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The Other McCain ^ | February 23, 2013 | Staff

[muawiyah]

There's no tyranny in my idea at all. When you are dead you are dead. You are no longer among the living. Your money should have no civil rights ~ or be allowed to rule over us in perpetuity ~ as in the past the solution for the future is to DISTRIBUTE the wealth among the family.

[1010RD]

You weave facts as if you were sitting upon a loom.

http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v48/n28/AncientTaxes.html

Those institutions were the state, so they wouldn’t be taxed now would they? Or they were individuals so their tax would be paid despite their kindness, no?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_the_Apostate#Charity

[muawiyah]

no, those institutions were ALL PRIVATE. Charity and education were obligations individuals met ~ there were no public school systems, and at most any sort of king's charity would go to repairing docks and roads ~ the ancients clearly differentiated between the private sphere and that of the government. Their noble classes simply didn't think of themselves as an insurer of last resort.

Taxes went for the care and upkeep of the royal family, the nobility and the army.

[1010RD]

Yes, they were all private and therefore paid from from post-tax funds. Therefore they were all taxed and they all existed. You’re comparing two different systems. Ours is broken. We need to tax non-profits because the pain must be shared. If churches can sit on the sidelines they’ll benefit from our pain. If urban black pastors had to pay taxes on their church earnings and RE holdings do you think they’d be Democrats?

Where do you live?

[muawiyah]

The concept of an income tax is fairly recent ~ the ancients didn’t do it that way. After all the guys who got all the income owned everything ~

[muawiyah]

BTW, the current mainstream Conservative thinking about the use of taxes to inflict pain of any kind is that the purpose of taxes should be to support legitimate government activity, not inflict pain.