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TX:Family fights back when 3 gunmen storm their home; one intruder shot
khou.com ^ | 22 February, 2012 | Tim Wetzel and Staff

Posted on 02/24/2013 8:42:20 AM PST by marktwain

HOUSTON –A 21-year-old man sprang into action to protect his family Thursday night when three suspects barged into their northwest Harris County home.

The young man was home with his mother and father in the 3900 block of Brook Garden when the armed men forced their way into the house around 8 p.m., according to Harris County Sheriff’s deputies.

The family was in the middle of baking a cake, when there was a knock at the door.

“I see a young boy and I think it is a friend of my son so I open it a little bit,” the father explained. “These guys push and out comes two more, they push me on the ground.”

After the father was down, the suspects went after the mother. That is when the son ran and got his dad’s gun. He opened fire and hit one of the suspects, who died in the back bedroom. The other two suspects fled the scene.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; defense; guncontrol; home; secondamendment; tx
People are fighting back. Crime is dropping.
1 posted on 02/24/2013 8:42:27 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Good sons are the best!


2 posted on 02/24/2013 8:47:08 AM PST by stanne
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To: marktwain
I would like to see Mr. Biden explain how that situation would have been better handled with a double barreled shotgun.
3 posted on 02/24/2013 8:48:32 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: marktwain
So....a gripping account of the actions that occurred....even including this one line ...the police apprehended two suspects that matched the description....

Another liberal wimp-ass media copout afraid of calling a spade a spade. Either Holder's People, or Mexicans....take your pick.

4 posted on 02/24/2013 8:51:52 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: marktwain

What are the odds of the perps being white? (Or even legals for that matter?)


5 posted on 02/24/2013 8:52:17 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

If the suspects had been white, the media story would have led with that! You know what’s going on here.


6 posted on 02/24/2013 8:54:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Strange as it seems, the suspects were white (at least this one is)...


7 posted on 02/24/2013 9:00:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Then it is drugs.


8 posted on 02/24/2013 9:01:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: marktwain
...hit one of the suspects, who died in the back bedroom. The other two suspects fled the scene.

Nice work son. Maybe a little more range time and next time you can go three for three.

9 posted on 02/24/2013 9:10:55 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: marktwain

The only sad part to this story is the fact he did’nt kill the other 2.:)


10 posted on 02/24/2013 9:12:32 AM PST by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: marktwain

“People are fighting back. Crime is dropping.”

Tell that to Chicago and Detroit, LOL!


11 posted on 02/24/2013 9:24:18 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Gaffer

I’m thinking that the perps are feral Anabaptists!


12 posted on 02/24/2013 9:27:10 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

The expected spend time on the range remarks. Range time is important but when you are face-to-face, family and self in danger $h!t happens at a light-speed pace. There is no time for proper sight picture, controlled breathing, stance or controlled breathing and trigger pull. You do what you can to take aim and control your actions for the best results with no harm to self and loved ones but it is still a take out the bad guy as quickly as possible. You are not standing down range from an inert target. Each situation is also very different.

That said, additional range time never hurts.


13 posted on 02/24/2013 9:28:16 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Gaffer

“Another liberal wimp-ass media copout afraid of calling a spade a spade. Either Holder’s People, or Mexicans....take your pick.”

Heck yeah. White people are perfect and never commit violent crime.

/s


14 posted on 02/24/2013 9:35:14 AM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: RJS1950

Adrenalin can be crazy, but repeated practice shapes your response under pressure. Muscle memory for the win!


15 posted on 02/24/2013 9:44:15 AM PST by catbertz
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To: marktwain

Crime prevention at its finest.


16 posted on 02/24/2013 10:28:12 AM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: marktwain
“I just hear a couple of times; boom, boom, boom.

That would be 6 rounds to stop one of the 3 bad guys. Wow, I thought we were only supposed to need 2-4 rounds to take down home intruders.

17 posted on 02/24/2013 10:32:25 AM PST by bgill
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To: tbpiper

G. Gordon Liddy did a firearms piece for Forbes years ago. In discussing the choice of firearms for personal protection, he mentions that the downside of a shotgun inside your home is that you may end up peppering that irreplaceable photo or painting of your great-great-great aunt Bertha that’s on the wall behind those that would do you harm...


