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Marble-Saine bill would limit state enforcement of federal firearms restrictions (Colorado)
Longmont Times-Call ^ | Updated: 02/21/2013 10:13:31 PM MST | John Fryar

Posted on 02/22/2013 11:32:40 AM PST by Red Steel

Colorado officials would be prohibited from enforcing any federal laws that ban or restrict the ownership of semi-automatic weapons or ammunition magazines, under a bill sponsored by two state lawmakers whose districts include the southwest Weld County facilities of Magpul Industries, a firearms accessories manufacturer.

Awaiting a hearing by the Senate State, Veterans and Military Affairs Committee is Senate Bill 140, a measure from Sen. Vicki Marble, R-Fort Collins, and Rep. Lori Saine, R-Dacono, that would bar any state employee or agency -- including peace officers -- from enforcing any federal laws or regulations enacted since Jan. 1, if those laws or rules restrict possessing firearms, firearms accessories or ammunition manufactured commercially or privately in the United States, if those weapons, gun parts and ammunition "remain exclusively within the borders of Colorado."

The Marble-Saine bill is unlikely to survive its first committee test in the Democratic-controlled state Senate.

However, if it became state law, it would also declare unenforceable within Colorado any federal laws that require the registration of weapons or restrict Coloradans from buying any weapons from licensed dealers or private sellers in other states.

Their bill would also bar state officials from enforcing any federal laws that would restrict residents of other states from purchasing or possessing any firearm while visiting Colorado.

The bill would allow Colorado's attorney general to defend a Colorado resident prosecuted in U.S. District Court for alleged violations of restrictions that Congress might pass on possession of assault weapons or high-capacity ammunition magazines, if those weapons or magazines remained inside Colorado.

It would further make it a misdemeanor for any federal government employee or agent to attempt to enforce such federal laws in Colorado.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/22/2013 11:32:50 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Yeah, they’ll be to busy enforcing their own state laws. That is if they aren’t to stoned from all the pot smoke. Colorado is off the list of places to go. Like kali, it, kolorado. use to be a great place.

2 posted on 02/22/2013 11:39:13 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Red Steel

I was considering an Elk hunting trip to Colorado but now Utah is looking like a better choice

3 posted on 02/22/2013 12:03:34 PM PST by BobinIL
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To: Red Steel

I haven’t yet heard or read about any Democrats in the Senate likely to vote against the four gun control bills that passed the House.

4 posted on 02/22/2013 1:14:27 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: rktman

True. I wonder if CO will get more revenues from fines, federal funding for social services, police, domestic violence, etc. Word is that the new constitutional amendments and/or laws legalizing pot are already luring quite a few spooky transients/convicts to resort areas. Could be hordes of ‘em before long.

5 posted on 02/22/2013 1:33:59 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
Need 3 Dems to vote against (18 to 17 vote against) and along with all Rs to defeat any gun-grab bill.

This is what I got so far from public and news statements.

Cut pasted here from assorted news stories.

"Most Democrats, including Sen. Lois Tochtrop, D-Thornton, who is known as a strong Second Amendment advocate, said they would reserve comment until they had actually read the bill, which has yet to be introduced."

Tochtop a "strong" Second Amendment advocate? Uhuh, that's why she is sponsoring this bill.

From RMGO:

"Sen. Lois Tochtrop/ Rep. Jenise May - Forced Additional Training Requirements to Obtain CCW Permit - Sponsor yet to introduce but reportedly working on it"

"Sen. Cheri Jahn’s, D-Wheat Ridge, first community listening session at the Wheat Ridge Recreation Center.

In response to the school shootings at Sandy Hook and questions about the relationship between mass-murderers, guns and mental illnesses, Jahn and state Rep. Sue Schafer from District 24 addressed the issues of mental health and public safety on Saturday.

“I have not made any decisions any way,” Jahn said.

“I am in the listening mode ... I would be happy to take all your phone calls downtown, your emails downtown. We need to have a really thoughtful conversation around all of this.” "


Senator John Morse D has said this.

"...proclaimed his belief that additional background checks and a ban on high capacity magazines would do little to limit gun violence, stepping on a key message coming from supporters of gun control in his own party."

" “How does a limit on high-capacity magazines reduce violence?” Morse asked rhetorically in the interview "

Morse also made a statement about a tactical reload to a full mag when possible in a fire fight when he met with Hickelooper's recent "gun conversation" forum.

....Well Morse, at the very least step on HB-1224.

The D Senator who represents Pueblo may or could be a vote against any of these anti-Second Amendment bill.

