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My take on "sequestration"(I am a DoD Federal GS Employee).
22 Feb 2013 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 02/22/2013 12:12:51 PM PST by US Navy Vet

I will be losing 1 day a week with no pay(16 hours per a 2 week pay period).


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If this is what is required to BUST Obama to the side of his head then it is money well LOST! O and my wife is not freaking out about it so I won't either. I will be looking for opportuities for my Monday's off.
1 posted on 02/22/2013 12:12:58 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

I calculated $326 per pay day for me, GRRRRR!


2 posted on 02/22/2013 12:15:31 PM PST by Captain PJ (Are we there yet?)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yup.... and you can look into signing up for SNAP and all the other Washington goodies - which by the way, aren’t touched by the sequester.


3 posted on 02/22/2013 12:17:25 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: US Navy Vet

Sorry to hear that and I know it sucks. It appears you know that you are simply being used as a pawn.


4 posted on 02/22/2013 12:17:33 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Captain PJ

Yep pretty much the same for me.


5 posted on 02/22/2013 12:18:45 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

If O does like Clinton, Federal Employees will ultimately get paid for the time they don’t have to report to work - won’t be counted against vacation or anything (it would be interesting to see if employees that were scheduled for vacations during the Clinton shutdown actually got that vacation time back - imagine so).


6 posted on 02/22/2013 12:18:45 PM PST by LibertyOh
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To: Captain PJ; US Navy Vet

Both of you do realize that when all is said and done, that these furloughs will be ‘forgiven’ and you will be paid retroactively, don’t you.....at least that’s what has happened before, albeit for a limited time scale because the Repubs pussied out and gave in too early. This time will be no different because Obama needs your votes.


7 posted on 02/22/2013 12:19:27 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: LibertyOh

What this says: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/furlough-guidance/guidance-for-administrative-furloughs.pdf is we cannot take leave for the time we cannot work. I will be doing Mr Fix-It thing and Household Cleaning on my “furlough” days.


8 posted on 02/22/2013 12:22:41 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

DHS Civilian here, same boat. Not whining about it.

An opportunity to get my home office cleaned up, or remodel the kitchen, or volunteer at the local food bank once a week.


9 posted on 02/22/2013 12:23:28 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (2 Corinthians 4:8)
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To: US Navy Vet
Excuse me.

If I remember correctly from the last time the government was shut down and Federal (GS) employees weren't fully paid on time they didn't lose any pay.

Their full pay was a partial pay with the difference made up as soon as the federal Government “went back” to work.

This happened in the mid to late 1990’s when Clinton and Gingrich had their spat over the debt ceiling, spending cuts and tax increases. An argument similar to today's spat.

10 posted on 02/22/2013 12:25:25 PM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Limbaugh, Levin, and other talkies pointed out that fed employees will be recompensed (paid back) for their time off once the BS settles down. But that those in private industry won’t.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 12:26:09 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: US Navy Vet

Which means less taxes paid into the federal coffers.


12 posted on 02/22/2013 12:26:31 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Gaffer

I hope you are correct and yes I do feel like a pawn (although it’s raining really hard right now and I feel like a prawn)


13 posted on 02/22/2013 12:26:44 PM PST by Captain PJ (Are we there yet?)
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To: US Navy Vet

former defense industry worker here, recently laid off/early retirement. Saw the writing on the wall. Was planning on going Galt anyway, just doing it sooner now. Less of me to tax is how I see it...


14 posted on 02/22/2013 12:27:51 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: T-Bird45

After 36 years being self-employed, I shut my biz down a few years ago, and haven’t made a dime since, other than selling assets. I went from needing 6 figures a month down to 3 figures.
I highly recommend that anyone getting revenue from a gov’t source, either working or entitleling, start deleveraging and get out of debt. And develop your own food sources.


15 posted on 02/22/2013 12:27:54 PM PST by bigmak007 (They who can't control their own passions, want to passionately control others.)
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To: Nip

“This happened in the mid to late 1990’s” this AINE”T the “mid to late 1990’s” AND Obama AINE’T Clinton AND Boner AINE’T Newt!


16 posted on 02/22/2013 12:28:46 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Nip

This is a different situation.

Last time the civilians were sent home for an extended period of time until the budget deal was done.

