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US Department of Justice to join lawsuit against Lance Armstrong
USNews ^ | Feb 22, 2013 | Pete Williams

Posted on 02/22/2013 1:03:27 PM PST by Baynative

The Justice Department will notify a federal court Friday that it is joining one of his former racing teammates in suing him for using performance-enhancing drugs during the Tour de France, legal sources told NBC News.

The government is signing on to a lawsuit filed two years ago by Floyd Landis, one of Armstrong's former Tour de France teammates who has already admitted cheating. Among its claims: Landis saw Armstrong store and then re-inject his own blood to boost his performance, and Armstrong twice gave Landis banned hormones before races.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armstrong; doj; dojsuesarmstrong; justusdept; lance; lancearmstrong; lancearmstrongsued; ped; usps
This is going to be interesting. The DoJ is joining on behalf of the US Postal Service. But, USPS clearly got their money's worth during their sponsorship. So how are they going to prove some sort of damage or contract violation?

It seems as though their contracts would have had to specify him staying free of PEDs while representing them.

1 posted on 02/22/2013 1:03:34 PM PST by Baynative
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To: nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; glorgau; Cecily; ..

Bike Ping

2 posted on 02/22/2013 1:05:23 PM PST by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Baynative

I agree...where is the damage. Of course, if Holder assigns a battery of his crack prosecutors on this, they will have less time to look into voting fraud and treasonous sales of technology to China.


3 posted on 02/22/2013 1:07:38 PM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Baynative

And yet John Corzine skates. No wonder they call it the Just-us department.


4 posted on 02/22/2013 1:08:42 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: Baynative

Let’s ban sports. They get kids, whip them up into a frenzy, feed them drugs and etc. It’s not healthy.


5 posted on 02/22/2013 1:13:14 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Baynative
Wow, Heydrich Holder sueing someone who is not trying to protect these United States' Constitution!!!

Will conders never wease!

6 posted on 02/22/2013 1:14:00 PM PST by Happy Rain (America is red hot!!! Obama ain't doodly squat!!!)
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To: Baynative

How about a law suit against gun running to drug lords?


7 posted on 02/22/2013 1:15:57 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Baynative
This is definitely something the DOJ of a nation deep in the hole should concentrate its resources on.
Never mind terrorists and millions of illegals, let's pile onto ONE GUY.

8 posted on 02/22/2013 1:39:36 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Baynative
Kick "em when their up.

Kick 'em when their down.

9 posted on 02/22/2013 1:41:27 PM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: Baynative

How about collecting all the “loans” from the wind/solar companies the Energy Department made first? I’d hazard a guess that the total dollar value outstanding is much more substantial than what Armstrong received.


10 posted on 02/22/2013 1:55:57 PM PST by dontBSme
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To: Baynative

It’s bread-and-circuses for the political class.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 2:11:23 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Baynative

It seems as though their contracts would have had to specify him staying free of PEDs while representing them.

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My guess is that it did. I’d be surprised if they didn’t have such a clause in the contract. Lance is on the way down. It’s just a matter of how long it takes to get to the bottom. I suspect that he’ll be penniless when this is all over unless he’s got some placed in offshore accounts.


12 posted on 02/22/2013 2:42:26 PM PST by deport
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To: Baynative

They will crucify Lance. And, honestly, he has it coming. If he is smart, he as a few million $$ stashed away in a Swiss bank account.


13 posted on 02/22/2013 2:44:30 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Baynative

Why does Floyd get to sue Armstrong because he saw him do something.

Can I sue Floyd Landis because I watched the Tour De France and he ruined it for me by using drugs?

Because I think I have a better claim than he does. Is he suing because he wasn’t as good at doing drugs as Armstrong? That’s two things Floyd wasn’t as good as Lance doing.


14 posted on 02/22/2013 4:58:59 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

And yet John Corzine skates. No wonder they call it the Just-us department.


So true.

Lance hurt our spirit.....Corzine hurt people in their pockets...... and probably
in some cases their livelihood, and retirements


15 posted on 02/22/2013 5:20:16 PM PST by patriotspride
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

And yet John Corzine skates. No wonder they call it the Just-us department.


So true.

Lance hurt our spirit.....Corzine hurt people in their pockets...... and probably
in some cases their livelihood, and retirements


16 posted on 02/22/2013 5:20:25 PM PST by patriotspride
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To: Baynative
Armstrong needs to be sued by everyone who he ruined along the way.

That said, the Obama administration's flaky who politically dropped the Armstrong investigation needs to be brought to justice.

17 posted on 02/22/2013 5:36:11 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Vision

All caps for this :

WHERE DID ALL THE SLOBBERING LANCEBOTS DISAPPEAR TO !?