6 posted on 02/22/2013 3:18:58 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: familyop

“Senate will hear House gun bills first week of March”

That’s Monday, March 4th.

7 posted on 02/22/2013 10:12:04 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: familyop

Read someplace (FR?) that the clowns haven’t even figured what level of weed constitutes “DUI” yet. I guess they’ll have plenty of volunteers to undertake the testing. Maybe someone from the “Choom Gang” will raise their hand! Get out the oversize pillows and break out the sitar music. Crapenstock sandals and more tie-dye than you can shake a stick at. Maybe it’s a good idea they’re trying to pass stricter gun laws. I know drinking and guns don’t mix and I’m kinda thinking weed and guns is about the same thing. Of course re-loading takes an eternity. (just guessin’)

We’ve already got MADD so do we now need MAWSPH? (Mothers Against Weed Smokin’ Pot Heads).

[I was thinking about starting my own pro drinking group called DAMM. (Drunks Against Mad Mothers)] “Sarcasm alert!!!!”

8 posted on 02/23/2013 5:46:57 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: rktman

Agreed on the potheads and their political parents’ policies in leadership. Spoiled special interests have brought us some ugly times.

The following is for all who read this, because the current political fights against our Second Amendment are quite related to it.

When many are laid off from government jobs and services dependent on those (more “austerity measures” ahead), crime rates will go way up then, IMO. Poverty doesn’t breed leftism/criminality (thus the relatively low crime rate now), but when the spoiled rotten overly socially inclined are deposed from their social troublemaking ways in offices,...

On violence and security, BTW, I’ve been around some (service, duties, employment, etc.). Most folks focus much on firearms, because firearms get a lot of attention in the media. But there are other very important considerations.

There are detectors (with receivers: alarms), lighting (soft lighting works), optics, physical/legal barriers (fences and many others—all nonlethal, of course), nonlethal weapons, cameras (many very low lux ones cheap now, for those who look for them enough), situations (where objects are situated—spots of concealment and the like), real cover of the pretty kind (low, small mounds with pretty flowers planted on them, rock veneers,...), diversions (prepared/likely approaches), gate w/intercom, lighting, lighting, lighting (including solar garden lights), opaque shades/curtains, plans, plans, plans,... A lawyer specializing in self-defense on retainer. The list is virtually endless. A well-secured home doesn’t have to be ugly or notorious. It can really be nice looking.

Consider in advance, how to properly escalate or de-escalate various situations in order to avoid the worst (avoid getting injured/killed, court, etc.). Attackers can be slimy with conniving, and later, prepared and practiced lies.

For those stuck in cheap rentals in the cities, there are many ways to stay out of the way of others, even in plain sight. Consider those frequently, over time. For a little humor, see the beggar characters of old kung fu movies, and compose a less obnoxious, less comical, western version of same character. Be pleasant and agreeable with neighbors, like an old fashioned, small town politician.

Above all, get and stay in good physical shape the best that you can (walks, wheelchair excursions, martial arts forms, calisthenics, any or all). Bad health will continue to be the greatest danger for us.

All of that said, I’m still strictly in favor of our Second Amendment. Do range practice while sober, straight, generally safe (patient) and as healthy as possible. Get interested in the numbers (ballistics—especially those related to accuracy). Do night fire practice somewhere, if feasible. Most people neglect nighttime and its probabilities (crime probabilities with defense considerations for the night—even neglected by most related duties or employment).

I’ve seen too many assumptions spouted in discussion boards on the Net. For example, some have said that self-defense can’t be done against a long range sniper, with hundreds of yards between the sniper and them. Well, some people have much visibility all around them, no place for cover and no police within many miles. What if the house of such a person receives thousands of rifle rounds fired from a long distance?

And what of the handloading myth based on a couple of tenuously relevant cases of the past? Trust accuracy to some custom cartridge shop? Bunk, and risky. A man or woman with a rifle or pistol for match competition or other sports (hunting, etc.) wasn’t planning to murder or excessively wound anyone. Some prosecutors pride themselves on getting improper convictions, and such feats of travesty have been accomplished in many strange ways (e.g., drama evoking emotional responses, storytelling, juries loaded with hysteria). The issue is as irrelevant as laws passed against traditional family structure on the anecdotes and subjectivities of feminists.

In other words, be nonpolitical. Do what is right and healthy regardless of the desires of pathological leadership from some (and cluelessness in many)—common sense. That’s one of the attitudes that won against the Soviet Union. Back to the old normal, and exclude only the suckups (the few perverted, busybody neighbors of fascism).

9 posted on 02/23/2013 3:48:34 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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