The point of this is to reduce cost, so it wouldn’t be too logical to turn around and spend the money they’re supposed to be saving (I know, I invoked logic. Sorry.)

We may be compensated when it’s all said and done, but I’m not going to assume we will and I’m definitely not counting on it.

The good news is my taxable income will go down. Less for Obama to throw at green energy projects.


17 posted on 02/22/2013 12:32:05 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (2 Corinthians 4:8)
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To: US Navy Vet

Mr. Obama will do his best to make the sequester look painful, warning of furloughs, layoffs, diminished security. But unlike the threat of the tax cliff—which would have immediately hit all American paychecks—the sequester may prove a harder calamity to sell.

Agencies will have 120 days to implement changes. While those agencies are currently predicting doom, they will in reality face pressure to impose cuts in ways that minimize harm. Government unions won’t let agency heads cut employees instead of fancy conference budgets. Moreover, this is a 2.5% cut in spending, not a government shutdown. Americans will continue to get their passports, cash their Social Security checks, and visit national parks.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323549204578318551431747438.html


18 posted on 02/22/2013 12:32:43 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: LibertyOh

My Dad got it all back. Just like it never happened. For most it was a paid vacation.


19 posted on 02/22/2013 12:33:28 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: SueRae

Government by Freakout: Obama’s Scare Tactics Aren’t Much of a Long-Term Strategy.

22 February 2013

The president’s sequester strategy is like Howard Beale in “Network”: “Woe is us. . . . And woe is us! We’re in a lot of trouble!”

It is always cliffs, ceilings and looming catastrophes with Barack Obama. It is always government by freakout.

That’s what’s happening now with the daily sequester warnings. Seven hundred thousand children will be dropped from Head Start. Six hundred thousand women and children will be dropped from aid programs. Meat won’t be inspected. Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off, customs workers too, and air traffic controllers. Lines at airports will be impossible. The Navy will slow down the building of an aircraft carrier. Troop readiness will be disrupted, weapons programs slowed or stalled, civilian contractors stiffed, uniformed first responders cut back. Our nuclear deterrent will be indefinitely suspended. Ha, made that one up, but give them time.

Mr. Obama has finally hit on his own version of national unity: Everyone get scared together.

Obviously the potential budget cuts the administration is announcing—well, not announcing but warning of—are the kind that would cause maximum pain, inconvenience or alarm. Obviously too, the administration doesn’t want to be clear about exactly who might be affected, how or when. Let the imaginative dwell on the extent of the menace; let them do it on cable news.

Read more: http://MinuteMenNews.com/2013/02/government-by-freakout-obamas-scare-tactics-arent-much-of-a-long-term-strategy/#ixzz2Lewd4LQp


20 posted on 02/22/2013 12:38:32 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: US Navy Vet
Thank you for your sacrifice and I feel for you. I hope what you are doing by taking a stand starts to change this country for the better.

What some don't understand or believe is that many in the private sector (us rich people) have been sacrificing since 2008 with no mention except for the "unexpected" numbers every month.

21 posted on 02/22/2013 12:38:49 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I told all my reservists today that they should consider pulling IDTs on those days they’re furloughed - it’s still the gummint’s money, and their active duty units of assignment get some benefit. I also told them I recognized that I’m trying to find the pony in the pile of horse crap.

Colonel,USAFR


22 posted on 02/22/2013 12:41:38 PM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: KeyLargo
Government by Freakout:

LOVE THE TITLE - my new tagline

23 posted on 02/22/2013 12:42:22 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama: Government by Freakout)
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To: Nip

AND Obama and his fellow Cretins LUVS SOME Federal Employees(DHS, EPA, DOJ, Dept “Energy”, Dept “Education” etc) MUCH more than “Others(DoD)”.


24 posted on 02/22/2013 12:44:19 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Captain PJ

Well, you can always go fishing on those furlough days... life ain’t all bad...


25 posted on 02/22/2013 12:47:19 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: US Navy Vet
I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop. I already take in the the shorts by paying 100% of the cost of living 900 miles from my home to work for my employer. That is already an 18% income hit for me. I've accepted that hit since June 2009 because my opportunities dried up when Obama took office. Any employment I could take locally in Idaho would pay much less even after the hit for being out of town.

