the City Council where all the money goes ( probably into their pockets )! Property taxes should be used to pay for only those things that are directly related to the property itself. If that were policy, the value of the home would not be the major factor in determining the actual tax to be paid. And get the schools off of the property tax,


40 posted on 02/22/2013 11:07:28 AM PST by vette6387
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To: chessplayer; All
OK....What did Romeny know about this, and when did he know it....:-)...

Go over to the FR banned Detroit News and the Free Press to see the stories and results of the Governor's Commission to look into Detroit and how messed up it is.

14.9 Billion in Debt.

Most of it Pensions, it is GM all over again, and a pre-cursor to Fedzilla's Collapse of it's Legacy Entitlements.

Emergency Manager or Bankruptcy soon for Detroit, it will not go over well...

41 posted on 02/22/2013 11:14:37 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: vette6387

Politicians think of Government (Local, State and Federal) as a jobs program for their constituents. Philadelphia, for instance, has half the population of 40 yrs ago, but 5 times the amount of Gov’t workers.

Worry not though, because you can’t have your cake and eat it too and the day of reckoning is coming.


42 posted on 02/22/2013 11:22:15 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: cripplecreek
The fact is that things are looking a lot brighter for Detroit than they have in a long time and its because Detroit is increasingly under the control of republican held state government. Big money buyers are buying up the riverfront for development within easy reach of the new bridge.

Think out of the box CC....

What if...

The "Antrim" Shale Formation is not just out by Jackson and is all SE Michigan like some maps I have seen show it.

What if their is gobs of Natural Gas under Detwaa? Long story about a friend of a friend who is out at Bakken in regards to this thought..


43 posted on 02/22/2013 11:32:40 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: chessplayer

Detroit is a city where property is so overvalued it ain’t worth much - and it doesn’t bring in tax revenue.

I keep having to find reasons to like Detroit.


44 posted on 02/22/2013 11:47:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Captain PJ
America lost its’ War on Poverty and War on Drugs. Now cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price.

More precisely: cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price for America having even waged the inherently unwinnable War on Poverty and War on Drugs - which fostered dependency (WoP), and hyperinflated drug profits and channeled those profits into criminal hands (WoD).

In the war of Left verses right these cities are the first ones that the left claimed victory.

Could be. I'm not sure how that relates to the discussion.

45 posted on 02/22/2013 11:50:44 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: taildragger
We know the antrim formation contains gas and oil under all of lower Michigan. Now we need to lift that idiotic and pointless great lakes directional drilling ban. There is definitely some oil under Detroit in fact every single county in lower Michigan has wells.

A Canadian company bought and reopened the salt mine and the state legislature has changed the tax structure of mining operations to make it easier to operate.

I was watching a video of Rick Snyder at the Detroit chamber of commerce and they were saying some very interesting things about what they would like to do. Basically what these big corporate heads were saying was "Give us a favorable business environment, and we'll rebuild Detroit."

People need to understand that Detroit is in a unique and near perfect spot for business. Its in the heart of industrial America with infrastructure designed for heavy industry with the heart of Canadian industry right across the river. Its the second busiest freight crossing on the continent.

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Big business is not blind to the growth of upper midwest mining, the confluence of freight transportation arteries, and attractive business partners across the river. Now that the second bridge will be built, shippers are already celebrating the fact that the bottleneck will be eased.
46 posted on 02/22/2013 12:01:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
“More precisely: cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price for America having even waged the inherently unwinnable War on Poverty and War on Drugs - which fostered dependency (WoP), and hyperinflated drug profits and channeled those profits into criminal hands (WoD).”

Bull$hit! Make drugs legal and the dysfunctional idiots in Detoilet will find something else to kill each-other over.

Most are illiterates with no skills or education. They will either sell drugs to buy sneakers, rims, and gold teeth, or will steal from you to buy them.

47 posted on 02/22/2013 12:15:31 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
More precisely: cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price for America having even waged the inherently unwinnable War on Poverty and War on Drugs - which fostered dependency (WoP), and hyperinflated drug profits and channeled those profits into criminal hands (WoD).

Bull$hit! Make drugs legal and the dysfunctional idiots in Detoilet will find something else to kill each-other over.

Show me where I said legalization would end killing. What it will end is the hyperinflation of drug profits and channeling of those profits into criminal hands. I support taking resources away from criminals - maybe you feel differently.

48 posted on 02/22/2013 12:19:32 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: taildragger
“Most of it Pensions, it is GM all over again, and a pre-cursor to Fedzilla’s Collapse of it's Legacy Entitlements.”

The worst part of that is the state is on the hook for 100% of those pensions per the state constitution. Bankruptcy won't ever get rid of the debt. And that goes for all public sector pensions!

49 posted on 02/22/2013 12:26:10 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

All making drugs legal is make them legal.

Every single dime in the criminals pockets will still be there along with all the crime. They will just do something else to get money without working.

Legal drugs solves nothing and would likely just cost taxpayers more.


50 posted on 02/22/2013 12:38:40 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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