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Obama Administration Moves Forward on Climate Change Without Congress -Forthcoming regulation
U.S. News ^ | 2/22/13 | Rebekah Metzler

Posted on 02/22/2013 9:12:42 AM PST by Nachum

President Barack Obama is tired of waiting for Congress to move on legislation to reduce carbon emissions, and his administration is poised to move forward on actions to do just that—including a move that will effectively eliminate the possibility of any new coal plant opening in the United States, experts say.

"We can choose to believe that Superstorm Sandy, and the most severe drought in decades, and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence," Obama said during his State of the Union address. "Or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science—and act before it's too late."

[ENJOY: Political Cartoons About Global Warming]

Climate change has been a controversial public policy issue in recent years, as many conservative Republicans have denied a relationship between carbon emissions and incremental increases in temperatures, which many scientists link to increasingly severe weather events.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coal; regulation
Full title: Obama Administration Moves Forward on Climate Change Without Congress -Forthcoming regulation likely means no new coal-fired power plants will be built in the United States

Obama proceeds with Agenda 21

1 posted on 02/22/2013 9:12:50 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
We used to think that having three branches of government was a good idea.

Obama has shown us that we only need The One.

2 posted on 02/22/2013 9:16:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Nachum

Obama is on tape as having said this was his plan years before he ran for POTUS. Since he has been elected twice apparently the American people actually want this.

We’ll see how they feel when they see their electric bill in a couple of years.


3 posted on 02/22/2013 9:17:36 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Nachum

Yes, wildfires caused by decades of forest mismanagement are caused by global warming. Only in a liberal’s brain.


4 posted on 02/22/2013 9:18:24 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Nachum

Vile.


5 posted on 02/22/2013 9:22:05 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Nachum

Why should he start now?


6 posted on 02/22/2013 9:26:13 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Nachum

Tell me if I am wrong (As an Aussie I don’t know everything about your political system)but won’t it be easier to undo these things that he has done by going around congress than it would be had he followed the correct political procedure. Just looking for a silver lining in what are otherwise dark political clouds.

Mel


7 posted on 02/22/2013 9:28:49 AM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“We’ll see how they feel when they see their electric bill in a couple of years.”

I used to feel that at least I could enjoy listening to liberals whine when Obama’s policies cost them.

I now know that Americans in general, and liberals in particular, are so stupid, that they require the Obama media to tell them what they should think. Therefore, if the Obama media puts forth any cover at all for the high energy costs, something like: it’s Republican’s fault because of the energy costs for printing all the cash that Republicans hoard, that will cause the stupid public to be content with Obama.

How much buzz do you hear about the price of gasoline? Almost none. Why? The Obama media hasn’t told the stupid American public it’s a problem.


8 posted on 02/22/2013 9:28:53 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Nachum
Obama can do anything he wishes and there’s not a thing we as individuals can do. Those we elect to congress and the senate are supposed to and do have the power to stop this arrogant fool but they are scared to death of him. They cower before him like spineless punks and punkettes and let him have his way them. We have had a one man government for over four years so why are we paying these other wimps to crawl along behind him with their lips puckered up????
9 posted on 02/22/2013 9:30:58 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If Obama has his way only thugs and the body guards of those aspiring to be dictators will be armed.)
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To: Nachum

Nations that follow fools do not prosper .. or last long.


10 posted on 02/22/2013 9:32:57 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: melsec

“Tell me if I am wrong (As an Aussie I don’t know everything about your political system)but won’t it be easier to undo these things that he has done by going around congress than it would be had he followed the correct political procedure. Just looking for a silver lining in what are otherwise dark political clouds.

Mel”

I’m as sour as I could possibly be on what Americans have done to a fine Republic. So, my answer to your question is: Yes, but... where the qualifier is that there has to be political will to undo what’s been done. The opposition party, (Republicans), is filled with career politicians who want nothing more than to remain employed. If there is any political gain to keeping Obama’s moves in place, there will be no roll back.

