Skip to comments.Gaining Momentum: Now 44 Gun Companies Have Stopped Selling to Law Enforcement In Anti-2A States
Posted on 02/24/2013 9:19:05 AM PST by EXCH54FE
The list of companies that have stopped selling firearms and ammunition to law enforcement agencies in states that are restricting the Second Amendment has more than doubled since Wednesday and is more than five times larger than just one week ago. There are 44 companies on our list, with more being added as we receive notification. Here are the additions since Wednesday: Barrett Firearms Exile Machine Tier One Arms Bravo Company USA Primary Weapons Systems Crusader Weaponry Top Gun Supply Kiss Tactical Clark Fork Tactical OFA Tactical One Source Tactical Templar Tactical Arms NEMO Arms Old Grouchs Military Surplus Big Horn Armory Midway USA CMMG Inc Rocky Top Tactical Badger Peak Controlled Chaos Arms SRT Arms Norton Firearms Citizen Arms Evolution Weaponry Doublestar Corp JCW Industries Huntertown Arms
Heres a sample of statements from some of the recent additions to the list as well as the positions of the companies that have reached out to TheBlaze directly to declare their policy shift:
Steve Adelmann of Citizen Arms shared the following from his companys statement, made the day after New York changed its laws:
Due to legal, ethical and moral concerns, Citizen Arms offers only those custom firearms that are legal for all lawful citizens of a given state to possess, regardless of law enforcement status. LE personnel living in states where citizens must have restrictive features will only receive like product support from Citizen Arms. Were very appreciative of the sacrifices made by the law enforcement community but were even more appreciative of the right guaranteed to all law-abiding US citizens by the Second Amendment to the US Constitution: A well regulated militia, necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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It’s time for Smith and Wesson, Glock, and Baretta to step up to the plate.
that is what I thought after I read the list.
I think it's time for a grass-roots boycott of those companies, until such time as they join in.
As I see it, no company can afford the risk of being blamed when a government agency or employee diverts weapons to civilians.
Does the name “Fast and Furious” ring any bells?
To the folks at MidwayUSA, THANKS! I buy most of my reloading supplies from them. I may have to make it ALL of my reloading supplies.
I imagine that Obama is going to unleash an army of bureaucrats from the IRS, EPA, et al as payback.
Let them buy from China, I’ve used Chinese hardware and I’d hate to have my life depend on it. Cops won’t like Chinese sidearms or Chinese ammo.
Also the following suppliers or manufacturers are moving or considering moving:
1. Creedmoor Sports from Oceanside, CA to Ft. McClellan, AL. Creedmoor Sports supports high power rifle shooters with custom arms and accessories on or about 15 April 2013.
2. MagPul Industries from Boulder, CO to a Free State.
3. Remington Arms from Ilion, NY to a Free State.
4. Beretta USA from Accokeek, MD to a Free State.
Or they could buy from what I suspect may be the personal gun collections of notable gun deniers like Don Perata of California, Feinstein and all of her anti-Constitutional-good-for-thee-but-not-for-me ilk.
Then again, the US Government, the largest international arms peddler on the planet, could start donating some of its billions of weapons to law enforcement instead of the drug cartels.
Doesn’t matter if the small players stop dealing with the government. The feds will simply buy from foreign suppliers, along with nationalizing the big arms companies in the US. China, russia, and companies in multiple NATO countries would be more than happy to make money off of a US government crackdown, civil war, or revolution. Wouldn’t be the first time its happened. The best thing for these small companies would be to sell to anyone and everyone not in government for as long as they can.
This is where Congress comes into play ~
I just wish that the Big Gum Mfg, Ruger, S&W and all the Big Ammo Mfg’s would join in this effort.
KISS Tactical for instance consists of about 6 people - including the kid who stands across the street waving the sign. (Ask yourself why an LEO from California who wanted to buy a duty weapon in Arizona would drive past Phoenix, carry on another 30 miles south and wander into small, second floor walk up gun shop way down in Maricopa.)