18 posted on 02/24/2013 10:50:59 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

Thats whay I got a 410 shotgun for indoor home defense- it shouldn’t take out any structural walls the way a 12 guage might


19 posted on 02/24/2013 10:58:59 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Calvin Locke

Thats whay I got a 410 shotgun for indoor home defense- it shouldn’t take out any structural walls the way a 12 guage might


20 posted on 02/24/2013 10:58:59 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: bgill
“I thought we were only supposed to need 2-4 rounds to take down home intruders”

We have been told by Biden how many shells we need - two for a shotgun and shoot it outside the house and the zombies will run away.

According to Biden, I'm doing it all wrong: I have 36 cartridges loaded and ready to shoot. Darn, I wish I had listened to Biden. :o) Biden is dumb as a stump.

21 posted on 02/24/2013 11:12:39 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: RJS1950

That is when a laser designator sight is invaluable...


22 posted on 02/24/2013 11:58:05 AM PST by expat2
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To: heshtesh
The only sad part to this story is the fact he did’nt kill the other 2.:)

It's puzzling that there is no mention of the "young boy" who started the entire inident.
Voluntary participant?
Forced to participate?
Escaped?

What?

23 posted on 02/24/2013 12:02:17 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: bgill
That would be 6 rounds to stop one of the 3 bad guys. Wow, I thought we were only supposed to need 2-4 rounds to take down home intruders.

Biden, our Official National Clown, asserts that if you need more than one shot to protect yourself, you deserve to die... By extrapolation, three shots max to deal with three criminals, his 8 shot magazine is all you'd ever need.

Can't fix stupid.

24 posted on 02/24/2013 12:08:26 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: flaglady47
Tell that to Chicago and Detroit, LOL!

Detroit leads the nation in justified homicide ie self defense.

However the justifiable homicides are mixed in with the murder numbers to "puff up" the numbers for gun grabber groups.

25 posted on 02/24/2013 12:29:37 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: Mr. K
Thats whay I got a 410 shotgun for indoor home defense- it shouldn’t take out any structural walls the way a 12 guage might

Now that there's lots of ammo options, Here Come De Judge!

I carry it in the car as an anti car-jacker - with Winchester PDXI ammo:

As the French say, "FORMIDABLE!"

You reminded me to get another one for the house instead of my 38 snubbie.

26 posted on 02/24/2013 12:33:48 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Mr. K
A follow-up on my last post. Just ran into THIS interesting web page which showed target spreads with handguns and shotguns using various loads.
27 posted on 02/24/2013 12:41:42 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Gaffer
If the suspects had been white, the media story would have led with that! You know what’s going on here.

Sure, I know what's going on here, you were too lazy to watch the video and jumped off the cliff to conclusions.......

28 posted on 02/24/2013 12:42:18 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Rebelbase

Your sarcasm is warranted. No sense in our being racists just because the leftists are racist.


29 posted on 02/24/2013 12:45:43 PM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Slump Tester
What are the odds of the perps being white? (Or even legals for that matter?)

Since I took the time to watch the video, I'd say 100%. Care to bet against me or would you rather take this time to remove your foot from your mouth?

30 posted on 02/24/2013 12:46:12 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Mr. K
Thats why I got a 410 shotgun for indoor home defense- it shouldn’t take out any structural walls the way a 12 guage might.

The problem with any shotgun is when you go around a corner or go thru a doorway the shotgun will protrude and allow a perp to grab it.

31 posted on 02/24/2013 12:48:58 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: RoosterRedux

A white guy with glasses being apprehended for a home invasion means: drugs.

White
+
Prescription Glasses

Sure, white guys do regular burglary home invasions, but white guys with glasses just do them for drugs.


32 posted on 02/24/2013 12:52:08 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
but white guys with glasses just do them for drugs.

Or collectible computer equipment.


33 posted on 02/24/2013 1:02:16 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: tbpiper

I think a DB shotgun would have handled the situation just fine. You just better not miss with your first round when you’ve got three opponents.

Plug the first one and threaten the other two. Although they are generally tearing out the door at that point.

I think an auto or pump shotgun would be a better idea.

I’m not clear why everybody’s all over Biden for his remarks. Lots of gun types think shotguns are the right first choice for home defense, though admittedly few would recommend a double-barrel.


34 posted on 02/24/2013 1:07:19 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Oatka

I’m a first time gun buyer...looking for home piece. I am looking at a 9mm conceal or the Judge. Still up in the air right now. I like what I see with the Judge.


35 posted on 02/24/2013 1:13:22 PM PST by oust the louse (You need your parents signature to go on a school field trip but not to get an abortion.)
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To: oust the louse
. . . looking for home piece. I am looking at a 9mm conceal or the Judge. Still up in the air right now. I like what I see with the Judge.

