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Rand Paul Introduces Sequester Bill
http://www.nationalreview.com ^ | Rand Paul Introduces Sequester Bill By Andrew Stiles February 22, 2013 | Andrew Stiles

Posted on 02/23/2013 5:52:08 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion

 

Not only is Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) calling out the Obama administration’s “dishonest” doom-mongering on the sequester, he also put forward his own plan, released today, to replace the impending cuts with alternative savings, and to do so “without layoffs,” according to a release from the senator’s office.

Paul’s bill would reduce federal spending by more than $85 billion annually by directing the government to:

Stop Hiring New Federal Employees ($6.5 billion per year)

More than 60,000 people left the federal workforce in 2011. This provision would end the practice of hiring new employees to replace them.

Bring Federal-Employee Pay in Line with Private Jobs ($32 billion per year)

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that federal-employee compensation is 16 percent higher compared with the private sector. This provision would reduce federal salaries to a more commensurate level.

Reduce Federal-Employee Travel by 25 Percent ($2.25 billion per year)

The federal government spends about $9 billion on travel, according to the General Services Administration, which ironically was the center of a recent scandal for its exorbitant spending on travel and conference costs. Paul bill’s would rein in such expenses. 

Focus Military Research on Military Needs ($6 billion per year)

Paul’s office cites research from Senator Tom Coburn (R., Okla.), which found that the Defense Department spent $6 billion on research that had little or nothing to do with military needs.

Require Competitive Bidding for Government Contracts ($19 billion per year)

This provision would repeal prevailing-wage requirements under which employees are often paid higher wages to work on federal projects, and end the practice of awarding federal contracts without a competitive bidding process to ensure the government is contracting work at the lowest price possible.

Cut 50 Percent of Foreign Aid ($20 billion per year)

It is consistently one of the only portions of the budget Americans actually want to cut.


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1 posted on 02/23/2013 5:52:12 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Now that’s what I’m talkin’ ‘bout

Sanity.......


2 posted on 02/23/2013 5:56:57 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

It’s a start....but MSNBC will call Sen. Paul a fearmongering foolhardy cutting racist homophobe and the LoFos will believe it.


3 posted on 02/23/2013 5:56:57 AM PST by Shady (Libya shows us how Americans rate...)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

DOA in the Senate.


4 posted on 02/23/2013 5:58:39 AM PST by HChampagne
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Looks good to me.


5 posted on 02/23/2013 6:04:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

” Reduce Federal-Employee Travel by 25 Percent ($2.25 billion per year)”

***

Will the Obamas’ excursions be included?


6 posted on 02/23/2013 6:08:39 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I’m not opposed to Rand’s plan, but would only note that reducing salaries by 16% is roughly equivalent to the sequester plan of laying off the DOD workforce one day a week. So, from a fed employee perspective, SEN Paul would basically furlough their salary one day a week, but require them to show up for work anyway.

Just sayin’


7 posted on 02/23/2013 6:10:24 AM PST by XEHRpa
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To: BarnacleCenturion

good ideas, sequester bill from Rand Paul


8 posted on 02/23/2013 6:14:19 AM PST by quintr
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To: fatnotlazy

Will the Obamas’ excursions be included?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahhahha Yeah LMAO Fat chance of that.

Ground Air Force One and Wookie One and save another Billion.


9 posted on 02/23/2013 6:17:48 AM PST by Venturer
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To: XEHRpa

His bill refuses to accept the premise that they ought to earn 16% more than private sector workers in similar positions.

In your calculations, you don’t mention that.

Just goes to show you that anyone can “prove” anything depending on their angle, their POV, their agenda.

His entire point was, don’t let federal workers earn 16% more than the people who work for private entities who are being taxed (and the rest is borrowed) to pay their salaries.


10 posted on 02/23/2013 6:21:33 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Let’s DO it!


