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Jimmy Carter on "Argo": "Itís a great drama, and I hope it gets the Academy Award for best film"
CNN ^ | 2/22/13

Posted on 02/23/2013 9:08:14 AM PST by Borges

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Citing one key discrepancy in the film, the former United States president made this point:

"...90 percent of the contributions to the ideas and the consummation of the plan was Canadian," notes the 88-year-old. "The movie gives almost full credit to the American CIA. And with that exception, the movie's very good."

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1 posted on 02/23/2013 9:08:21 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Why does anyone care what this old fool (2nd worst president after the current obozo) has to say about anything? Really? JC help us, my God.


2 posted on 02/23/2013 9:11:18 AM PST by john drake
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To: john drake

Well these events took place under his watch.


3 posted on 02/23/2013 9:13:13 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

IMHO, Argo is still a very good movie; Jimmy Carter’s agreement notwithstanding.


4 posted on 02/23/2013 9:14:04 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

I loved it.


5 posted on 02/23/2013 9:14:38 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

excellent film... had me on the edge of my seat the entire time... Ben Afflick deserved to be nominated for best director—but was not... it really took me back to when i was in the 9th grade...


6 posted on 02/23/2013 9:16:20 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Borges

I would assume that there were no mention of the disasterous Carter administration sideshow blunders. Of coarse he liked it he sees his legacy within the movie. Isn’t fiction grand


7 posted on 02/23/2013 9:17:56 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Lexington and Concord Americans experience thier first gun grab attempt)
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To: john drake

Exactly what I was thinking as soon as I saw the headline. I just wish he would go away. Why has he come out of the woodwork anyway?


8 posted on 02/23/2013 9:18:58 AM PST by mrsloungitude ( USMC Mom)
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To: Borges
Well these events took place under his watch.

I haven't seen the movie yet. How is Carter portrayed in the movie? (if he's mentioned at all.)

9 posted on 02/23/2013 9:20:18 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Borges

Carter has never been right about anything, so no sense in going to that film.


10 posted on 02/23/2013 9:21:18 AM PST by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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To: Borges

Why would a U.S. President allow the Canadians to architect a multi-service rescue plan?

This was the worst case dictating playground sharing, ever imposed on our military.

Rather than ensuring the men and equipment used, were best suited for the mission, they demanded that each service play an equal role.

That’s how we ended up with choppers not suited for the desert conditions, among other deficiencies.


11 posted on 02/23/2013 9:23:08 AM PST by G Larry
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To: latina4dubya

Heard it is a good film.

But the question I have is, without the “best director” award for Ben Afflick, can “Argo” win the best movie title?

The “best movie” CANNOT win without the “best director” award.


12 posted on 02/23/2013 9:23:20 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: GreenHornet

He’s not really in it except a speech excerpt here and there from archival footage and characters mentioning ‘the President’.


13 posted on 02/23/2013 9:24:19 AM PST by Borges
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To: Biggirl

It’s happened many times.


14 posted on 02/23/2013 9:25:37 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

The fact that Carter appears in the movie, even for one second, is enough to make me never see it in theaters or rent it on blu-ray, dvd, whatever.


15 posted on 02/23/2013 9:30:10 AM PST by laconic
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To: Borges
Well these events took place under his watch.

These events took place because of his watch.

16 posted on 02/23/2013 9:35:06 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Biggirl

Apparently 3 films have won Best Picture without even a Best Director nomination. Wings, Grand Hotel and Driving Miss Daisy. Had to look that up.


17 posted on 02/23/2013 9:40:06 AM PST by rudabaga
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To: Borges
"...90 percent of the contributions to the ideas and the consummation of the plan was Canadian," notes the 88-year-old. "The movie gives almost full credit to the American CIA. And with that exception, the movie's very good."

Not to mention the movie must've gone easy on him and not accurately portrayed him as the bumbling fool he actually is. He never makes an appearance or says anything in public unless it gives him to opportunity to chip away at the American image. Here it's in favor of the Canadians. He would've loved it even more if he could've plausibly given credit to N. Korea. Still, I do want to see this movie.

18 posted on 02/23/2013 9:41:24 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Borges

in his defense, he could easily have taken credit for himself?

clinton or obama sure would have


19 posted on 02/23/2013 9:41:57 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Navy Patriot

Saw it last night “on demand.” Was amused that at the end there was type on the screen that explained about the hostages being released on Jan. 20, 1981. But of course no mention that it was at the exact moment Reagan was inaugurated. Then Carter does a voiceover explaining how getting the hostages released “restored integrity” to our nation or some such rot, and reminding us that the whole Argo operation took place on his watch.

