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National park cuts could hit state hard
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | February 22, 2013 | Peter Fimrite

Posted on 02/23/2013 5:07:02 PM PST by artichokegrower

Park rangers in the Bay Area and throughout California would be laid off, interpretive programs would be cut and Yosemite's bears might end up with a perpetual trash banquet if the federal government does not find a deficit-reduction plan, according to a National Park Service document leaked this week.

The lack of a long-term financial plan would mean a $1.2 trillion across-the-board cut in federal spending and a 5 percent hit to the budgets of the 398 national parks, including Yosemite National Park, the Golden Gate National Recreation Area and Point Reyes National Seashore.

The cuts would be necessary in the event of what is known as the "sequester," which is a legal writ forcing cuts in federal programs in the event President Obama cannot reach an agreement with Congress on a budget plan by Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; partisanmediashills; sequester
Cut parks, cut air traffic controllers, cut FBI. Wonder where possibly they might cut first before hitting these programs?

USDA partnering with Mexico to boost food stamp participation

The Mexican government has been working with the United States Department of Agriculture to increase participation in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or Food Stamps.

USDA has an agreement with Mexico to promote American food assistance programs, including food stamps, among Mexican Americans, Mexican nationals and migrant communities in America.

“USDA and the government of Mexico have entered into a partnership to help educate eligible Mexican nationals living in the United States about available nutrition assistance,” the USDA explains in a brief paragraph on their “Reaching Low-Income Hispanics With Nutrition Assistance” web page. “Mexico will help disseminate this information through its embassy and network of approximately 50 consular offices.”

The partnership — which was signed by former USDA Secretary Ann M. Veneman and Mexican Secretary of Foreign Affairs Luis Ernesto Derbez Bautista in 2004 — sees to it that the Mexican Embassy and Mexican consulates in America provide USDA nutrition assistance program information to Mexican Americans, Mexican nationals working in America and migrant communities in America. The information is specifically focused on eligibility criteria and access.

1 posted on 02/23/2013 5:07:08 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower
David Burge David Burge @iowahawkblog 1 hr

Jellystone National Park: furloughed, starving Ranger Smith shoots Yogi and Boo-Boo for food

2 posted on 02/23/2013 5:11:41 PM PST by smoothsailing
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I’m sure there is absolutely nothing else other than services that people actually use that can be cut. Crickey, just fire half of the managers, and they will still be top heavy.


3 posted on 02/23/2013 5:16:02 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: smoothsailing

1. It’s a lie.
2. I don’t give a smelly Obama.

CA, take the $ you waste on illegal alien (dim-bulb-crat) voters and spend it on legal things, b*ttholes


4 posted on 02/23/2013 5:17:22 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: smoothsailing
When Klinton shut down the government everyone except “essential personnel” got sent home for an extra 5 days of vacation. I had to work and they promised to make it up to me but they didn't. Those that did the least got an extra week of uncharged vacation and full pay. They did not want to mess with the unions. The FAA functioned as usual.
5 posted on 02/23/2013 5:19:04 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: artichokegrower

Not possible. Women and Children are Hardest Hit.


6 posted on 02/23/2013 5:20:14 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: dsrtsage

Park rangers in the Bay Area and throughout California would be laid off

I knew that Leftists would soon end up paying for their wastefulness

at a public off road park that was taken over by the state...the “Rangers” are liberals..and the funds taken in are spent buying them new jeeps and buildings...nothing is spent on improving the park or Buying more land...

these democrat scum will soon be loosing their jobs as the State implodes.


7 posted on 02/23/2013 5:21:07 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: artichokegrower
Perhaps this is a reflection of the “real world” out in the private sector. I have been laid off twice and am always worried about more layoffs.

I have also seen my wages and benefits drop dramatically. Why should I continue to sacrifice while the people who work for me live a better life than me?

Sorry. Maybe this is unfair. I don't wish this on anyone but there seems to be a disparity — the taxpayer versus the people who make their living off of the taxpayers.

We can certainly start with the more frivolous and unnecessary jobs in the public sector.

8 posted on 02/23/2013 5:21:29 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: mountainlion

What do you figure is the ratio of “essential personnel” to “non-essential personnel” in the federal workforce?