If, somehow, by a miracle, or a plague that wipes out the existing media and political elite, and magically imparts the ability to think onto the American public, yep, things could change.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 9:34:41 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Nachum
President Barack Obama is tired of waiting for Congress to move on legislation

Defund the EPA. oboma is not our emperor.
Tie his hands now, or this country isn't going to make it another 4 years.

.

12 posted on 02/22/2013 9:35:32 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: melsec
but won’t it be easier to undo these things that he has done by going around congress

In a way yes, but also no. Part of the strength of a country is its infrastructure. If it is deliberately dismantled, it takes a certain amount of time and energy to get it going again. In the mean time, much suffering and misery is going on.

We can rebuild. We have done it before. It will simply take a good amount of time. :(

13 posted on 02/22/2013 9:39:01 AM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
From his recent SOTU speech...

“But if Congress won’t act soon to protect future generations, I will,” Obama said. “I will direct my cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take, now and in the future, to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy.”

He's not going to let the Constitution get in the way of Agenda 21.

14 posted on 02/22/2013 9:39:08 AM PST by Jane Long (Whew...good to be back in FR Realville. Thanks Jim & John)
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To: melsec

Thanks for trying to find a silver lining but there may be no after Obama. If he decides to just keep his job, we don’t have anyone brave enough to tell him he can’t and enforce it.

This is the damndest situation I have ever witnessed.


15 posted on 02/22/2013 9:40:44 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If Obama has his way only thugs and the body guards of those aspiring to be dictators will be armed.)
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To: brownsfan

The thoughts of the low information Marxist supporter:

Gas prices up. Check.
Electricity prices up. Check.
Taxes up. Check.
Unemployment up and staying up. Check and check.
Income stagnant. Check.
I hate rich white people who hate women, “Climate Change”, bad hurricanes, Walmart and guns.
I love my new tattoo, abortions and “Healthcare for All”.
I love our President, The NCAA Tournament, Beyonce and my “COEXIST” bumper sticker.
I’m not a racist, and therefore I’m happy.


16 posted on 02/22/2013 9:42:03 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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To: Nachum

Only things like having our Ambassador murdered in Benghazi with no US rescue efforts are “freak coincidences”


17 posted on 02/22/2013 9:43:41 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
This is the damndest situation I have ever witnessed.

He's managed to deceive many. He'd deceive even the righteous elite if it were possible.

What are obomas greatest successes? First, building up the armies against Israel. Second, destroying the U.S., a Christian nation and a restrainer who would come to Israels aid.

During his first 3.5 years he showed himself as a man of peace. His second 3.5 years will show the world who he really is.

18 posted on 02/22/2013 9:55:22 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
We’ll see how they feel when they see their electric bill in a couple of years.

As long as the new regs only apply to NEW construction, there's likely NOT going to be much impact on electric bills.... Natural Gas remains very cheap... and, Nat Gas power plants are MUCH less costly to build relative to coal.

No huge runup in power costs will occur until... Nat gas gets expensive again. Which, it will.. but, it'll be awhile.

19 posted on 02/22/2013 9:55:27 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Nachum

Can someone please IMPEACH this MARXIST?? Please...


20 posted on 02/22/2013 9:56:29 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Nachum

“We can choose to believe that evil clowns, the mutant menace, and the worst goblin infestations some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence, or we can believe the absolute scientific consensus that Jews are witches!”, said Obama.


21 posted on 02/22/2013 10:00:08 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
We’ll see how they feel when they see their electric bill in a couple of years.

Why would they care about their electric bills (or any other expense)? The tax payers pay for all their stuff. It's no sweat off their backs.

22 posted on 02/22/2013 10:01:27 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Since he has been elected twice apparently the American people actually want this.

I recently saw the movie "Lincoln" and found it disturbing.