Then the credits rolled and I saw the movie was produced by Ben Affleck and George Clooney. So of course they had to give Jimmah a speaking part!


20 posted on 02/23/2013 9:43:34 AM PST by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: LibWhacker
gives him to opportunity

gives him THE opportunity

21 posted on 02/23/2013 9:43:55 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Navy Patriot

In the words of H - “What difference does it make?” - but Carter wishes nothing the USA did could be portrayed as good.


22 posted on 02/23/2013 9:48:03 AM PST by LibertyOh
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To: duckworth

My understanding is that the hostages were released on Carter’s last day in office because the Muslims hated him and wanted to stick it to him.


23 posted on 02/23/2013 9:59:54 AM PST by Borges
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To: LibertyOh; Borges; billorites; latina4dubya; ronnie raygun; FARS; mrsloungitude; GreenHornet; ...
The overthrow of the Shah was allowed by Carter, well proven over the years. Jimmy Carter abandoned the Shah and allowed him to be overthrown, called Khomenie a peaceful man, and wallowed in his crisis and made things worse for America.

Islamic terrorism against the United States happened because Jimmy Carter failed as a leader to take defensive action when our embassy was overrun, and Carter should never be praised other than his ordering the rescue attempt after months of hem-hawing.

There is Much evidence Carter abandoned the Shah

The movie was a good movie as far as cinema goes, but it was horrible history:
http://www.rescueattempt.com/id24.html

24 posted on 02/23/2013 10:00:19 AM PST by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: LibWhacker
Not to mention the movie must've gone easy on him and not accurately portrayed him as the bumbling fool he actually is. He never makes an appearance or says anything in public unless it gives him to opportunity to chip away at the American image.

Not hard to be accurate with that prediction, considering ultra leftist, revisionist Hollywood PC.

Still, if you have the slightest ability to read between the lines, you can conclude that Carter had to be coerced into final support of the escape plan by insubordination, setting up a administration publicity disaster if Carter refused support.

I suggest you expect to be irritated by the opening Marxist revisionist history and character assassination narrative, but after that, there are a lot of interesting scenes.

25 posted on 02/23/2013 10:08:15 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

What was Marxist about the opening section?


26 posted on 02/23/2013 10:10:44 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

These rescue plot films usually make me a little envious. In Feb
of 1945 elements of my dad’s paratroop regiment and division,
along w/Filipino guerillas stormed a Japanese prison camp and
freed 2147 mostly American prisoners who were starving. The
assault came from the air, land, and from across a large lake.
No “internee” was seriously hurt during the carefully planned
operation but the Japanese garrison was all but wiped out.
The Los Banos Raid is still considered one of the most
successful operations of its kind and the planning and execution
aspects of it are taught at the War College to this day.
But you won’t see an Argo type movie about it . I don’t
know why. It might have something to do with the fact
that the event was overshadowed by the raising of
the US flag on Mt Surabachi my the Marines which
soaked up much of the media attention on the same
day.


27 posted on 02/23/2013 10:10:44 AM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: john drake

And to think, Clinton nearly took Carter out. He had the chance. Planes were ready to go in.


28 posted on 02/23/2013 10:15:42 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: duckworth; Borges
But of course no mention that it was at the exact moment Reagan was inaugurated.

Yep, the goatbanging Muslim Mullahs, and everybody else in Iran knew their remaining lifetime was measured in minutes if they held American hostages on American soil when Reagan took office.

See my post #25.

29 posted on 02/23/2013 10:19:51 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Sivad

I thought it was good movie. Whenever I’m with Canadian friends, I always toast them, eh? I watched it primarily to see if they’d show a fleeting shot of my old office building on the embassy compound. They didn’t. That was where the “student militants” (aka Moslem thugs) kept our hostages for 444 days.


30 posted on 02/23/2013 10:22:22 AM PST by Ax
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To: Sivad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_at_Los_Ba%C3%B1os


31 posted on 02/23/2013 10:26:51 AM PST by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Still, if you have the slightest ability to read between the lines, you can conclude that Carter had to be coerced into final support of the escape plan by insubordination, setting up a administration publicity disaster if Carter refused support.

