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“I have a long list of things to pray for this Lent,” Cardinal Dolan said. “Asking God’s help that our elected representatives in Washington and in state houses across the country have the courage and the wisdom to pass meaningful and effective gun control bills, will certainly have a prominent place in those prayers.”

Apologia for Church in Vatican Radio gun rights attack rings hollow
Eaminer.com ^ | January 22, 2013 | David Codrea

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2981061/posts?page=1

Cardinal Dolan will be heading to Rome to elect a new pope.

1 posted on 02/22/2013 3:09:02 PM PST by haffast
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To: haffast

Yes, yes, Cardinal.
Jesus himself always tried to stay politically active and pass laws /s

PS
BTW ALL, FR is acting wonky again here.


3 posted on 02/22/2013 3:15:51 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: haffast

He appears to be sadly naive in regard to the political agenda at the root of this (in the same way various bishops were gullibly in favor of Obamacare before the actual impact of the law on the Church became apparent). Amazing how many churchmen still fail to see the connection between creeping government control, socialism and the consequent loss of religious freedom.

Frankly, I wish bishops would keep a low profile in regard to topics unrelated to Church teaching. Often they do more harm than good when they opine on political matters.


8 posted on 02/22/2013 3:42:02 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: haffast

Is there a good reason this freak has not been removed from his position? Is this one of those jobs where you can’t be fired?

Just toss him out and be done with it.


10 posted on 02/22/2013 3:47:16 PM PST by soycd
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To: haffast

Just proves that all the Catholic Bishops/Cardinals are crypto-Marxists.


12 posted on 02/22/2013 4:16:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: haffast

I have found no common ground at all with Barack Hussein Obama.

Obama wants to tax the rich at a higher rate for “fairness” even if that means less tax collected. I feel no envy toward those with higher incomes than my own.

Obama wants to compel religious people to violate their religious values by forcing them to pay for abortions for employees, in violation of the First Amendment and of the most fundamental of human rights. I feel respect for the sincere religious beliefs of others so long as those believers do not actively interfere with the rights of others.

Obama wants to punish success and reward failure, transferring wealth from those who produce to those who choose not to be productive “when you spread the wealth around . . .” I believe that those who produce wealth help others by virtue of their success and generate more jobs when they spend the wealth they have created, and even if they didn’t help others, it’s still their wealth and not mine.

Obama wants a federal takeover of our medical system. I believe that freedom is always more efficient than a command economy.

Obama wants to “end” the wars in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and on terror. I want to win those wars so that they end in victory and not defeat.

I sometimes think that if I agreed with Obama on even one issue, I would automatically reconsider my position. To agree with someone who is universally wrong and usually evil would cause a great deal of concern. I don’t know if I would change my opinion if I found Obama agreeing with me - it’s never happened in more than four terrible years of watching him destroy my country.


14 posted on 02/22/2013 4:24:45 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: haffast; elkfersupper

If he doesn’t remember, at least he could read some history.

Here is a new thread featuring a new essay and YouTube video titled “Democide: Socialism, Tyranny, Guns and Freedom.” The video has had 12,000 views in the first two days.

I helped to produce the video. It’s an effort to lift the debate from Newtown “small ball” to the big leagues of state democide, where these efforts at “reasonable and commonsense” gun control laws always lead to death by the million in the end.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2990161/posts?page=42


17 posted on 02/22/2013 4:44:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: haffast

Sorry,Cardinal...this is one thing I won’t be rendering unto Caesar.


18 posted on 02/22/2013 4:50:16 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: haffast
Sorry Cardinal Dolan, I find NO common ground with someone who wants to enslave me.

5.56mm

20 posted on 02/22/2013 4:59:06 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: haffast

Yeah, well Cardinal Dolan, that assclown will force you to abort babies...and keep you from teaching that sodomy is a sin....

So you better consider thanking God there IS a second amendment.


22 posted on 02/22/2013 5:27:51 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: haffast

The left has learned from the Soviet experience. This time they are simply going to co-opt the church and make it their willing handmaiden.


23 posted on 02/22/2013 5:30:18 PM PST by Trod Upon (The Second Amendment acknowledges our inherent right to revolt if tyrannized.)
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To: haffast

With all respect to my freedom loving Catholic brothers in Christ...

As a radical Calvinist....why should I give a rats testicle what a capon priest for a clown costumed gang of rascals and thieves thinks? In the old world, these guys’ predecessors tried to burn my fathers at the stake.

But oh wait. My grandaddies were armed with BOTH the sword and the Word. Christian liberty and political liberty then ensued quite beyond the control of kings and cardinals.

The Catholic church as an organization has NEVER been an advocate for true liberty. Quite the opposite. Blind ignorant obedience to Pope and to Caesar has been their demand since Constantine.

Had the Catholic hierarchy caught and burned Luther and the German landsmen who supported him, we would still be bending knee to men, buying indulgences, hearing Latin masses memorized by illiterate priests, and if caught with a heretic common vernacular language Bible, would be officially damned then flayed.

Let Mr. Dolan lick what boots he may....and screw him.

Any Catholic that stands for liberty and arms is a brother. Any who do not....a foe. It is a duty we owe to our fathers and our God.


24 posted on 02/22/2013 5:42:13 PM PST by Lowell1775
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To: haffast

Just because he hears confessions that doesn’t mean criminals are going to confess gun ownership to the state.
His eminence better lay off the Absolut-ion..


25 posted on 02/22/2013 5:49:02 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: haffast

Hence why i left the catholic church a long time ago.


30 posted on 02/22/2013 7:18:21 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: haffast
This guy sounds almost as bad as that Michael Pfleger joker in Chicago.


33 posted on 02/22/2013 10:18:06 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: haffast

Another example of what you get when “religious leaders” stray from the calling and get involved in unrelated areas - support for the Godless side of the aisle that they can subjugate the believers. One of the main reasons I decided to eschew religion and to go non-denominational and stick with Biblical teachings undiluted by those who lounge in a life of ease in their religious “callings”.


35 posted on 02/23/2013 5:03:48 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: haffast; Mrs. Don-o
He reminded his readers that he is no expert on the particulars of gun control legislation, but he maintained that “there can be no denying that, in the wake of Newtown, Aurora, Blacksburg, Tucson, Columbine, and almost countless other horrific and senseless deaths by guns, that something must be done.”

I would suggest that the Bishop do something that lies in his own competence - deny the Sacraments to pro-abort politicians. Ratifying anything that Obama says make Dolan look silly. He needs to fight the fire that's closest to him - the broad based and relentless attack underway against First Amendment religious liberty.

48 posted on 02/25/2013 6:04:43 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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