11 posted on 02/23/2013 6:25:27 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: XEHRpa
So, from a fed employee perspective, SEN Paul would basically furlough their salary one day a week, but require them to show up for work anyway. Just sayin’

So, from a private sector person's perspective, GOOD!!!!!!!! And BTW, what WAS your point?

12 posted on 02/23/2013 6:28:02 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Like his father, Rand makes more sense than most politicians...certainly most all Bureaucrats in general. Copy those cuts and send them to your Board of Supervisors, College Regents, City Fathers....it isn’t just Washington that is spending way too much.............


13 posted on 02/23/2013 6:28:06 AM PST by yoe
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To: BarnacleCenturion

A good start.


14 posted on 02/23/2013 6:41:09 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: XEHRpa

I can’t speak to the Federal bureaucracy but have worked in several NC state offices.
I’ll bet most State offices could cut at least 20% of the staff and still be overstaffed.


15 posted on 02/23/2013 6:42:09 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

This is what leaders do. Where is the House co-sponsor? This is how you expose Obama and the senate and house democrats for the obstructionist reprobates they are. Excellent way to position a much needed restraining order against Obama and begin preparations for the mid-terms.

Will Boehner respond?


16 posted on 02/23/2013 6:44:34 AM PST by untwist
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To: Venturer
Will the Obamas’ excursions be included?

Doncha know that would be racist? The WH clown is undoing all the evil this country has brought against "HIS AND HOLDER's" people. /s
17 posted on 02/23/2013 6:55:31 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Damned good bill, Rand. I love the no more Federal employees idea. Geez, that’s gotten out of hand!


18 posted on 02/23/2013 6:58:59 AM PST by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: txrangerette
His entire point was, don’t let federal workers earn 16% more than the people who work for private entities

I'm not a government employee. The problem with these salary comparisons is they don't compare job to job. Government doesn't have many burger flippers.

19 posted on 02/23/2013 7:05:17 AM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: XEHRpa
So, from a fed employee perspective, SEN Paul would basically furlough their salary one day a week, but require them to show up for work anyway.

Exactly. Treat fed emps just like private emps. instead of paying them 16% more.

20 posted on 02/23/2013 7:09:55 AM PST by Principled
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Paul’s suggestions lack a most important aspect. We need to eliminate some agencies, not reduce their staff. Across the board percentage cuts result in ineffective agencies. Eliminate unnecessary agencies and adequately staff necessary agencies.


21 posted on 02/23/2013 7:12:54 AM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: aimhigh
"Government doesn't have many burger flippers"

True....but that's probably above their real skills level.

Paper-pushing is not rocket science, and a 50% cut in number of Government employees would be a start on eliminating waste........

22 posted on 02/23/2013 7:25:35 AM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Stop Hiring New Federal Employees ($6.5 billion per year)

There is already a hiring freeze in the DoD.

Bring Federal-Employee Pay in Line with Private Jobs ($32 billion per year)

The average is heavily skewed upwards because most that is cost-of-living (i.e., housing) expenses associated with the DC area. Contractor pay is obscene in the DC area--should we cut that?. Would you be in favor of adjusting those gov't salaries to match the private industry when the economy takes off again (think late 1990s). Historically, gov't salaries were always lower than industry and it was a trade-off between stability (gov't) or higher pay (industry). The economy is just in a jacked-up place right now.

Reduce Federal-Employee Travel by 25 Percent ($2.25 billion per year)

There is currently a travel freeze in the DoD. Many conferences have already been canceled and the travel/hotel/airlines industry are getting hammered. Most contractors lack the ability to discuss classified information over the telephone or VTC; how do you want to handle this?

Focus Military Research on Military Needs ($6 billion per year)

Define research. What level of development? R&D is historically the smallest portion of the acquisition budget (~10%). Most of the money is spent on the operational phase of a weapon system.

Require Competitive Bidding for Government Contracts ($19 billion per year) The vast majority of weapons systems and contracts are competitive and not sole source and can have up to hundreds of subcontractors. There are pass-through limitations and small business participation quotas on just about every contract.