First: Ending slavery was good. The movie is about the Senate approval of the 13th Amendment, and I won't argue that slavery was a good thing.

In the movie, Lincoln admits that he is probably using illegal powers. He uses bribery, and tries to maintain plausible deniability on this tactic. He declares himself to be "President of the United States -- clothed in immense power!" and he insists on getting his way.

He also makes the point that he passed the Emancipation Proclamation (which affected only the Confederacy) and gave the voters a year and a half to think about it. And then they re-elected him. Therefore -- he can do anything he wants. He won.

I saw echoes of Obama all over this movie. And I am absolutely sure that Obama saw echoes of Obama all over this movie.

Obama is trying to do what Lincoln did. Obama is governing as a war-time president, ruling a divided country going through a Civil War. Obama seeks to bend us all to his will -- he is "President of the United States -- clothed in immense power!" and he insists on getting his way.

23 posted on 02/22/2013 10:01:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: brownsfan
The opposition party, (Republicans), is filled with career politicians who want nothing more than to remain employed.

Which is precisely why we need to make it nearly impossible to be a "career politician". Start with a combination of term limits and forbidding them to exempt themselves from any law they pass; add strictly enforced penalties for any degree of political corruption.

24 posted on 02/22/2013 10:03:15 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Obama is trying to do what Lincoln did.

Lincoln freed the slaves, believing no man should be used as another mans slave. Oboma is creating them, believeing all men should should be used as government (his) slaves. Other than being high on his own power, the two are complete opposites.

25 posted on 02/22/2013 10:15:51 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: JimRed

“Which is precisely why we need to make it nearly impossible to be a “career politician”. Start with a combination of term limits and forbidding them to exempt themselves from any law they pass; add strictly enforced penalties for any degree of political corruption.”

All good in theory, but the system has been perverted. Who do we need to pass these laws? Career politicians. How does one get to be elected to high office? By gaining support of career politicians and becoming one of them.

The gains will come incrementally, and slowly. We don’t have the time. Liberalism will cause a collapse long before the system can be repaired.


26 posted on 02/22/2013 10:22:34 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

We need refineries. Here are the latest updates posted.

http://www.hyperionec.com/news/press-releases/ff82d5c5b208a0604c9ab73382679b3c/

http://www.arizonacleanfuels.com/press.htm

We can produce much oil, but if we cannot refine it, it’s not much benefit.

IMHO, Pols like Maxine Waters would like to ‘socialize’ the oil industry for the revenue stream. They see many other nations with such nationalized corporations and are jealous. If they can create enough pain at the pump , thus a public outcry for relief, the Dems have a plan in place (just like many facists).
The Chicago Climate Futures Exchange where the carbon credits were to be traded is closed. But the ideas and methods to capture $5T in value from thin air still lingers.


27 posted on 02/22/2013 10:25:04 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: brownsfan
Boy I wish Americans thought like Ya’ll.
28 posted on 02/22/2013 10:27:55 AM PST by tayper (Granny told me, Saying it don't make it so)
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To: concerned about politics
Lincoln broke what the Founders gave to us: a federation of free states, each deciding on their own laws, within the limits set out by the Constitution.

Lincoln ended that and started us all on the road to Federal tyranny. Obama is trying to complete the journey that Lincoln began.

Certainly, I will not defend slavery. But I will not defend Lincoln either.
I think Lincoln meant well, but he did a bad thing. Obama does not mean well.

29 posted on 02/22/2013 10:32:33 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

>>We’ll see how they feel when they see their electric bill in a couple of years.<<

Not very likely, as the majority of his supporters are the low-information, low-income, EBT/Welfare/Obamaphone type, they get all sorts of gimme’s when it comes to paying the electric bill.

Many of the Section-8 housing areas include electric in the controlled rent. I have a family member in such a place - doesn’t matter how much electricity the deadbeats use, they never “pay” a dime more than the standard all-inclusive amount. All courtesy of the US Taxpayer.