IMO, you can't beat the Judge for home defense, or other close range situations. Check THIS out on YouTube.

The cups have the impact of a three 32 Auto rounds, BUT, he now has a LOT of holes in him and is leaking pretty bad. And, the shot won't penetrate walls and take out the neighbor.

36 posted on 02/24/2013 1:35:54 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I’m not clear why everybody’s all over Biden for his remarks.

Because Biden starts out being a fool and then gets rapidly worse. Generally Biden's advice was to fire two waring shots and the problem would go away. That would leave you with an empty gun and a perp completly unharmed and totaly dangerous if he still had the intent.

In this case, in a home with perps intespersed with loved one,a weapon with more traget disgression than a shotgun is more appropriate.

37 posted on 02/24/2013 1:42:21 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Sherman Logan
According to Uncle Joe the homeowner should have walked outside and fired 2 rounds randomly into the air.

People are all over Joe about this because his statement was stupid. That this idiot is a heartbeat away from the presidency is truly scary.

38 posted on 02/24/2013 1:49:07 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: tbpiper
In this case, in a home with perps intespersed with loved one,a weapon with more traget disgression than a shotgun is more appropriate.

Most of your points are fine, but this is just silly. Most gunfights within a home would take place at no more than 25' or so, usually less. At such ranges shot, even with a cylinder choke, just doesn't disperse much. With most loads I suspect you would get a pattern only 4" to 8" across at most, which doesn't really pose much of a threat to your family.

I'm perfectly willing to agree there are lots of times a rifle such as the AR-15 is better for defense than a shotgun, but inside a home or at other really short ranges I don't think there is any real advantage.

39 posted on 02/24/2013 1:54:18 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Eagles6

I agree the specifics were dumb, but some comments seem to take him to task for saying a shotgun is a better choice for home defense than an AR-15, which is I believe a perfectly defensible position.

You may disagree, but it’s not a stupid opinion.


40 posted on 02/24/2013 2:28:15 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Mr. K
Go to a range, fire a few rounds and check out he size of a hole the .410 slug leaves ;)
It's a good weapon.
41 posted on 02/24/2013 4:18:40 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Oatka

Thanks...may buy the judges and save a few bucks BUT buy a .38 or maybe a .22 ruger (the new 2 piece)with a bigger magazine.


42 posted on 02/24/2013 6:45:34 PM PST by oust the louse (You need your parents signature to go on a school field trip but not to get an abortion.)
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To: Sherman Logan

A shotgun may be good in a certain situation. He said that’s all you need, a double barreled shotgun and all you need to do in an emergency is go outside and fire 2 rounds (emptying the firearm) randomly into the ether. THAT is stupid.


43 posted on 02/25/2013 12:27:52 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Sherman Logan

Also an AR is easier to use for someone of slighter build. More accurate, less recoil... He truly is just an idiot.


44 posted on 02/25/2013 12:31:46 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Oatka

Your chart is wrong. It only has a 12-inch spread at 10 feet being the maximum spread. Biden told me one blast from a shotgun will take out an entire room full of bad guys.

(Thanks for the chart. While a shotgun will do A LOT of damage, you still need to point/aim it at the center of mass of the bad guy.)


45 posted on 02/25/2013 1:02:38 AM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Oatka
Did you say "Judge"? Here is my "Circuit Judge" (which I hope I don't lose in a tragic boating accident)


46 posted on 02/25/2013 11:23:34 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Calvin Locke

A friend of mine would tell you that 12-gauge 00 buckshot is hell on kitchen cabinets.


47 posted on 02/25/2013 3:04:38 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Mr. K

That’s an interesting gun. I handled a few of them at some recent gun shows and thought they were more of an oddity or overkill and not really useful. Then I read about some Floridians who go out horseback riding and use this handy weapon to take out wild pigs with the 45 Colt or snakes with the .410.

You learn something every day.


48 posted on 02/25/2013 4:08:18 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka
yeah I saw it and thought I had to have it... I don't know why

It shoots bot .45 cal bullets and 410 shotgun, and is a 5 shooter revolver- which is neat.

its still sitting in the box

plus I think 410 shotgun shells are just as cute as a button- and I could teach my yong daughters to shoot without scaring them silly like a 12-guage might, or knocking them on their butt I think if you shortened it to the legal limit you have something very maneuverable when the zombie Apocalypse comes

49 posted on 02/25/2013 6:21:11 PM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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