This is all good for propaganda purposes but until the big manufacturers start joining the boycott and moving facilities it don't mean nuthin.
And millions of defective rounds of ammo, much to the dismay of the LE who is defending himself against a well armed perp.
And to those who say the Chinese can make good ammo, of course they can. They will save that for themselves and give us the bad in preparation for any war with them.
What I suspect will happen is that Law Enforcement agencies will have officers buy their own weapons and reimburse them.
Cutting off LE sales to these enclaves of tyranny won’t affect the bottom line much. LE sales constitute 0.009 percent of a $32 billion industry. We need the big boys, both manufacturers and ammo and aftermarket suppliers to stand up. As Ben Franklin said: “If we do not hang together, we will most assuredly hang separately.”
I'd go even farther if it were me. If I found the laws of a given jurisdiction unreasonable, I wouldn't even sell the government the SAME stuff legal to sell the citizens. Course they'd just get around it by faking orders from individuals so you wouldn't know, but it would have symbolic value at least, plus the satisfaction gained from making them impersonate one of their bosses, a regular citizen.
Although I appreciate the moral support of these 44 companies, I suspect that their financial sacrifice is nil because they do little if any business in states like New York in the first place. The unofficial boycott will have no effect whatsoever unless and until the biggies like Glock, Sig, and S & W get on board, and that's not going to happen unless the average Joe in the private sector boycotts these companies. We need to put our money where are mouths are and stop buying from any company that sells to LEO in gun grabbing states.
I wish the ammo producers would join the fray. Before the 2 billion hollow points are shipped.
Since the States are passing the laws and the individual LEO's live in the restrictive states I suspect that will not work either.
Arizonas Kiss Tacticals Facebook page also carries a story about denying a California police officers request to purchase an AR-15.
On Saturday I refused to sell a AR-15 rifle to a police officer from California. He came into my shop and wanted to buy his duty gun in AZ because the same gun in his home state would cost him more. I told him that I would not sell him the gun even though he had his department letter saying he was able to buy it. I told him that if the gun was not legal for law abiding men and women in CA, I would not sell it to him. after he told me that civilians dont need them type of guns I asked to leave my shop. as he stomped out mad.
Looks like it is a real pizzer to be excluded from one's own double standard, huh?
Of course, the individual LEO's could resort to... THE GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE!
It is already being resorted to by the LEO's and should actually make them think twice about those anti-private sale laws and that universal registration BS.
This is all great news, but I do not believe that Obama and the libs will ever give up.
They intend to crush us and they will not stop.
Regrettably, a full out revolution may be necessary to save what’s left of our country.
The Caliph will issue an executive decree mandating firearms/ammo manufacturers sell to the .gov.
Okay, I need an “Old Grouch’s Military Surplus” store near me so I can shower them with business. That name rocks.
That’s exactly what I was thinking CC.
There’s is still something amiss. The demand seems to be high, there’s money to be made. And yet the shelves are pretty bare at local gun shops and on line dealers don’t have jack in stock.
It’s up to 62 companies...
Long term, China has yet to manufacture a single item that is high quality and reliable. None.
If we could get some of the big boys like Sig, Colt, S&W, Ruger, and Glock to sign on, we could REALLY put some pressure on them.
If LE starts using China made guns, I may take up bank robbing using American or German made firearms lol.
I will purchase my next fire arm from the first one that does...
Agreed. BUT, like the liberals, let the gun companies "make a statement". If the big guys join in (they need to hear from us) it can do nothing but cause embarrassment and perhaps shift the debate away from more laws. It's "woith a shot".
At the east it will show that we are no longer assuming the fetal position in these Jihads against gun ownership.
IT is high and production is slowly beginning to meet the demand. AR15 lower receivers were available but WAY overpriced at $450 each. They were $115 before Christmas.
Wha bout China ratest, the Grock, make fo porice?
“Wha bout China ratest, the Grock,make fo porice?”