Pfft~ and they had the guts to call themselves “freepers” when in reality they were acting exactly like the kooks who think OJ didn`t do it and is still innocent.


18 posted on 02/22/2013 5:48:04 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Baynative
The DOJ now getting involved in the actions of a bicycle racer???

I've always thought that one had to be found in posession of a drug in order to be charged. Guess the rules are changing........

19 posted on 02/22/2013 5:55:28 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Vision
"Armstrong needs to be sued by everyone who he ruined along the way."

That's why I say this is going to be interesting. The question of damages is answered [in court] by proving you've been injured. Everyone associated with Lance's astonishing career seems to have done quite well ...except Landis, maybe.

20 posted on 02/22/2013 5:55:37 PM PST by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: rbg81
They will crucify Lance. And, honestly, he has it coming

I would agree with you but only if every top ten racer and every stage winner that competed with him during all his races were given the same in depth scrutiny and testing as Armstrong endured.......

That's a fair request isn't it?

21 posted on 02/22/2013 6:02:17 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Baynative
Ever read Anderson's story?

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/biking/road-biking/My-Life-With-Lance-Armstrong.html

22 posted on 02/22/2013 6:10:17 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Para-Ord.45
I was a slobbering Lancebot. I believe(d) that in his remarkable recovery from cancer he lost body mass that had always limited his climbing ability. AS a big man, I had to give up a lot when I raced because I was unable to compete in the hills. So, I was able to understand that difference.

When allegations came up, the simple truth was that he had passed tests even though he was tested more than anyone. Sure, we can now say he had a good technique of masking. But in all matters of criminality people should be assumed innocent until proven guilty.

23 posted on 02/22/2013 6:18:26 PM PST by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Hot Tabasco; Slings and Arrows; Baynative; Vision

If the Tour is the greatest athletic competition in the world, which I am rather inclined to believe it is (can you name another?)there is one athlete who stands out as the greatest, Lance. And in order to go on about “he had it coming” you have to convince me that the likes of Merckx, Anquetil, Hineault, Indurain, and frankly even LeMond did not use drugs AND lie about it. The more I think about all this the more I am convinced Lance was SO good at this doping crap he took everyone’s cross.


24 posted on 02/22/2013 7:03:46 PM PST by golux
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To: Baynative

I am an athelete and have been one for years, I have taken all kinds of legal but banned in sports substances. I feel they make be better, some have made me permantly better. I dont understand public outrage, I dont usderstand the legal knee jerk reactions. Lyle Alzato’s death was part of the anti-roids/dont do drugs kids stuff from the Nancy Regan era 30 years ago. The anti-aging, HGH stuff 100% of hollywood is on and has been on for the last 10 years. Look at the Governator, should the justice department sue him too cuz he also cheated on his wife and did enough pump to gag a donkey? Guys are big,bad,mean and fast before they take them...We do it because we want more, its the American way. We need to be honest with ourselves and if it was a stupid byclcist, it would have been somebody else.
Play hard and leave it all on the field.

We have forgot as Americans the George Washington story about the cherry tree....Nowaday you tell the truth and weasels and homosexual jump out of the wood work to take a peice of you, and in todays values NEVER show anger.

We have become weak and stupid as peoples.


25 posted on 02/22/2013 7:13:47 PM PST by 3clean
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To: Baynative; mickie; flaglady47
The Obama Injustice Department is going after Lance because he personifies the monied capitalist who made something of himself.

In Obama's marxist society, if you raise your head higher than the egalitarian masses, they'll chop it off as soon as they can.

Leni

26 posted on 02/22/2013 7:15:49 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Para-Ord.45
...and they had the guts to call themselves “freepers”

You sound like the sort of fellow who understands the dynamic nature of passing relationships and minor personal loyalties as human frailty and its consequences contrast with transhistorical truths and notions of justice and righteousness. It's just this kind of perspective we're looking for in our gang. We meet every day, all day, alone or in groups, and think of all the ways in which others are inferior and therefore less deserving of membership into almost anything we can think up. Consider joining up!


27 posted on 02/22/2013 7:20:07 PM PST by golux
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To: Para-Ord.45

It didn’t take long. The Justice Dept. campaign is one thing, of course, but the slobbering Lancebots will use it only as an excuse to worship their hero, the “greatest athlete ever!!!”. Which reminds me of the posts I read when Gerry Marsden of the Gerry and the Pacemakers passed away stating that Gerry was the greatest singer ever and his music would live forever. Shore thing, Shirley!


28 posted on 02/22/2013 7:20:50 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: golux

Your theory makes sense until you understand that EPO, the drug which changed the sport and made Armstrong a unrelenting superstar, was only around in the late eighties or early nineties.