23 posted on 02/23/2013 7:39:24 AM PST by opticks
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To: C. Edmund Wright
So, from a private sector person's perspective, GOOD!!!!!!!! And BTW, what WAS your point?

You are assuming that all Federal employees make measurably more for their jobs that those in the private sector. Many do and many don't. If your company comes out and tells you that management has been screwing the pooch and in order to stop the illicit "sex", they decided to cut your wages while leaving their wages the same or higher, I have to suppose you would be all for it - even if you happened to be one of those who gave extra hours on a regular basis and worked his butt off to do his job.

24 posted on 02/23/2013 7:53:00 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: opticks

For what. Understand, every job on USA jobs are budgeted for. There are over 8,000 government jobs. Let’s say the average salary for those 8,000 jobs is 50,000 dollars.

If you eliminated every job, that’s a 400 million savings. Defund the EPA, department of education and combine several agencies. Several billion more in savings.

Finally, everyone earning up to 50,000 a year, a flat 10% tax. They need skin in the game.


25 posted on 02/23/2013 8:06:55 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: trebb
You are assuming that all Federal employees make measurably more for their jobs that those in the private sector. Many do and many don't. If your company comes out and tells you that management has been screwing the pooch and in order to stop the illicit "sex", they decided to cut your wages while leaving their wages the same or higher, I have to suppose you would be all for it - even if you happened to be one of those who gave extra hours on a regular basis and worked his butt off to do his job.

No, I'm not assuming that at all, but I am assuming I don't CARE becasue this discussion is in the MACRO and you are arguing in the MICRO. I do assume you will not understand what I just said, and I further assume you don't really undertstand economics, the free market, nor the appropriate role of government and government employees in a free society. I assume you have decided you will never be anything more than a worker bee and that you assume anyone who reaches a level higher than that is somehow bad and somehow screwing the worker bee.

How do you like THEM assumptions?

26 posted on 02/23/2013 9:13:51 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: aimhigh

There is very little respect around here for the government bureaucratic mentality. I think the shoe fits you to a tee.....


27 posted on 02/23/2013 9:17:49 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: BarnacleCenturion; Servant of the Cross

Boy, your article really brought out a bunch of turf protecting government bloodsuckers didn’t it? Who knew there were that many under workd gummint bureaucratic microbes even hanging around FR? I didn’t.


28 posted on 02/23/2013 9:20:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: BarnacleCenturion; Servant of the Cross

Boy, your article really brought out a bunch of turf protecting government bloodsuckers didn’t it? Who knew there were that many under workd gummint bureaucratic microbes even hanging around FR? I didn’t.


29 posted on 02/23/2013 9:20:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: XEHRpa

That’s a good point.


30 posted on 02/23/2013 9:52:19 AM PST by Girlene
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To: C. Edmund Wright

There are many Freepers in uniform who work with these “bloodsuckers” and their contractor partners on a daily basis. Most DoD employees are hard working and genuinely care about the end product. Most are conservative. After all, a large percentage of them are veterans. Where in the heck do you all think the neat weapons and toys the military folks use comes from? You should go look at how many jobs something like the F-22 or F-35 provides. Massive cuts to the DoD is going to roll downhill and you will see a lot of highly trained subject matter experts on the unemployment dole like in the early 90s.


31 posted on 02/23/2013 10:07:42 AM PST by opticks
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To: opticks

You clearly cannot separate the macro from the micro, as I was speaking totally in the macro about goverment employess, and not targeting the DoD related functions specifically - and I was certainly talking about government workers and not contractors. You are letting a tiny tail wag the entire dog. I am talking about the entire dog.

I am also talking about the fact that government must shrink, even if that means some of the good parts of government too. I know full well where the neat weapons and toys come from, but you don’t have a clue WHERE THE MONEY FOR IT COMES FROM.