Seems to me that we should just tell all the “non-essentials” that the furlough is permanent and they’re getting two weeks severance pay.

Screw the unions.


9 posted on 02/23/2013 5:26:32 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: artichokegrower

Why are all of these horrible things going to happen when the sequester goes into effect since the sequester is only a cut in the INCREASE? There are no ACTUAL cuts happening - that is, no one will have a smaller budget. In fact, as I understand it there will actually be MORE money in the budget this year than last - just not as much as they were counting on. So why would even ONE PERSON be furloughed? Can someone explain that to me?


10 posted on 02/23/2013 5:30:23 PM PST by Castigar
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To: artichokegrower

It didn’t take but a few sentences for the author to expose his irrational panic.

If the parks are closed, then there will be no trash in the bins for the bears to feast. The poor bears may actually have to forage in the woods!


11 posted on 02/23/2013 5:31:30 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: artichokegrower

These cuts will surely cause the deaths of thousands and thousands of lions, and tigers, and bears! Oh, my!

Follow the Yellow Brick Road. Follow the Yellow Brick Road.
Follow, follow, follow, follow,
Follow the Yellow Brick Road.
Follow the Yellow Brick, Follow the Yellow Brick,
Follow the Yellow Brick Road.

We’re off to see the Wizard, The Wonderful Wizard Obama.

You’ll find he is a whiz of a Wiz! If ever a Wiz! there was.
If ever oh ever a Wiz! there was

The Wizard Obama is one because,
Because, because, because, because, because.
Because of the wonderful things he does.

We’re off to see the Wizard. The Wonderful Wizard Obama....


12 posted on 02/23/2013 5:32:46 PM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: artichokegrower

Blah, blah, blah government scare-mongering. I’m so tired of it.

* Our school board warns of serious and deep cuts in education if they don’t get their tax hikes. They were turned down and they still managed to balance the budget and not lay anybody off.
* Our town warns of serious and deep cuts in “services” if they don’t get the utility tax extended.
* Our county warns of serious and deep cuts in “services” if they don’t get their sales tax hikes. When I moved here, it was 3%; now it’s almost 10% — over 3X MORE. Yet they are never satisfied and want more, and more.
* The State of CA always warns about serious and deep cuts in prison guards and state parks if we don’t give them more tax money. We have about the highest state taxes in the nation and they want MORE, MORE, MORE.
* The Feds warn about huge cuts in “services” if they get a lousy 1% cut in revenue. Kids on the streets, grandma out in the cold eating dog food, etc.

Leftists all sing from a songbook with a single tune in it.

I am so disgusted by this lying scare- and fear-mongering I want to scream. It is childish and immature beyond belief. This nation elects the biggest bunch of immature losers from top to bottom. They are not fit to govern.


13 posted on 02/23/2013 5:35:31 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: smoothsailing

Screw the unions.

We would have to get rid of the Democrats first.


14 posted on 02/23/2013 5:38:58 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: smoothsailing

The Parks will be there when the Rangers go back to work. I really can’t remember the Rangers outcry when 75,000 coal miners were fired. Saddle up boys its time to join the recession the government has nurtured and grown. Perhaps you could have voted to end this nightmare called Obamaunism.


15 posted on 02/23/2013 5:43:54 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: mountainlion; JohnD9207; IowaHawk
Oh the horror!........

3 hrs

NPR hosts forced to pay for own Valium and poignant banjo interlude music

16 posted on 02/23/2013 5:53:29 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: dhs12345

Yes. Funny how when we in the private sector get laid off...or my commissions cut on half no one cares..but if it happens to a government employee it’s the end of the world.


17 posted on 02/23/2013 5:57:40 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mountainlion

Found this:

” More than 800,000 “non-essential” federal workers — out of a civilian workforce of 2.1 million — would be furloughed until new spending legislation was passed.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-07/government-shutdown-threatens-800-000-as-obama-seeks-solution.html

So roughly 40% of the federal civilian workforce is “non-essential”. What a scam.


18 posted on 02/23/2013 6:03:01 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Close the fed Parks in Alaska, locals will luv it. Get rid of the Nazi Fed Park Cops; let the Parks go back to Nature like before Carter stole State Lands.