Another 20% hit would make my current employment income on par with employment available in Idaho. I could go home and be with my family again (a big plus) and have similar gross income.

26 posted on 02/22/2013 12:49:52 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: driftdiver

Which means less taxes paid into the federal coffers.


And less miles driven to work so less gas purchased. And less money spent at walmart.

Et cetera.


27 posted on 02/22/2013 12:53:04 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Hubby works for a major heavy equipment manufactorer. The plant is now being shut down for a week every month, and this is on top of the three week shutdown over Christmas. I do feel sorry for those who are losing salary over this, but those of us in the private sector have been facing this for a few years now.


28 posted on 02/22/2013 12:56:33 PM PST by Ann de IL
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That was kind of a cavalier retort IMO. This guy is actually doing something beneficial I presume...does not seem to be one of those union reps or affirmative hirings. Frankly, they could let go all of the ridicules jobs and leave the workers on the rolls full time.

Yes, they will probably not see any loss of pay when everything plays out. Still, it is a pain having your mind messed with in some political drama. Someone called into Herman Cain’s show today and asked an interesting question: Is the government going to indemnify those businesses which did not adhere to the law and give the required notices of potential layoffs due to His Excellency’s demanding they not give notice before the election? His answer was it will be up to Congress because he was not authorized to make that comment. Seems to me encouraging someone to violate the law is a high crime.

What a comedy show it is DC...tragedy would perhaps be a better term.


29 posted on 02/22/2013 1:01:57 PM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: KeyLargo

Rush called it “Sequesteria” Perfect summation.


30 posted on 02/22/2013 1:04:27 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Nip
the last time the government was shut down and Federal (GS) employees weren't fully paid on time they didn't lose any pay.

This isn't just a Gov't shutdown.

These are permanent cuts (or supposed to be).

The private sector has been tightening the belt the last several years. Looks like Gov't workers will now experience the same.

31 posted on 02/22/2013 1:04:28 PM PST by what's up
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To: mosesdapoet
And that's the foolishness of it all - the furlough is supposed to result in a cost savings to the Govt. But when the civilian workforce gets paid back for the furlough days, there's a double whammy - no savings and no productivity. It becomes a paid vacation without having to use your vacation time.
32 posted on 02/22/2013 1:04:35 PM PST by USNA74
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To: frogjerk

“While some furlough notices will be issued to government workers, there will be few outward signs on March 1 that the cuts have been launched.

Under the law, retirees are shielded and so their Social Security checks will arrive on schedule at the beginning of March and every month thereafter. Similarly, the elderly and the disabled will not see their federally backed Medicare healthcare curtailed at all over the seven months.

Every U.S. soldier will get paid and the Defense Department will be allowed to shift funds to ensure that combat operations and “critical military readiness capabilities” are not degraded, according to the Obama administration.”


33 posted on 02/22/2013 1:04:49 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: mosesdapoet
But that those in private industry won’t.

If government employees had the same salaries, benefits etc as private workers, there would be fewer government employees (and you can look up that comment about government employee total compensation vs private employees).

34 posted on 02/22/2013 1:07:13 PM PST by llevrok (Keep your arms out. ItÂ’ll make it harder for them to throw a net over you.)
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Moreover, this is a 2.5% cut in spending, not a government shutdown

Correction, it is NOT a CUT. It is a reduction in the rate of growth (you remember baseline budgeting). Even after the sequester is fully implemented, we will end up spending more in 2013 than we did in 2012. It is NOT a freaking CUT!!!

35 posted on 02/22/2013 1:10:50 PM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Mouton

We have been through many of these “if we don’t do this, so and so is gonna be cut, people will be furloughed, etc.” routines. It will be the same here.

Besides, and I’d like to tell you that at least I had the foresight to look at his member page that says “I’d rather be fishing!” before I posted what I did.


36 posted on 02/22/2013 1:12:12 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: US Navy Vet

Next time you go thru the TSA checkpoint, instead of three employees siting in the back eating donuts, there will only be two back there. The other one will be on furlough.