32 posted on 02/23/2013 10:38:47 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
No, I'm not assuming that at all, but I am assuming I don't CARE becasue this discussion is in the MACRO and you are arguing in the MICRO. I do assume you will not understand what I just said, and I further assume you don't really undertstand economics, the free market, nor the appropriate role of government and government employees in a free society. I assume you have decided you will never be anything more than a worker bee and that you assume anyone who reaches a level higher than that is somehow bad and somehow screwing the worker bee. How do you like THEM assumptions?

You still didn't assert that you would be oh-so-willing to take your own personal hit at the MICRO level in order to set things right at the MACRO level. Just what is the "proper role of government employees in a free society? I train military folks for their careers and also conduct specialized training for deployments - without a civilian base, there would be a lack of continuity and a degradation of training or a locking up of military troops in the training business. The average military we have working with us gets every bit of the pay/benefits (more really) than the average civilian in the job. If spending a 24 year career in uniform, then leveraging my experience to help maintain a trained force makes me incapable of understanding the high-brow crapola you boast of, so be it. I'm also not the one who seems to be holding rancor over a set of people as you seem to posit, while you did seem to express a bit of antipathy during a few of your posts.

I guess the difference is that I know who and what I am and don't have to pretend not to be a pretentious and superior a$$hat in order to "make friends and influence people". How's the air up there? Does the rain cause a problem for the up-turned nose?

33 posted on 02/23/2013 10:42:12 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Your ignorance of what has already happened in the private sector is nothing short of breathtaking. Almost everyone IN the private sector has already been slammed for 5 years! How in the hell can you not know that? What planet are you on?

Second, your assumption that when people refer to “government employees” that we are talking about soldiers and related functions is very disturbing. Yes, I realize that techincally military personnel ARE government employees, but no one in their right mind lumps them in that pile. The notion that you assumed that scares the hell out of me, because apparently you are a “gummint bureaucrat” first above all else. I do know the difference. YOU DON”T

And third, where the hell do you think ANY of this money comes from?


34 posted on 02/23/2013 10:53:19 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: trebb

You should walk out of your cushy government office sometime and take a look at what those of us in the private sector are going through—and we pay your salaries!

Count me amongst those whom wish to see lots of Federal “workers” cleaning out their desks for good


35 posted on 02/23/2013 11:40:53 AM PST by dinodino
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To: aimhigh
"The problem with these salary comparisons is they don't compare job to job. Government doesn't have many burger flippers."

Here is the CBO report Rand used for the 16% number:

Comparing the Compensation of Federal and Private-Sector Employees

CBO's analysis compared federal civilian employees with private-sector employees who resembled them in the following observable characteristics:

Level of education

Years of work experience

Occupation

Employer's size

Geographic location (region of the country and urban or rural location)

Demographic characteristics (age, sex, race, ethnicity, marital status, immigration status, and citizenship).

36 posted on 02/23/2013 11:59:07 AM PST by magellan
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To: magellan

Good info, thanks.


37 posted on 02/23/2013 4:59:28 PM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: opticks
Contractor pay is obscene in the DC area--should we cut that?

Allow contractors to work directly for FedGov and eliminate the middleman. Rates would fall 50% overnight. When I contracted for FEDGOV Accenture LLC was billing me at $200/hr and paying me a salary of $70/hr thereby pocketing $140/hr for little old me.

38 posted on 02/23/2013 5:09:23 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

One more thing: limit the amount of money the WH family can spend in a year...for entertainment, travel, clothing, etc. I would venture a guess that the Obamas have spent more so far than the total all our presidents from JFK and on.


39 posted on 02/23/2013 5:18:23 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: XEHRpa

I have no problem with that. I heard no screams of pity or agony when the EPA killed 60,000 coal miners jobs. That’s 5 days a week off, no medical, no retirement. Time is long over due for the Feds to join the recession they have coddled and cuddled so long.