I’m going to be laughing about that for days! Thanks! :-D
Just sent a very polite email to CZ-USA (CZ is my favorite brand), with a list of the products from them I own, a compliment on their website’s statement supporting the 2nd, and a request to join the reverse-boycott. They list some LEO-only products. No idea how much volume of business it represents, but the longer the list, the more pressure on the “big guns” to join.
I think if everyone contacts their “favorite” firearm brand, let them know how many Rugers (or whatever) you own, and ask them to join in, that can be as persuasive as the threat of a boycott. Not that I mind writing a follow-up nasty-gram, if it comes to that...
1. GLOCK ...?
I am a consumer, and I am an AMERICAN.
We can do it, call and tell them to stop sales to all of NY State, Police and Citizens. We have to pick one target and NY State is now the perfect target along with Cuomo.
Please read the following and send it along to every one you know:
Time to remind the LEFT-tards the power is the the People, us Gun owners:
Alinsky can work on Communists too! Every please do your part. Call the manufactures and demand they Boycott NY State Sales just like La Rue Tactical and Olympic Arms have!
Pin it all on Andrew Cuomo, make it Personal. We have the power to smack down this Communist bully: Please read the entire list....
Gun Control; Time to Fight
As consumers and 2nd Amendment advocates, we have to engage an economic boycott of all ammunition and firearms covering the entire State of NY; Citizens & Government while pulling an Alinsky Andrew Cuomo when executing the boycott. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules for Radicals)
The embargo ends when the current NY Government agrees all NY State Citizens have a 2nd Amendment Right to own any quantity and all types firearms, those made 400 years ago and those to be made in the future!
The firearms industry from top to bottom completely terminate sales of a firearms and ammunition to all of NY State, citizens to Government to include the Federal Government offices in NY State till the State of NY recognizes the US Constitution and its own State Constitution starting NOW.
To the Citizens aka Serfs in NY State
You will suffer till you elect representatives that respect the Constitutions. You made your bed, now go lie down in it! If you are a gun owner in NY you are a Serf, and it sucks to be you. If you are a believer
in Gun Control, great! Now your Government will have no guns too! NY Government can continue to prosecute the criminals without guns or ammunition.
To all Government in NY State
You want gun control for your Citizens and Taxpayers? Well the rest of us out here think that concept is flawed. The rest of the Country think you, the Government should be just as restricted or more so restricted than the law abiding taxpayer .how do you like not having Assault Rifles, High Capacity Magazines or no Ammunition now? If it sucks for you Mr & Mrs. Government Employee in NY State well it sucks to a NY State Citizen under the current laws too!
Respect your citizens/ taxpayer and Constitutions.
To Industry: Time to break the bullys face
Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren will be running on the 2016 Democrat Presidential ticket. With record sales in other markets, there will be zero impact if all NY sales terminated tomorrow. If the NY State Government along with the SAFE act are not reigned in, this cancer will only spread. Time to fight the bully and make the bully understand in no uncertain terms, the 2nd Amendment is very important, has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with citizens/sovereigns reigning in and eliminating out of control Government, foreign or Domestic.
To the Citizens of the other 56 States
Call every manufacturer of ammunition and firearms and tell them to stand up to Andrew Cuomo and the NY State Government by completely boycotting all sales to NY State till the SAFE Act, Assault weapons ban and any other restrictions to firearms ownership are removed. Respect the 2nd Amendment or pay the consequences. Boycott NY State or we as consumers will boycott your company!
Federal Ammunition, Winchester/OLIN, FN USA, FN Herstal, Remington, Freedom Firearms Group, Colt, S&W, Glock, Lewis Machine Tool, Heckler & Koch, Sig-Sauer etc.
Call the NRA and every other gun rights organization to support the industry boycott of NY State and make sure that Andrew Cuomo owns it!
Contact them all and tell them you support a NY State Firearms and Ammunition Boycott!
Mr. Cuomo owns this. Every Answer, every utterance about this initiative is his. This will end his chances for President in 2016.