19 posted on 02/23/2013 6:14:41 PM PST by Eska
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To: mountainlion

You’re correct. I was working in DC at the time. People were begging to go on the furlough list. They got to take a week off, with pay, without it counting against their vacation leave. There were so many shoppers at the giant Pentagon City Mall that there were cars parked along the exit ramp from the expressway. It was a complete and total farce.


20 posted on 02/23/2013 6:16:53 PM PST by Kanzan
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To: dhs12345

Sorry to hear that. It is a frightening world for sure especially in the USA (at least the last 4 years). I really wish we had some serious people in Washington who wanted to do something about cuts. The “Real World” has many more job opportunities than the government because there are more jobs in the civilian sector. However, I digressed. I would love for their to be a complete look at EVERY program in the government and seriously look at what is not working. It won’t happen though.


21 posted on 02/23/2013 6:27:45 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Castigar

There are no ACTUAL cuts happening - that is, no one will have a smaller budget.

Just ask those getting screwed out of 20 percent of their pay for the rest of the year. Most make an average of 1300 dollars a paycheck. I only bring in 1096 so I would love to see all these rich evil government worker paychecks that are so high. I seriously don’t see them at the Naval Academy.


22 posted on 02/23/2013 6:29:49 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: artichokegrower
a 5 percent hit to the budgets of the 398 national parks

Raise admission fees the necessary amount.

But what gets cut is the president's decision.

23 posted on 02/23/2013 6:32:15 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: napscoordinator

Just ask those of us getting “screwed” out of FIFTY+ PERCENT of our blankety-blank paycheck each and every period in order to pay for the blankety-blank federal monkey—make that GORILLA—on our backs!

Where does it stop? How the hell much do you want us to pay??


24 posted on 02/23/2013 7:00:22 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

I pay the same 50 percent taxes...as does every other WORKING person. Your in good shape making six figures and still have six figures left over. Wish I had that.


25 posted on 02/23/2013 7:02:51 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

Well, keep on wishing.

Maybe one of these days the people you work for will take it all.


26 posted on 02/23/2013 7:12:22 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: artichokegrower
Hey kids! What time is it?!

It's

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time!


27 posted on 02/23/2013 7:12:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)
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To: Eska

Don’t forget...the mountains will flatten and the geysers will cool if DC lefties stop writing rubber checks.


28 posted on 02/23/2013 7:15:24 PM PST by relictele
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To: Castigar

“I understand it there will actually be MORE — (BORROWED) — money in the budget this year than last . . ..”

A slight modification.


29 posted on 02/23/2013 7:31:25 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: napscoordinator

“Just ask those getting screwed out of 20 percent of their pay for the rest of the year. Most make an average of 1300 dollars a paycheck. I only bring in 1096 so I would love to see all these rich evil government worker paychecks that are so high. I seriously don’t see them at the Naval Academy.”

How are they getting screwed out of something they never had?
They will make the same as they did last year.


30 posted on 02/23/2013 7:43:15 PM PST by Castigar
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To: napscoordinator

“Just ask those getting screwed out of 20 percent of their pay for the rest of the year. Most make an average of 1300 dollars a paycheck. I only bring in 1096 so I would love to see all these rich evil government worker paychecks that are so high. I seriously don’t see them at the Naval Academy.”

And even if this were true - WHERE’S the FURLOUGH?


31 posted on 02/23/2013 7:48:33 PM PST by Castigar
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To: napscoordinator

“Just ask those getting screwed out of 20 percent of their pay for the rest of the year. Most make an average of 1300 dollars a paycheck. I only bring in 1096 so I would love to see all these rich evil government worker paychecks that are so high. I seriously don’t see them at the Naval Academy.”

HOW are you getting 20% less? There is no REDUCTION in the budget!?


32 posted on 02/23/2013 7:52:24 PM PST by Castigar
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To: Mike Darancette

“Raise admission fees the necessary amount”

No.

Cut the waste first.


33 posted on 02/23/2013 8:09:32 PM PST by Selene
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To: Castigar

I look back on the bizarre metamorphosis of Charles Johnson, former conservative fave after 9/11, and I see a lot of current FReepers.

