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Oregon Dems introduce bill banning most modern guns and authorizing warrantless searches of home
American Thinker ^ | Feb 23, 2013 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 02/23/2013 8:10:26 AM PST by EXCH54FE

With the outrage over the Newtown massacre fading, gun-grabbers are hastening their efforts at the state level. The Oregon Firearms Federation (hat tip: Gateway Pundit) reports:

Two days after Senate Democrats claimed they would not seek a ban on modern firearms and feeding devices, Democrats in the Oregon House introduced just that.

Seven Senators joined with eight House Reps to introduce a sweeping ban on virtually all modern firearms. Among the Senators is, of course, Ginny Burdick, who claimed on Wednesday "that she is backing off an attempt to push through a bill on gun clips that she drafted following the December shootings at the Clackamas Mall." (snip)

HB 3200 not only bans most modern guns and magazines, it allows warrantless searches of your home, requires background checks and registration for a firearm you already own and as-of-yet undefined storage requirements. We say "a firearm" because even if you comply with the restrictions in this bill you may still only own one.

(Of course the bill does not apply to "government employees".)

The bill combines the most extreme and irrational elements of other bills that have been introduced across the country. For example, one of the firearms banned under this bill would be a pistol with a "folding, telescoping or thumbhole stock." No, that is not a misprint. (snip)

The bill bans such deadly features as "pistol grips" and "barrel shrouds" because clearly they add to the lethality of any firearm. These people are so full of hatred for gun owners they don't even understand what they are banning.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment
If anyone tried to introduce an abortion tax, or require liability insurance for political speech, the Supreme Court would strike down these measures with acclaim from the left.
1 posted on 02/23/2013 8:10:35 AM PST by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

Sieg heil comrades!!!


2 posted on 02/23/2013 8:18:14 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Something about unlawful search and seizure comes to mind.

More deliberate disregard for the Constitution.


3 posted on 02/23/2013 8:19:21 AM PST by lurk
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To: EXCH54FE

These warrantless searches will be the spark that sets the whole country on fire.

Either the Supreme Court recognizes the immense danger of such activities and moves quickly to quash them, or all hell is gonna break loose. Those of us who can read know exactly what the plain language of the Fourth Amendment says.

The local constabulary is going to attempt to search the wrong house and the welcome they receive will make news around the world.


4 posted on 02/23/2013 8:23:26 AM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Warrantless searches have been introduced three times in Washington state. It was yanked from new legislation just this week. As Rush pointed out, they continue to float the this trial balloon until it starts to gain momentun. It took 40 years for “gay rights” to be mainstreamed...they are taking the same long view on destruction of the Fourth Amendment. They are really going after the First, Second and Fourth now. With Obama’s massive downsizing of the military, there’s no need to go after the Third.


5 posted on 02/23/2013 8:28:51 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DNME

Any law enforcement office or other government agent that enters your home without a warrant or without your permission is a legitimate target.


6 posted on 02/23/2013 8:29:55 AM PST by wny
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To: DNME

Any law enforcement office or other government agent that enters your home without a warrant or without your permission is a legitimate target.


7 posted on 02/23/2013 8:30:02 AM PST by wny
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To: EXCH54FE

Did you see this gem from the article?

Of course the bill does not apply to “government employees”.


8 posted on 02/23/2013 8:30:21 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: EXCH54FE; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
If you aren't on this ping list and are interested
in articles about Oregon, please FReepmail me.

9 posted on 02/23/2013 8:36:13 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: EXCH54FE

I hate Oregon Nazis.


10 posted on 02/23/2013 8:36:37 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: lurk

The Constitution? No, you see they are drafting this in tiny paragraphs so it doesn’t conflict with the Constitution. (Think Joe’s Garage)

The mask is really starting to come off.


11 posted on 02/23/2013 8:36:43 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: EXCH54FE

The warrentless searches especially concern me, if I were an American. Conceivably, they could enter my home when I am not home and just totally ransack the place.

You, literally, could come home to a completely destroyed house and there would be nothing you could do about it. You wouldn’t even know whom was in your house and it likely wouldn’t be covered by insurance.