So to the losers, it doesn’t matter a bit, since there’s no consequenses in life for them. But for us, the working fools having to shell out 150% more every month for electricity...a spear in the side from both directions.


30 posted on 02/22/2013 10:56:43 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: brownsfan

Yes, sadly your Republican opposition is quite weak. They ought to be saying that they will undo anything he has by Presidential fiat. That would be the minimum I would expect from a principled politician. However I think they might be rubbing their hands together in glee thinking of how they can use the same power to get things done themselves. Obama and the Demonrats may be setting a precedent that they regret. The ends do not justify the means, however, when they circumvent the appropriate political process.

Mel


31 posted on 02/22/2013 11:02:54 AM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: Nachum

When “The Cambodian Kid” the US Secretary of State first public appearance was about “globull warming” It should become clear, no pipeline,and that there is a master use of energy plan involving massive social engineering . Surpringly Romney brought it up during the campaign but it was quickly buried. Morris’s wife wrote a book about it. I think even Newt brought it up.

Nobody wants to touch it because it sounds too fantastic. The gist of which is Obama believes to make the US use less energy dependent.There should be movement back into the cities hence the reliance on public transport raise the cost of fuel as to make it prohibitive. The whole concept is based on pseudo science and false assumptions using global warming as the excuse.

What blows my mind is that on the GOPES end this is pretty well known but they’re saying or doing nothing.


32 posted on 02/22/2013 11:20:56 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Nachum

And the eunechs in the GOP say and do nothing.


33 posted on 02/22/2013 11:21:52 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Lincoln broke what the Founders gave to us: a federation of free states, each deciding on their own laws, within the limits set out by the Constitution. Lincoln ended that and started us all on the road to Federal tyranny. Obama is trying to complete the journey that Lincoln began. Certainly, I will not defend slavery. But I will not defend Lincoln either. I think Lincoln meant well, but he did a bad thing. Obama does not mean well.

I've not been a fan of Lincoln, after figuring out that the over-arching Federal government began with him. He conceived the idea that the "Union" was more important than States' Rights, and decided that the Confederacy could not be allowed to continue. The truth is, the Confederacy would have eventually collapsed anyway, and would have probably petitioned to rejoin the Union, and it could all have happened without the bloodshed, and devastation that occurred. Slavery was already dying in the South, and it would have eventually ceased. It was not a sustainable economic model.

Now, let me be clear, I abhor slavery. None of my ancestors held slaves. My mother's family came from Amish and Mennonite roots. My father's family didn't even arrive in the US until after the War of Northern Aggression, coming from Bavaria. Slavery is a moral evil. And our country paid a dear price for failing to deal with it at the time of the Revolution. But Lincoln while meaning well, as you say, did not solve the problem in the right way. And now we are paying the price for that....

34 posted on 02/22/2013 11:30:40 AM PST by nobdysfool (If the Federal government was in charge of the Sahara, there would be a shortage of sand....)
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To: All
"...which many scientists link..."


The reporter has dropped one notch down from “consensus”.

Perhaps that's an improvement?

35 posted on 02/22/2013 11:34:04 AM PST by az_gila
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Those we elect to congress and the senate are supposed to and do have the power to stop this arrogant fool but they are scared to death of him

The Dem Senate is egging him on because the people were responsible for voting that way. And what do you expect the House to do in the face of EO's?

36 posted on 02/22/2013 1:43:10 PM PST by what's up
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To: melsec
won’t it be easier to undo these things that he has done by going around congress

But we have to wait 4 years (at least) until we get a GOP President to do so.

37 posted on 02/22/2013 1:45:24 PM PST by what's up
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To: melsec

Yes but the problem we have is called Human Nature,right now jealousy,envy and greed is selling very well.
When that runs its course and its inevitable consequences are realized,then maybe the worm will turn.


38 posted on 02/23/2013 7:17:15 AM PST by ballplayer
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