Skip to comments.My take on "sequestration"(I am a DoD Federal GS Employee).
Posted on 02/22/2013 12:12:51 PM PST by US Navy Vet
I will be losing 1 day a week with no pay(16 hours per a 2 week pay period).
I calculated $326 per pay day for me, GRRRRR!
Yup.... and you can look into signing up for SNAP and all the other Washington goodies - which by the way, aren’t touched by the sequester.
Sorry to hear that and I know it sucks. It appears you know that you are simply being used as a pawn.
Yep pretty much the same for me.
If O does like Clinton, Federal Employees will ultimately get paid for the time they don’t have to report to work - won’t be counted against vacation or anything (it would be interesting to see if employees that were scheduled for vacations during the Clinton shutdown actually got that vacation time back - imagine so).
Both of you do realize that when all is said and done, that these furloughs will be ‘forgiven’ and you will be paid retroactively, don’t you.....at least that’s what has happened before, albeit for a limited time scale because the Repubs pussied out and gave in too early. This time will be no different because Obama needs your votes.
What this says: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/furlough-guidance/guidance-for-administrative-furloughs.pdf is we cannot take leave for the time we cannot work. I will be doing Mr Fix-It thing and Household Cleaning on my “furlough” days.
DHS Civilian here, same boat. Not whining about it.
An opportunity to get my home office cleaned up, or remodel the kitchen, or volunteer at the local food bank once a week.
If I remember correctly from the last time the government was shut down and Federal (GS) employees weren't fully paid on time they didn't lose any pay.
Their full pay was a partial pay with the difference made up as soon as the federal Government “went back” to work.
This happened in the mid to late 1990’s when Clinton and Gingrich had their spat over the debt ceiling, spending cuts and tax increases. An argument similar to today's spat.
Limbaugh, Levin, and other talkies pointed out that fed employees will be recompensed (paid back) for their time off once the BS settles down. But that those in private industry won’t.
Which means less taxes paid into the federal coffers.
I hope you are correct and yes I do feel like a pawn (although it’s raining really hard right now and I feel like a prawn)
former defense industry worker here, recently laid off/early retirement. Saw the writing on the wall. Was planning on going Galt anyway, just doing it sooner now. Less of me to tax is how I see it...
After 36 years being self-employed, I shut my biz down a few years ago, and haven’t made a dime since, other than selling assets. I went from needing 6 figures a month down to 3 figures.
I highly recommend that anyone getting revenue from a gov’t source, either working or entitleling, start deleveraging and get out of debt. And develop your own food sources.
“This happened in the mid to late 1990s” this AINE”T the “mid to late 1990s” AND Obama AINE’T Clinton AND Boner AINE’T Newt!
This is a different situation.
Last time the civilians were sent home for an extended period of time until the budget deal was done.
The point of this is to reduce cost, so it wouldn’t be too logical to turn around and spend the money they’re supposed to be saving (I know, I invoked logic. Sorry.)
We may be compensated when it’s all said and done, but I’m not going to assume we will and I’m definitely not counting on it.
The good news is my taxable income will go down. Less for Obama to throw at green energy projects.
Mr. Obama will do his best to make the sequester look painful, warning of furloughs, layoffs, diminished security. But unlike the threat of the tax cliffwhich would have immediately hit all American paychecksthe sequester may prove a harder calamity to sell.
Agencies will have 120 days to implement changes. While those agencies are currently predicting doom, they will in reality face pressure to impose cuts in ways that minimize harm. Government unions won’t let agency heads cut employees instead of fancy conference budgets. Moreover, this is a 2.5% cut in spending, not a government shutdown. Americans will continue to get their passports, cash their Social Security checks, and visit national parks.
My Dad got it all back. Just like it never happened. For most it was a paid vacation.
Government by Freakout: Obamas Scare Tactics Arent Much of a Long-Term Strategy.
22 February 2013
The presidents sequester strategy is like Howard Beale in Network: Woe is us. . . . And woe is us! Were in a lot of trouble!
It is always cliffs, ceilings and looming catastrophes with Barack Obama. It is always government by freakout.
Thats whats happening now with the daily sequester warnings. Seven hundred thousand children will be dropped from Head Start. Six hundred thousand women and children will be dropped from aid programs. Meat wont be inspected. Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off, customs workers too, and air traffic controllers. Lines at airports will be impossible. The Navy will slow down the building of an aircraft carrier. Troop readiness will be disrupted, weapons programs slowed or stalled, civilian contractors stiffed, uniformed first responders cut back. Our nuclear deterrent will be indefinitely suspended. Ha, made that one up, but give them time.
Mr. Obama has finally hit on his own version of national unity: Everyone get scared together.
Obviously the potential budget cuts the administration is announcingwell, not announcing but warning ofare the kind that would cause maximum pain, inconvenience or alarm. Obviously too, the administration doesnt want to be clear about exactly who might be affected, how or when. Let the imaginative dwell on the extent of the menace; let them do it on cable news.
What some don't understand or believe is that many in the private sector (us rich people) have been sacrificing since 2008 with no mention except for the "unexpected" numbers every month.
I told all my reservists today that they should consider pulling IDTs on those days they’re furloughed - it’s still the gummint’s money, and their active duty units of assignment get some benefit. I also told them I recognized that I’m trying to find the pony in the pile of horse crap.
LOVE THE TITLE - my new tagline
AND Obama and his fellow Cretins LUVS SOME Federal Employees(DHS, EPA, DOJ, Dept “Energy”, Dept “Education” etc) MUCH more than “Others(DoD)”.
