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To: butterdezillion; theothercheek; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; left that other site; Cicero; ...
The taboo subjects started with Obama’s eligibility.

You can say that with respect to Obama's presidential run, but you can also view Obama and his administration as a continuation in a way of the Clinton era. There happen to have been quite a number of old Clintonistas who moved into big jobs in the Obama years, led by HRC and including names like Eric Holder, Rahm Emanuel, and Leon Panetta for starters.

Back in the Clinton days, there were taboo lists as well. The leading taboo subject was the unexplained deaths of dozens of individuals who seem to have crossed paths with him or her. Remember Vince Foster and Ron Brown, for example?

46 posted on 02/23/2013 12:51:31 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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Yeah, there have always been taboo lists, and I do remember well Vince Foster and Ron Brown; it was realizing how badly Ken Starr botched his investigation, and how much cooperation there was between both parties in order to botch that, which woke me up about how crooked the whole system is.

Do you remember - did Fox stay mum on all that stuff too? I’m trying to remember where I got my information from when I started checking out those stories. When they happened I was still in MN and didn’t have internet so I knew nothing about it at the time it happened, but investigated those details when I did get internet access, about the same time that I was investigating Able Danger. Seems like the online forums were different then, though. There was a Fox forum. I remember starting forum life then, when we were waiting to see who won the 2000 election. And then 9-11 hit and the Fox forum went down; there were some Delphi forums...

I’ve forgotten so much. Probably a blessing. I think it might have been a lot easier to keep things quiet in the days before there were blogs and so many different forums. Who was talking about Vince Foster and Ron Brown at the time that those things happened, and what media exposed the questions?

Somebody help me out on that, because I don’t remember.


48 posted on 02/23/2013 2:03:03 PM PST by butterdezillion
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I know during Clinton’s years, though, there was the Thompson Report and the Cox Report - one on Chinese front companies being used to get our national security secrets, and the other on Chinese campaign money being used to get access to the White House. Both investigations ended up recommending a federal investigation and Janet Reno just said no. It was actually when Reno said no to investigating front companies that Able Danger was begun. If the DOD wasn’t going to protect our national security secrets, then the military was going to take steps. My memory is dim, but I think that was kinda done under the radar from SecDef Perry. I know it was nixed when Able Danger found suspicious connections between Perry, the Chinese military leader’s wife and her company, and mutual contacts at Stanford University. Later it was found that those connections SHOULD have been investigated because a Stanford colleague had put Perry in contact with the military leader’s wife, resulting in an illegal sale of encrypted satellite technology from SecDef Perry’s company to the front company owned by the Chinese military leader’s wife. The exact kind of thing that the Cox? Report had said should be investigated.

Anyway, as I remember it, the more serious selling out of the country was actually the subject of CONGRESSIONAL investigations, which then recommended Justice Dept investigations, which Reno kept from coming to anything.

But it seems like we had a Congress that at least had some stones, compared to now. Somebody refresh my memory if I’m remembering wrong. That was a totally different time in my life.


49 posted on 02/23/2013 2:12:38 PM PST by butterdezillion
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They started with just saying his full name. Then his eligibility.

Why do I feel like reality is imitating art? What is Prince Joffry doing in the Oval Office? Why is Tywin Lannister funding all these front groups? Will they behead Ned Stark? Any dwarfs in the cabinet?


52 posted on 02/23/2013 3:57:16 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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