40 posted on 02/23/2013 6:16:24 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: JohnD9207

Most of the media forgot to mention Rand returning $600,000 to the treasury this year, like they missed him returning $500,000 last year. If he keeps this up both parties will Palinize him very soon.


41 posted on 02/23/2013 6:19:26 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

We have a winner here, Sir I commend you.


42 posted on 02/23/2013 6:21:22 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Are you kidding me? 85 billion reduction in the increase in spending is something to cheer about? Young Americans have been doomed by their parents and grandparents and someday they will come to understand that. However, it will be too late.


43 posted on 02/23/2013 6:26:06 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: magellan
Correct. It is a very valid comparison. Plus when you factor in job security, Federal Employees could be cut more than 16% and still be ahead of private sector employees.

This also caught my eye:

. . . the Defense Department spent $6 billion on research that had little or nothing to do with military needs.

I'm willing to be a lot of that research has to do with queering the military, putting women into combat positions and other politically correct clap-trap.

How about we put a limit on medical expenses which the military can pay for lifestyle choices? Beginning with STDs contacted by those who declared they are gay?

44 posted on 02/23/2013 8:45:53 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Kudos to him, though it’ll never see the light of day; if his own ‘leaders’ don’t undermine and stab him in the back.

He should have taken it further....How much would 0-based accounting have saved? Where’s the cuts in entitlements? Too little.


45 posted on 02/23/2013 8:59:41 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: C. Edmund Wright
our ignorance of what has already happened in the private sector is nothing short of breathtaking. Almost everyone IN the private sector has already been slammed for 5 years! How in the hell can you not know that? What planet are you on? Second, your assumption that when people refer to “government employees” that we are talking about soldiers and related functions is very disturbing. Yes, I realize that techincally military personnel ARE government employees, but no one in their right mind lumps them in that pile. The notion that you assumed that scares the hell out of me, because apparently you are a “gummint bureaucrat” first above all else. I do know the difference. YOU DON”T And third, where the hell do you think ANY of this money comes from?our ignorance of what has already happened in the private sector is nothing short of breathtaking. Almost everyone IN the private sector has already been slammed for 5 years! How in the hell can you not know that? What planet are you on? Second, your assumption that when people refer to “government employees” that we are talking about soldiers and related functions is very disturbing. Yes, I realize that techincally military personnel ARE government employees, but no one in their right mind lumps them in that pile. The notion that you assumed that scares the hell out of me, because apparently you are a “gummint bureaucrat” first above all else. I do know the difference. YOU DON”T And third, where the hell do you think ANY of this money comes from?

I am fully aware of the problems this administration has caused the folks in the private sector. I have also not been immune from it even though I have been able to keep my job.

You're assumptions of who I am are what is breathtaking. I didn't say anything about you and those who paint "gubmint employees" with a broad brush lumping military in with the evil civilian workforce - you managed to put that into my post all by yourself. I merely mentioned that many of us were prior/retired military who had something to offer in helping to train and free up military for their missions. I am far from a "gubmint bureaucrat" as you so conveniently call me - I have many posts on FR that tell folks that I am fine with taking some of the hits if the "leadership" actually follows through on policy that will put us on the right path - something I still haven';t seen you volunteer for in your screeds against all the evil "gubmint bureaucrats". You say I don't know the difference while you do and I find it a little sad that there are so many "experts" that are so damn ignorant and so damn proud of their superior knowledge. Perhaps you should read some of the wisdom of others and apply it to your own life. I'm particularly fond of a quote from Herbert Spencer: "'There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation.'"

I am also painfully aware of where all the money for my wages comes from. I was merely pointing out that some of us "gubmint bureaucrats" actually work hard for our wages and give the People a good return when compared to the costs and inefficiencies of having to tie up military warriors in training slots and have them constantly rotating out of positions that require some stability for continuity. I also fully believe that the government has grown to such a size that it is sucking the life out of the Nation. I only started by stating that those who call for shoving it up the civilian DOD workforce's collective a$$e$ are not as knowledgeable as they seem to think about how the DOD workforce is broken down and they automatically lump us all in with the fiasco that is the root Federal government. It's almost like the "low-information" voters that comprise the Democratic Party - they hear something from someone who is "passionate" and they adopt it as fact and then work themselves into a frenzy against the "enemy".