Now.... Fast-Forward to 2012.

Still, if you have the slightest ability to read between the lines, you can conclude that Obama had to be coerced into final support of the Bin Laden capture plan by insubordination, setting up a administration publicity disaster if Obama refused support.

32 posted on 02/23/2013 10:38:03 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Borges
What was Marxist about the opening section?

The "Democratically Elected" government immediately previous to the re installation of the Shah, was no such thing.

It was a Communist puppet government financed, engineered and installed by the Soviet Union (Russia).

Russia was seeking a warm water port, and territory to insulate their expanding ballistic missile testing/launching areas from intelligence observation.

The CIA reinstalled the Shah because he was pro American, would deny Russia the port, and allow CIA monitoring of Russia's missile testing.

Carter was too stupid and to pinko to understand that the Mullahs would steal the Iranian government from the Commies Carter intended to install. They lasted less than two weeks.

Any Marxist, of course, is happy to be left out of the story, because the Shah was actually only hard on the commies, and nowhere near the the tyrant portrayed by Argo's opening narration.

33 posted on 02/23/2013 10:40:50 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Borges

Argo is only 3% accurate: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/10/12/argo_true_story_the_facts_and_fiction_behind_the_ben_affleck_movie.html


34 posted on 02/23/2013 10:41:18 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Can’t argue with that.


35 posted on 02/23/2013 10:42:41 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Tanniker Smith
And to think, Clinton nearly took Carter out.


36 posted on 02/23/2013 10:42:53 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Navy Patriot; discostu

What I’ve read suggested that Mossadegh was hostile to communism and that Britain told us a tall tale to ensure our help. It was primarily a British-Iranian conflict. Is there hard evidence these days that he was a Stalinist puppet?


37 posted on 02/23/2013 10:49:04 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Do the world a favor and STFU, Jimmah. He could tell me I’ve won the Publishers’ Clearing House grand prize and it’d still pi$$ me off.


38 posted on 02/23/2013 10:52:56 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: SkyDancer; Borges; Navy Patriot
Argo is only 3% accurate

Along with the 'volunteer' Audience Rating System used by filmmakers, there should be a Accuracy Content Rating System.

39 posted on 02/23/2013 10:53:22 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: G Larry
Why would a U.S. President allow the Canadians to architect a multi-service rescue plan?

Plausible Deniability.

If it went wrong, heck, nobody would be bothered by blaming the Canadians.

On a more serious note, this is exactly why ECHELON was set up in foreign countries. It made spying on one's own citizens 'legal'. We spied for them, they spied for us, and nobody was 'technically' breaking the laws of their own country.

40 posted on 02/23/2013 11:01:54 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

It’s a drama not a documentary. Drama based on actual events is never historically accurate in all regards. Ever. Not in Shakespeare’s day and certainly not now.


41 posted on 02/23/2013 11:07:04 AM PST by Borges
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To: Ax

42 posted on 02/23/2013 11:09:54 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Borges

So.... 3% is then actually a very high figure, considering it’s a drama .


43 posted on 02/23/2013 11:13:52 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Sivad

Actually there was a movie about that rescue that came out a few years ago. I know, because I saw it in the theater with my late father who was a big WWII history buff. He said he knew someone who was on that mission.


44 posted on 02/23/2013 11:22:41 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Sivad

Actually there was a movie about that rescue that came out a few years ago. I know, because I saw it in the theater with my late father who was a big WWII history buff. He said he knew someone who was on that mission.


45 posted on 02/23/2013 11:23:04 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: SkyDancer

This article is about the way I remember it being reported at that time. Upstate NY businesses even had Canadian Appreciation Day discounts for a few weeks to say thank you for their part for keeping those Americans safe and bringing them back. I read that the group was really bored in hiding. They played so much Scrabble that they were able to tell what letter was on the other side of a tile by the grain of the wood on the back.


46 posted on 02/23/2013 11:24:18 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Sivad; Paleo Conservative

Movie was “The Great Raid” (2005)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0326905/


47 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:58 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Borges

Can’t imagine why. Carter hates Jews and real Christians almost as much as Mohammadans do.


48 posted on 02/23/2013 11:32:23 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: RaceBannon
what?

did you see the movie?

49 posted on 02/23/2013 11:49:07 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: UCANSEE2

Anyone who goes to the movies to learn history or truth from the media is .... well ..... y’know.


50 posted on 02/23/2013 11:50:33 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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