Well, you can always go fishing on those furlough days... life ain’t all bad...
Another 20% hit would make my current employment income on par with employment available in Idaho. I could go home and be with my family again (a big plus) and have similar gross income.
Which means less taxes paid into the federal coffers.
Hubby works for a major heavy equipment manufactorer. The plant is now being shut down for a week every month, and this is on top of the three week shutdown over Christmas. I do feel sorry for those who are losing salary over this, but those of us in the private sector have been facing this for a few years now.
That was kind of a cavalier retort IMO. This guy is actually doing something beneficial I presume...does not seem to be one of those union reps or affirmative hirings. Frankly, they could let go all of the ridicules jobs and leave the workers on the rolls full time.
Yes, they will probably not see any loss of pay when everything plays out. Still, it is a pain having your mind messed with in some political drama. Someone called into Herman Cain’s show today and asked an interesting question: Is the government going to indemnify those businesses which did not adhere to the law and give the required notices of potential layoffs due to His Excellency’s demanding they not give notice before the election? His answer was it will be up to Congress because he was not authorized to make that comment. Seems to me encouraging someone to violate the law is a high crime.
What a comedy show it is DC...tragedy would perhaps be a better term.
Rush called it “Sequesteria” Perfect summation.
This isn't just a Gov't shutdown.
These are permanent cuts (or supposed to be).
The private sector has been tightening the belt the last several years. Looks like Gov't workers will now experience the same.
“While some furlough notices will be issued to government workers, there will be few outward signs on March 1 that the cuts have been launched.
Under the law, retirees are shielded and so their Social Security checks will arrive on schedule at the beginning of March and every month thereafter. Similarly, the elderly and the disabled will not see their federally backed Medicare healthcare curtailed at all over the seven months.
Every U.S. soldier will get paid and the Defense Department will be allowed to shift funds to ensure that combat operations and “critical military readiness capabilities” are not degraded, according to the Obama administration.”
If government employees had the same salaries, benefits etc as private workers, there would be fewer government employees (and you can look up that comment about government employee total compensation vs private employees).
Correction, it is NOT a CUT. It is a reduction in the rate of growth (you remember baseline budgeting). Even after the sequester is fully implemented, we will end up spending more in 2013 than we did in 2012. It is NOT a freaking CUT!!!
We have been through many of these “if we don’t do this, so and so is gonna be cut, people will be furloughed, etc.” routines. It will be the same here.
Besides, and I’d like to tell you that at least I had the foresight to look at his member page that says “I’d rather be fishing!” before I posted what I did.
Next time you go thru the TSA checkpoint, instead of three employees siting in the back eating donuts, there will only be two back there. The other one will be on furlough.
Opinion February 20, 2013
Obama Says The Sky Is Falling And It Cant Get Up
Unless he gets another tax hike—like just happened a month agoObama claims were all in danger.
Not only does President Obama claim the sky is falling, he also says it cant get up.
Unless he gets another tax hikelike just happened a month agoObama claims were all in danger.
While still pretending that hes cut federal spending dramaticallywhich is totally falseObama says hundreds of thousands of Americans will lose their health care access.
He claims tens of thousands of parents will lose childcare.
He claims FBI agents will be laid off and criminals will be turned loose. And Obama says theres no escape, because air traffic control will be a mess.
There are better ways to handle scheduled slowdowns in spendingthe sequesterObama ignores them and now hes trying to make public safety and our military take the hit.
The question is not whether the sky is falling, but whether we are going to fall for Obamas scare tactics.
From The Heritage Foundation, Im Ernest Istook.
Indeed, what Obama is doing, on a larger scale, is just like how PBS puts a gun to the head of Big Bird everytime their public funding is threatened.
Obama really needs to be called out on how the cuts are going against essential services, not bloat.
Yep. We called them DWOP's (Days WithOut Pay). No re-compensation. I did get severance pay though when my job was completely eliminated.
I see only one good thing in this. All of those Government Affirmative action loads that Obama hired are going to be squealing like pigs.
Since there are NO cuts in Federal spending on a year to year basis, why would there be ANY reduction in the workforce of those Federally employed?
Something is being covered up here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW, what is the difference between Spendaholic Obamas Balanced Approach and the failed policy of Tax and Spend?
Hey let’s remember this sequestation plan is Obama’s> The vast majority of the fed workers who might lose a few days work are Obama voters.
Uh NO, the “Vast””Majority” of “Federal Workers” that are/will be affected by this one are DoD.
You just blasted Utah as being unworthy of statehood and you expect me to feel sorry for your budgetary plight! Sorry, you look to be an ex military retiree who has been double dipping the rest of us. Just wish, at the end of the day, you don’t get paid for “not working.” Life must be tough having to live on your Navy pension and your DoD salary! It just sucks to be you!
Don’t feel like the lone ranger.
Your brothers and sisters at DHS are getting furlough days as well.
I'm extremely disappointed with the 4-stars in the Pentagon. They're showing no leadership at all, steppin' to the tune of the politicians. IMHO, the Pentagon could cut the # of generals by at least half, and not miss a beat.
“Your brothers and sisters at DHS are getting furlough days as well.”
You mean “fellow hogs at the government trough” don’t you? We should never have created the DHS in the first place. They should go get a meaningful job in the private sector and quit living off their fellow citizens!
I don’t resume to speak for US Navy Vet; however, if you read his very first post it’s clear he’s not expecting anyone to feel sorry for his budgetary plight.