12 posted on 02/23/2013 8:38:15 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Of course the bill does not apply to “government employees”.

Can you say RULING CLASS?


13 posted on 02/23/2013 8:38:36 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: EXCH54FE

As far as warrantless searches go, the Fourth Amendment protects homes from unreasonable searches generally requiring a warrant for such a search. Current law is that warrantless searches of a home are allowed only for certain exceptions: “exigent” circumstances (must have probable cause that a crime has been committed and that harm or escape will occur w/o immediate entry), consent, and certain limited applications of searches incident to arrest and “plain view” search.


14 posted on 02/23/2013 8:38:36 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: DNME
Either the Supreme Court recognizes the immense danger of such activities and moves quickly to quash them, or all hell is gonna break loose.

Given their recent ruling which further eviscerates the 4th Amendment, it's quite likely that they would uphold this sort of legislation as well.

15 posted on 02/23/2013 8:42:18 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EXCH54FE; All
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16 posted on 02/23/2013 8:43:47 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: EXCH54FE

Are there any sane persons who’d want to be the policemen or sheriffs assigned to try to forcibly enter people’s homes and steal their guns?


17 posted on 02/23/2013 8:45:11 AM PST by faithhopecharity (()
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To: lurk; DNME; ProtectOurFreedom; wny; Jonty30
warrantless searches of homes

Well, it would be interesting to see what language is in this proposed bill for warrantless searches of someone's home.

Current constitutional case law recognizes that the Fourth Amendment protects “houses” (homes) from “unreasonable searches” generally requiring a warrant for such a search. Warrantless searches of a home are allowed only for certain exceptions: 1)“exigent” circumstances (must have probable cause that a crime has been committed and that harm or escape will occur w/o immediate entry), 2)consent, and 3)certain limited applications of searches incident to arrest and “plain view” search.

18 posted on 02/23/2013 8:52:32 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: Jonty30

“wouldn’t be covered by insurance”

I have my imsurance coverage by Ruger, Springfield and Smith & Wesson.


19 posted on 02/23/2013 8:52:40 AM PST by Daryl Dixson (7.62 x 51 Diplomacy)
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To: EXCH54FE

Its about time that we start collecting information about these marxist libtards so that when the time comes we will know where we can go to “talk” to them.


20 posted on 02/23/2013 8:54:01 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: EXCH54FE

Congratulations to Oregon voters.


21 posted on 02/23/2013 8:55:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: DNME
These warrantless searches will be the spark that sets the whole country on fire.

They really do want to ignite it, don't they? So be it.

22 posted on 02/23/2013 9:02:53 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: wny
Any law enforcement office or other government agent that enters your home without a warrant or without your permission is a legitimate target.

...and will get the same welcome hooded gangsters would get - full mags, including the NATO green-tip LAP rounds.

23 posted on 02/23/2013 9:05:08 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: EXCH54FE

The are not “deomcRATS” they are communists and traitors.

We all know what needs to be done. Voting them out of office is not enough.


24 posted on 02/23/2013 9:05:45 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Daryl Dixson
I have my imsurance coverage by Ruger, Springfield and Smith & Wesson.

We must have the same agent! ;-) Mine is covered by Glock, Smith & Wesson, Mossberg, Ruger, Colt, Remington, and Rock River. Yeah, I celebrate diversity.

25 posted on 02/23/2013 9:12:49 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: faithhopecharity; tubebender; SierraWasp; Salvation

“Are there any sane persons who’d want to be the policemen or sheriffs assigned to try to forcibly enter people’s homes and steal their guns?”

The only leos, who might be safe would be the facist leos in Portland, Ashland and Eugene.

If this anti constitutional bs passes, the left wingers in charge of Orgone will make sure that illegals, enviral whackos and other left wingers will be able to have a gun.


26 posted on 02/23/2013 9:16:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
That's the interesting thing about the 2nd amendment - - it's the amendment that protects itself.
...Just like the framers of the US Constitution intended.
27 posted on 02/23/2013 9:19:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: EXCH54FE
I do believe leaky radiation cylinders at Oregon nuclear waste sites are more hazardous than guns.
28 posted on 02/23/2013 9:21:56 AM PST by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: EXCH54FE

Attention all gangbangers, drug dealers, murderers rapists pedophiles and everyday criminals OREGON is your new place of business.