29 posted on 02/22/2013 8:01:11 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: 3clean
"We have become weak and stupid as peoples."

Roger that!

30 posted on 02/22/2013 10:13:32 PM PST by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Vision

So if I go along with your notion that EPO is the only PED worth paying attention to - which I don’t, and wouldn’t - you still posit that my “theory” makes no sense because... There are no champions after - Pedro Delgado? Indurain? Love ya Vision but give me a break.


31 posted on 02/23/2013 1:38:36 AM PST by golux
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To: Vision; Baynative
Ever read Anderson's story?

I read it and saw it as being written by a vindictive bike mechanic who was pissed off because Armstrong didn't buy him a bicycle shop.......

Terms like "protection racket", blackmail and extortion immediately come to mind.......

32 posted on 02/23/2013 3:13:34 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: golux
Read Hamilton's book. It goes into the “era” of EPO and it's effect on the Tour- such as increasing the average speed of the peloton by 5km for a few years.
33 posted on 02/23/2013 4:31:59 AM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Hot Tabasco
Well, given the come clean nature of the article, that we know know he was right about the doping, and the similarities between his story and Hamilton's...I believe him.
34 posted on 02/23/2013 4:36:07 AM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: golux

Irrational apotheosis, suspension of rational cognitive abilities, creating alternate realities, is simply not categorized as a minor human flaw making everyone inferior .

Berating cult of personality is honourable.

Don`t like it, the DU may be the perfect site for you.


35 posted on 02/23/2013 9:58:18 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: 3clean

Sylvester Stallone had to admit he uses HGH since he got caught trying to import huge quantities. Just by looking at him it obvious.

But, I really don`t care about personal narcissism. It`s when frauds to try pretend the won fair and square, make tens of millions in income, based on doping and cheating.

Cheat to win, F U Lance.


36 posted on 02/23/2013 10:02:20 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: 3clean
I have always said that sports is as much entertainment as it is athletics and there should be no limits on what competitors can use because there is no place to draw the line. Like with the entertainers seen on stage and screen who are all cut, clipped, air brushed and shot full of silicone - fans want to see something special. So, give them what they want.

At some point maybe a competitive union of drug free performers will start up and the public can decide what they favor. But, judging from the success of pro wrestling I doubt straight will win out over enhancement.

In my opinion it all went to hell when the Olympic committee was afraid to stand up for amateurs and opened the door to anything goes with the pro athletes. As US hockey team coach Herb Brooks said after our boys beat the Russians and won gold at Lake Placid, "Now that we have dream teams, we have no more dreams"

37 posted on 02/23/2013 11:44:38 AM PST by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: 3clean

BTW- Welcome to Free Republic. If you are interested in cycling (beyond this issue) let me know and I’ll put you on our ping list. We have a joyous time during le Tour what with all the cyclists that join in and the people who tell us cycling is not a sport..


38 posted on 02/23/2013 12:17:35 PM PST by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I understand the part about how I believed in Lance and that makes me a left-winger, but with the rest, you’re too smart for me.


39 posted on 02/24/2013 12:38:25 AM PST by golux
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To: Baynative; Vision
By the way, I was in a bike shop earlier this week and saw a vintage set of profile bars... Grey with white lettering - PROFILE - on the side. "How much for those?" "Ahh, we'll give 'em to ya." Just installed them about, oh, 5 minutes ago on my old Bottecchia TSX. (new wheels though, Mavic Open Pros - built to ride hard...) So I'm gonna kick it old school Champs Elysees style on my next ride. (No splits.) LOL
40 posted on 02/24/2013 5:52:33 AM PST by golux
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To: golux

Cognative dissonance doesn`t discriminate based on individual philosophy so let me say it again:

Irrational apotheosis, suspension of rational cognitive abilities, creating alternate realities, is simply not categorized as a minor human flaw making everyone inferior .

Berating cult of personality is honourable.


41 posted on 02/24/2013 10:15:59 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
"Berating cult of personality is honourable." This is a sentence, presumably, which means that it is honorable of you to take a vocal stand against "cults of personality," in this case, meaning those who supported and believed in Lance. Is that right?

And the other bit: "Irrational apotheosis, suspension of rational cognitive abilities, creating alternate realities, is simply not categorized as a minor human flaw making everyone inferior..." Does this mean that it is Lance who has these qualities, some of which I understand, or is it those who support Lance? Do you really mean that those who believed in Lance suspend rational cognition, create alternate realities, and are therefore somehow unfit to 'call themselves,' as you say, Freepers?

I'm sorry but you have such a powerful command of the English language that I just can't figure out what you're talking about.
42 posted on 02/25/2013 12:43:23 AM PST by golux
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