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Cardinal Dolan finds common ground with Obama on guns
Catholic News Agency ^ | Feb 20, 2013 / 02:00 am | CNS

Posted on 02/22/2013 3:08:52 PM PST by haffast

Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York highlighted President Barack Obama's “call for sensible steps on gun control,” noting that it is an area of agreement for the two leaders.

“I found myself nodding in agreement when the President said, '….Overwhelming majorities of Americans – Americans who believe in the Second Amendment – have come together around common-sense reform, like background checks that will make it harder for criminals to get their hands on a gun,'” the cardinal said.

In a Feb. 15 post on his blog, “The Gospel in the Digital Age,” he explained that he was “very much in favor” of legislation passed by New York last month that constituted “the most comprehensive gun control bill in the country.”

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“The Holy See has continuously been a strong voice in opposition to international arms trading, the world’s version of gun control,” he noted.

In addition, he pointed out that the U.S. bishops have “for decades supported measures to get handguns off the streets, and to ban assault weapons.”

He reminded his readers that he is no expert on the particulars of gun control legislation, but he maintained that “there can be no denying that, in the wake of Newtown, Aurora, Blacksburg, Tucson, Columbine, and almost countless other horrific and senseless deaths by guns, that something must be done.”

Gun control is “part of building a Culture of Life,” the cardinal explained, “of doing what we can to protect and defend human life.”

He said easy access to guns “has contributed towards a Culture of Death, where human life and dignity are cheapened by the threat of violence.”

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“I have a long list of things to pray for this Lent,” Cardinal Dolan said. “Asking God’s help that our elected representatives in Washington and in state houses across the country have the courage and the wisdom to pass meaningful and effective gun control bills, will certainly have a prominent place in those prayers.”

Apologia for Church in Vatican Radio gun rights attack rings hollow
Eaminer.com ^ | January 22, 2013 | David Codrea

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2981061/posts?page=1

Cardinal Dolan will be heading to Rome to elect a new pope.

1 posted on 02/22/2013 3:09:02 PM PST by haffast
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To: haffast

Has Cardinal Dolan been alive long enough to remember what happened to a bunch of Jews in Europe almost a century ago, or does he just not care?


2 posted on 02/22/2013 3:11:45 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: haffast

Yes, yes, Cardinal.
Jesus himself always tried to stay politically active and pass laws /s

PS
BTW ALL, FR is acting wonky again here.


3 posted on 02/22/2013 3:15:51 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: elkfersupper

Dolan is an apparent mental midget who would ask the great Gov to ban stones and strips of cloth.

I say we ban the jawbone of an ass /S


4 posted on 02/22/2013 3:18:40 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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- “Sell your robe and buy a sword.”

I smell a bailout/sellout: :

- “Sell your soul and give me all your money.”

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5 posted on 02/22/2013 3:23:47 PM PST by devolve ( -------- -- --It is not where Obama was born that is the problem - it is where he*s living now--)
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To: haffast
Cardinal Dolan, do you understand communism? He wants to pick and choose what the government can ban, control and command. Take our guns, but leave church hospitals alone! Doesn't he realize that if you offer them a bite they take the whole enchilada?

Either he is a totalitarian marxist or a dumbass. This sh!teater better not be elected pope.

6 posted on 02/22/2013 3:25:45 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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No surprise. The US Bishops lean heavily toward social justice.


7 posted on 02/22/2013 3:29:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: haffast

He appears to be sadly naive in regard to the political agenda at the root of this (in the same way various bishops were gullibly in favor of Obamacare before the actual impact of the law on the Church became apparent). Amazing how many churchmen still fail to see the connection between creeping government control, socialism and the consequent loss of religious freedom.

Frankly, I wish bishops would keep a low profile in regard to topics unrelated to Church teaching. Often they do more harm than good when they opine on political matters.


8 posted on 02/22/2013 3:42:02 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: elkfersupper

He probably doesn’t want boys to be able to protect themselves


9 posted on 02/22/2013 3:45:32 PM PST by nixonsnose (you never know how much pee splatters until you are standing at the urinal in flip flops.)
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To: haffast

Is there a good reason this freak has not been removed from his position? Is this one of those jobs where you can’t be fired?

Just toss him out and be done with it.


10 posted on 02/22/2013 3:47:16 PM PST by soycd
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I am leaning toward compassionate dumb ass.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 4:01:13 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: haffast

Just proves that all the Catholic Bishops/Cardinals are crypto-Marxists.


12 posted on 02/22/2013 4:16:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: mylife

Hey mylife! I’ve gotta post and run but had to tell you, I bought a sweet little .22 the other day, a Marlin XT-22.
The place was packed! Americans voting with their wallets?
Great to have FR back, huh?

Here’s to those who wish us well,
Those who don’t can go to ... DU/


13 posted on 02/22/2013 4:20:37 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: haffast

I have found no common ground at all with Barack Hussein Obama.

Obama wants to tax the rich at a higher rate for “fairness” even if that means less tax collected. I feel no envy toward those with higher incomes than my own.

Obama wants to compel religious people to violate their religious values by forcing them to pay for abortions for employees, in violation of the First Amendment and of the most fundamental of human rights. I feel respect for the sincere religious beliefs of others so long as those believers do not actively interfere with the rights of others.

Obama wants to punish success and reward failure, transferring wealth from those who produce to those who choose not to be productive “when you spread the wealth around . . .” I believe that those who produce wealth help others by virtue of their success and generate more jobs when they spend the wealth they have created, and even if they didn’t help others, it’s still their wealth and not mine.

Obama wants a federal takeover of our medical system. I believe that freedom is always more efficient than a command economy.

Obama wants to “end” the wars in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and on terror. I want to win those wars so that they end in victory and not defeat.

I sometimes think that if I agreed with Obama on even one issue, I would automatically reconsider my position. To agree with someone who is universally wrong and usually evil would cause a great deal of concern. I don’t know if I would change my opinion if I found Obama agreeing with me - it’s never happened in more than four terrible years of watching him destroy my country.


14 posted on 02/22/2013 4:24:45 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: tumblindice
Hi there!
Did you find some ammo?

I want that Mossberg MVP

Sure wish they would make that in .308 using FAL mags

15 posted on 02/22/2013 4:25:43 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: elkfersupper

I’m here in NYC/NJ and can tell you I never liked this ambitious, oily priest. Never! The day Cardinal O’Connor died was a sad day for me.


16 posted on 02/22/2013 4:27:50 PM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: haffast; elkfersupper

If he doesn’t remember, at least he could read some history.

Here is a new thread featuring a new essay and YouTube video titled “Democide: Socialism, Tyranny, Guns and Freedom.” The video has had 12,000 views in the first two days.

I helped to produce the video. It’s an effort to lift the debate from Newtown “small ball” to the big leagues of state democide, where these efforts at “reasonable and commonsense” gun control laws always lead to death by the million in the end.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2990161/posts?page=42


17 posted on 02/22/2013 4:44:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: haffast

Sorry,Cardinal...this is one thing I won’t be rendering unto Caesar.


18 posted on 02/22/2013 4:50:16 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: All

It’s merely his opinion on a political issue. It is not a teaching on faith or morals and is not binding for Catholics.

His rationale is not well thought out and shows why clergy should stick to issues of faith and morals...such as saving souls and abortion.


19 posted on 02/22/2013 4:51:52 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: haffast
Sorry Cardinal Dolan, I find NO common ground with someone who wants to enslave me.

5.56mm

20 posted on 02/22/2013 4:59:06 PM PST by M Kehoe
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