29 posted on 02/23/2013 9:31:34 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Lexington and Concord Americans experience thier first gun grab attempt)
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To: EXCH54FE

Police state tactics, Oregon style


30 posted on 02/23/2013 9:35:31 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

I probably agree with your sentiment, but what “Oregon nuclear waste sites” are those?


31 posted on 02/23/2013 9:43:23 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: EXCH54FE

I wonder if “they” would even recognize my Yugo M24/47


32 posted on 02/23/2013 9:47:11 AM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Grampa Dave

Yes, well there are certain “laws” that Americans patently won’t comply with. So that anyone proposing them has to be completely insane. “Stupid” just doesn’t explain some peopke.


33 posted on 02/23/2013 9:53:51 AM PST by faithhopecharity (()
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To: EXCH54FE

I think you need a warrant to search property....


34 posted on 02/23/2013 10:19:23 AM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Mine is covered by .22, .308, and by .45 in various ammo cans.


35 posted on 02/23/2013 10:26:10 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Here is a new Free Republic thread featuring a new essay and 5-minute YouTube video titled “Democide: Socialism, Tyranny, Guns and Freedom.” The video has had 12,000 views in the first two days. Now the commie rat bastards have discovered it, and they are NOT happy with it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2990161/posts?page=42

I helped to produce the video. It’s an effort to lift the debate from Newtown “small ball” to the big leagues of state democide, where these efforts at “reasonable and commonsense” gun control laws always lead to death by the million in the end.


36 posted on 02/23/2013 10:26:45 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EXCH54FE

This whole game of our Elected Officials is sickening. We are slowly being taken over by the government, soon we will not be able to defend ourselves against them. When do we stand and say Enough is Enough? When?


37 posted on 02/23/2013 10:54:23 AM PST by conservative_cyclist (I want my parents country back!)
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To: EXCH54FE
The bill combines the most extreme and irrational elements of other bills that have been introduced across the country. For example, one of the firearms banned under this bill would be a pistol with a "folding, telescoping or thumbhole stock." No, that is not a misprint. (snip)

The bill bans such deadly features as "pistol grips" and "barrel shrouds" because clearly they add to the lethality of any firearm. These people are so full of hatred for gun owners they don't even understand what they are banning.

Missouri Dems just banned "...semiautomatic pistols with a fixed magazine that can shoot more than 10 rounds before being reloaded...".

I can only think of one autoloading pistol with a "fixed magazine" (non detachable) which may also be the only autoloader which can use ammunition "clips". It was introduced in 1896 as the Mauser C96 in 7.62x25mm and later added 9x19mm versions. The good news for all those CCW owners of "Broom handle" Mausers, the "fixed magazine" holds exactly ten rounds so even under the Missouri strictures it would be acceptable.

Pictured is a "Red 9" Mauser C96. The 9 displayed in the handgrip (broom handle) is intended to distinguish a 9mm Parabellum chambered model from the externally identical 7.62x25mm version. Also note the usage of a "stripper clip" to facilitate loading the integral box magazine. I know of NO other autoloading pistols with these features.

Regards,
GtG

38 posted on 02/23/2013 12:13:34 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: steve86

but what “Oregon nuclear waste sites” are those?

My apology...wrong state. Oregon, Washington, they are all the same...LIBERAL.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57570857/wash-state-governor-6-underground-nuclear-tanks-leaking/


39 posted on 02/23/2013 12:47:09 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: stars & stripes forever

Actually, eastern Oregon and Washington are overwhelmingly conservative. My home.


40 posted on 02/23/2013 2:05:51 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: EXCH54FE
First "civil forfeiture", and now they propose "warrantless searches". These aren't much different from no-knock raids where they drop the warrant in the entry-way as they break down the door, shoot the dog, and hurl in the flash-bang.

As Benjamin Franklin might say today, "It's a long way from Tipperary", or maybe, "We're not in Kansas anymore."

41 posted on 02/23/2013 2:14:55 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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