When NY State Government Officials complain: ANSWER Call Andy
. When NYC Police Commissioner
Ray Kelly and NYC Mayor Bloomberg whines ANSWER: Call ANDY! When the UN security teams in
NYC complain .. answer Andrew Cuomo ..When hunters in NY complain: ANSWER: Andrew Cuomo .. when non gun owners fear the cops will not be armed: ANSWER Andrew Cuomo. When any NY State Citizen comments, complains, or utters any thought about their safety: ANSWER Andrew Cuomo.
If it drags on and a NY Citizen or Police Officer is killed due to no training ammunition the answer is: Andrew Cuomo
When the news media runs a story explaining the criminals gangs think this boycott is great cuz the Po
Po aint gots noz bullets . The answer is Andrew Cuomo
Andrew Cuomo is your fear, Andrew Cuomo is your pain, and Andrew Cuomo is your lack of security ..your lack of ammunition and firearms.. Governor Cuomo can heal that pain .
When Mr. Cuomo buckles: the left will hate him. The Left will punish him
NO negotiations, NO middle of the road,
Nothing but recognition of the Individual Taxpayers Rights to Firearms Ownership
When NY State Government recognizes the Rights of the Citizens, then and only then will sales resume
MAKE EVERY Gun Grabbing Democrat or Republican politician fear being Coumod by Taxpayers that believe in the Second Amendment.
The Common Sense Solution is already in place: Current NY State Constitution ARTICLE XII*
Section 1. The defense and protection of the state and of the United
States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature
shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized.
For clarity and intent here is the original language from 1777
XL. And whereas it is of the utmost importance to the safety of every State that it should always be in a condition of defence; and it is the duty of every man who enjoys the protection of society to be prepared and willing to defend it; this convention therefore, in the name and by the authority of the good people of this State, doth ordain, determine, and declare that the militia of this State, at all times hereafter, as well in peace as in war, shall be armed and disciplined, and in readiness for service.
(just a small observation: As read, the citizens of NY State should be fully armed the duty of every man , not the NY State Government or any Employee that takes a pay check from TAX REVENUE. Right now, it is completely backwards! NY State should be more like Switzerland of 2012 and less like Nazi Germany of 1938.)
US Constitution 2nd Amendment, which by the way is now in been affirmed as incorporated and defined to protect the individuals right to own firearms, via the Heller decision
If a citizen and Militia member in NY cannot own it, can neither a NY State Government Agency nor
Employee. That is common sense and that is the current Constitution!
Make Mr. Cuomo recognize that fact. See the rules below and start making Andy Cuomos political life painful or we will be dealing with him and his venal ilk in 2016!
RULE 1: Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. Power is derived from 2 main sources money and people. Have-Nots must build power from flesh and blood.
How: NY State Boycott of all arms and ammunition, starting with NY State Government, local
Government and all NY State Citizens/Taxpayers/Serfs
RULE 2: Never go outside the expertise of your people. It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
We all know firearms and the Second Amendment. Time to say NO to the Bullies in NY State!
RULE 3: Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
NY State Government will be clueless on how to handle a boycott by Industry initiated by Taxpayers from the other 56 States.
RULE 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
No Rights to own Firearms for Citizens = No Rights, exemptions, or any other weasel language to possess
Firearms or ammunition for Government Employees anywhere in NY
If a NY State Citizen cannot buy the firearms/magazines/ammunition
. Nor can a Government Entity or
Government Employee in NY State
RULE 5: Ridicule is mans most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is irrational. It is infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
Call Andrew Cuomo, he owns: your lack of Rights, your lack of security, or lack of ammunition or lack of firearms
RULE 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. Theyll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more.
Theyre doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
For those of us outside of NY State: More product available and we end this gun control issue for a while
For those in NY State: Think of this as Chemo-therapy for gun control cancer; the process is not very enjoyable, but the results of killing off the gun control cancer are worth it.