Johnson, of Little Green Footballs, wasn’t really conservative, he just had the crap scared out of him to the point of becoming a defense hawk, for a few years at least.

Current FReepers who are poor-talking their own rates of compensation and benefits from the Federal Government, as well as attacking other FReepers who dare to point out that FedGov employees just might be overpaid and underworked, aren’t really conservative, either.

They’re here because they’re pro-military, and they’re pro-military merely because that’s where their bread is buttered. Start talking budget constrains upon their particular teat and they screech to high heaven, trot out tales of woe, even suddenly turning into caricature Bible-thumpers condemning everyone to heck. Seriously.

So, just suck it up, idiots and yahoos out in private-sector-land, it’s soooo unfair to be furloughed and experience a temporary 20% reduction in pay. Why, they’re *only* taking home $1,300.00 per paycheck on average, what a bargain. Oh, wait, that’s per week take home pay, lol.

Still a bargain at any price, you’re hearing it straight from the horses’ mouths. You’ll burn in hayull for sinnin’ agin’em. They’re entitled. /s


34 posted on 02/23/2013 8:11:04 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: artichokegrower

Olson said the public should be prepared for closures of campgrounds, hiking trails, visitor centers and other service reductions at “national parks, historic sites, monuments and memorials, parkways, trails, preserves and reserves, seashores and lakeshores, recreation areas and national battlefields.”....OK. I’m prepared. Bring it on.


35 posted on 02/23/2013 8:41:23 PM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Castigar

Napscoordinator said:

“Just ask those getting screwed out of 20 percent of their pay for the rest of the year. Most make an average of 1300 dollars a paycheck. I only bring in 1096 so I would love to see all these rich evil government worker paychecks that are so high. I seriously don’t see them at the Naval Academy.”

“How are they getting screwed out of something they never had?
They will make the same as they did last year.

And even if this were true - WHERE’S the FURLOUGH?

Your remarks are so right on the money.....great responses!!!


36 posted on 02/23/2013 9:30:49 PM PST by Islander2
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To: dhs12345
Perhaps this is a reflection of the “real world” out in the private sector. I have been laid off twice and am always worried about more layoffs. I have also seen my wages and benefits drop dramatically. Why should I continue to sacrifice while the people who work for me live a better life than me?

I have lost a career in the medical research field (pending Obamacare has utterly destroyed any preclinical research) I say we should just shut down any government position that is considered "nonessential" in a snowstorm


let bureaucrats get the jobs Americans won't do.

37 posted on 02/24/2013 6:14:33 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: napscoordinator
Agreed. How about a guess as to how much waste is in government? 5% of the budget, 10%? 15%, 20%? No one knows because there is little accountability. Besides, they wouldn't admit it if there was waste. The rule in the government — if, at the end of the budget cycle, if you have extra money spend it anyway.

Government programs are like an amoeba — they expand and fill the void. No boundaries? It becomes huge and out of control. Certainly, people are employed. But at what cost? And it is the fox watching the hen house.

38 posted on 02/24/2013 8:15:23 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Cowman

Sorry to hear that.

I’d like to think that what doesn’t kill us will make us stronger. The free market mantra. And that works for the most part. But how can the public sector ever become efficient if they are never tested in this way. Or private crony companies like GM are never forced to reorganize?

They continue to grow without restraint. True, people are employed and employing folks is a good thing. But at what cost?


39 posted on 02/24/2013 8:23:20 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: mountainlion

Clinton got pizza delivered by Monica and the rest is history!


40 posted on 02/24/2013 8:28:22 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

Clinton got pizza delivered by Monica and the rest is history!

Monica was an intern and as such I Don’t think that she was a federal employee.


41 posted on 02/24/2013 8:31:47 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion
Monica was an intern and as such I Don’t think that she was a federal employee.

Whatever she was, it pales in comparison to what she became...don't you think?

42 posted on 02/24/2013 8:41:01 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

Whatever she was, it pales in comparison to what she became...don’t you think?

I was thinking that her kind would not be the ones that got laid off. Sleaze and corruption are the new normal.


43 posted on 02/24/2013 9:04:52 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

She was “essential.” LOL!


44 posted on 02/24/2013 12:42:52 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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