37 posted on 02/22/2013 1:15:24 PM PST by 11th_VA (JURY NULLIFICATION FOR UNCONSTITUTIONAL GUN LAWS !!!)
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To: Go Gordon

Opinion February 20, 2013

Obama Says The Sky Is Falling And It Can’t Get Up
Unless he gets another tax hike—like just happened a month ago—Obama claims we’re all in danger.

Not only does President Obama claim the sky is falling, he also says it can’t get up.
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Unless he gets another tax hike–like just happened a month ago—Obama claims we’re all in danger.

While still pretending that he’s cut federal spending dramatically—which is totally false—Obama says hundreds of thousands of Americans will lose their health care access.

He claims tens of thousands of parents will lose childcare.

He claims FBI agents will be laid off and criminals will be turned loose. And Obama says there’s no escape, because air traffic control will be a mess.

There are better ways to handle scheduled slowdowns in spending—the sequester—Obama ignores them and now he’s trying to make public safety and our military take the hit.

The question is not whether the sky is falling, but whether we are going to fall for Obama’s scare tactics.

From The Heritage Foundation, I’m Ernest Istook.

http://www.talkradionews.com/opinion/2013/02/20/obama-says-the-sky-is-falling-and-it-cant-get-up.html#.USfU31dXroY


38 posted on 02/22/2013 1:16:01 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Gaffer

39 posted on 02/22/2013 1:20:54 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Indeed, what Obama is doing, on a larger scale, is just like how PBS puts a gun to the head of Big Bird everytime their public funding is threatened.

Obama really needs to be called out on how the cuts are going against essential services, not bloat.


40 posted on 02/22/2013 1:28:27 PM PST by tanknetter
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But that those in private industry won’t.

Yep. We called them DWOP's (Days WithOut Pay). No re-compensation. I did get severance pay though when my job was completely eliminated.

41 posted on 02/22/2013 1:39:22 PM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I see only one good thing in this. All of those Government Affirmative action loads that Obama hired are going to be squealing like pigs.


42 posted on 02/22/2013 1:42:40 PM PST by Venturer
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To: US Navy Vet

Since there are NO cuts in Federal spending on a year to year basis, why would there be ANY reduction in the workforce of those Federally employed?

Something is being covered up here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, what is the difference between Spendaholic Obama’s “Balanced Approach” and the failed policy of “Tax and Spend?”


43 posted on 02/22/2013 1:46:27 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Law s, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: US Navy Vet

Hey let’s remember this sequestation plan is Obama’s> The vast majority of the fed workers who might lose a few days work are Obama voters.


44 posted on 02/22/2013 1:49:11 PM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: kenmcg

Uh NO, the “Vast””Majority” of “Federal Workers” that are/will be affected by this one are DoD.


45 posted on 02/22/2013 1:53:03 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

You just blasted Utah as being unworthy of statehood and you expect me to feel sorry for your budgetary plight! Sorry, you look to be an ex military retiree who has been double dipping the rest of us. Just wish, at the end of the day, you don’t get paid for “not working.” Life must be tough having to live on your Navy pension and your DoD salary! It just sucks to be you!


46 posted on 02/22/2013 1:59:07 PM PST by vette6387
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To: US Navy Vet

Don’t feel like the lone ranger.

Your brothers and sisters at DHS are getting furlough days as well.


47 posted on 02/22/2013 2:00:27 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (2 Corinthians 4:8)
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To: Graewoulf
It's just poor management. It always happens with "gubmint": cut to the bone first, but don't trim any fat. The low-information citizen falls for it everytime.

I'm extremely disappointed with the 4-stars in the Pentagon. They're showing no leadership at all, steppin' to the tune of the politicians. IMHO, the Pentagon could cut the # of generals by at least half, and not miss a beat.

48 posted on 02/22/2013 2:04:18 PM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

“Your brothers and sisters at DHS are getting furlough days as well.”

You mean “fellow hogs at the government trough” don’t you? We should never have created the DHS in the first place. They should go get a meaningful job in the private sector and quit living off their fellow citizens!


49 posted on 02/22/2013 2:04:18 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387; US Navy Vet

I don’t resume to speak for US Navy Vet; however, if you read his very first post it’s clear he’s not expecting anyone to feel sorry for his budgetary plight.


50 posted on 02/22/2013 2:05:36 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (2 Corinthians 4:8)
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