Enjoy watching the NY State bureaucrats squirm and fuss
Enjoy watching the anti- gun types freak when the Government is not armed either! Que Mike Bloomberg, NY Police Union types and the UN idiots guns for our security now! While leaving the taxpayers un-armed
ENJOY ANDREW COUMO GET POUNDED ON ALL SIDES and watch his 2016 chances go away!
RULE 7: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Dont become old news.
Start this MONTH, it wont last long!
Abe Lincoln took on slavery, so let us free taxpayers that enjoy firearms and the 2nd Amendment from being treated like Dred Scott honor Mr. Lincoln and start the BOYCOTT on 12 February 2013!
Call or e-mail every manufacturer of firearms and ammunition and demand they BOYCOTT all sales to NY STATE! Call and/or e-mail the NRA, NSSF, and SAMMI and demand they support a BOYCOTT of all firearms and ammunition to NY State to begin on February 12, 2013 starting with the NY State Government due to ANDREW Cuomo!
RULE 8: Keep the pressure on. Never let up. Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
The Boycott Ends when LAWS are repealed, not amended, not replaced
REPEALED and Law Abiding
Citizens & Taxpayers RIGHTS are recognized
RULE 9: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
NOT A THREAT. DEMAND a total BOYCOTT and make sure Andrew Cuomo owns it!
RULE 10: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is the unceasing pressure that will result in the reaction of the opposition that is essential for the success of the campaign.
The enraged Parties such as the NY State Police, Local Police, Government Employee Unions and finally
Citizens/Serf will be plenty of pressure on Mr. Cuomo.
RULE 11: If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive. Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
Common Sense will prevail
RULE 12: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Never let the enemy score points because youre caught without a solution to the problem.
No Compromise: The answers & solutions are already in place, the NY State Constitution and the US Constitution
RULE 13: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
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Amen. Have everyone you know and every gun club in your area call these companies and simply state: I will not purchase another (insert company name) till all sales to NY State period, citizens and any Government agency in NY State are halted. I the consumer will purchase said products when your company does that! When NY State changes their laws please resume your sales. This is all Andrew Cuomo’s fault by the way. Thank you !
Cut off all sales, the most important one is ammunition.
Make everyone in NY State suffer. The market has the power. CAll and e-mail the ammunition makers today! Cut off NY state, top to bottom.
Add Ammo2U to that list
That is fantastic and I never would have guessed/thought of this.
I used to pick up NORINCO ammo when I could get it - importation was banned by daddy Bush and I’m not so sure it still isn’t - some dealers smuggle it in from Canada I think.
It’s some of the best, cleanest, most powerful, reliable and accurate milsurp ammo I have ever used.
Bush banned the importation of Chicom firearms (also NORINCO brand) at the same time. He was no friend of the 2A as far as I can tell, although he was otherwise quite cozy with the Chicoms.
If our Deer Leeder can nationalize GM, why can’t he do the same for S&W, Colt, or any of the other ones if he wants to? If they don’t want to be taken over by the fascists in charge (or nationalized by the communist in charge) they won’t go playing games like shutting off the jackboots who serve the regime.
These dissident suppliers may very well be made examples of in the near future.
If a bakery can be sued out of existence for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a homo couple, or a photographer can be bankrupted for refusing to take pictures of a gay wedding, what makes us think that these gun or accessory producers / retailers are going to get away with such “discrimination” against the government?
That which a tyrant cannot control, they must destroy... and they usually do wherever they can get away with it.
Would not be surprised if some of these dissenters get a little surprise visit from the federal gestapo like Gibson Guitars did. I wonder what bribe they failed to pay?
Would not be surprised if some of the jackboot’s weapons “accidentally” went off into the backs of some of the owners and CEO while they are being strip searched in front of their terrified employees.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Executives get SWATTED at zero dark thirty, and at least have their dogs shot and homes ransacked as a “warning”.
The jackboots are confident that no one will dare resist or retaliate, and they are probably right.
We’ll just wait and see how long this outbreak of dissent lasts.