Tell me what you "know" about me from this: I'm 60 years old and retired from the Air Force after 24 years of service. I Work in training for the Air Force and supervise 11 civilian and military personnel and am responsible for development/maintenance of/administration of 21 different technical courses dealing with military communications systems and network security. I often put in 8-12 uncompensated hours of "overtime" to keep a handle on my areas of responsibility. How much do I make? What "perks" do I get as far as benefits for being a "gubmint bureaucrat"? How much would it cost to have a military person in my position (hint - would need to be a senior NCO)?

I'm not the enemy - I want sequestration even though it will hurt me personally - I just hate all the "experts" acting as if it's a well-deserved comeuppance because they can't see far enough to understand that the civil service folks at many levels are no different than the private sector folks - they just applied for jobs that were going to be filled by someone and they do the daily deal of earning their checks.

46 posted on 02/24/2013 4:16:45 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: dinodino
You should walk out of your cushy government office sometime and take a look at what those of us in the private sector are going through—and we pay your salaries! Count me amongst those whom wish to see lots of Federal “workers” cleaning out their desks for good

You should join the Democratic Party - your ignorance and the ability to thrash about at an imagined "enemy" make you a perfect candidate for it. You know nothing about me or about the many DOD Civilians who work in the trenches with the military warriors to make things happen. Your own work ethic probably falls short of most of ours and you really have no idea of who you are lashing out at. Describe my "cushy government office" and describe my pay/benefits/perks while you're at it. You have no idea but you have been conditioned like Pavlov's dogs (and the Democrats) to paint with a broad stoke and have lost the ability to to discern between reality and perception. Most of the folks I work with have spent honorable military careers and they continue to serve their country in an honorable fashion because they love America, the Military Warriors they support, and most of all they love Freedom. You better hope they have your disillusioned back if the SHTF.

47 posted on 02/24/2013 4:24:45 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

You should get a clue.

You said, “You are assuming that all Federal employees make measurably more for their jobs that those in the private sector. Many do and many don’t.”

You made my point for me: you admitted that many Federal workers are paid far more than they would be in the private sector for the same work. The perception, and statistics bear it out, is that Federal employees are overpaid. Those of us who are business owners are being taxed out of existence by this Administration just to support these overpaid Federal workers.

I am not denigrating vets, but I sure as hell am denigrating the folks in the first of your two categories—the overpaid category.

Tell us, which category are YOU in?


48 posted on 02/24/2013 4:57:05 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino

Oh, and I just read your post where you said, “I often put in 8-12 uncompensated hours of ‘overtime’ to keep a handle on my areas of responsibility.”

What do you want, a cookie? A gold star on your report card to show Mommy how hard you work? It may come as a shock to you, but salaried employees in the private sector generally work more than 40 hours, and no, they don’t get overtime. For business owners, it’s even more than that—I work at all hours and I often work every single day of the week.

Your comment proves that you are out of touch with the real (non-governmental) world.


49 posted on 02/24/2013 5:01:05 AM PST by dinodino
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To: trebb

Oh, and I just read your post where you said, “I often put in 8-12 uncompensated hours of ‘overtime’ to keep a handle on my areas of responsibility.”

What do you want, a cookie? A gold star on your report card to show Mommy how hard you work? It may come as a shock to you, but salaried employees in the private sector generally work more than 40 hours, and no, they don’t get overtime. For business owners, it’s even more than that—I work at all hours and I often work every single day of the week.

Your comment proves that you are out of touch with the real (non-governmental) world.


50 posted on 02/24/2013 5:01:23 AM PST by dinodino
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