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1 posted on 02/24/2013 10:22:42 AM PST by Lorianne
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Teachers’ unions...huge contributors to the Rat Party...don't want their members evaluated in any concrete way.As is the case with just about all branches of government,teachers’ unions are just a multi,*multi* billion dollar a year scam and hustle and has been for decades.
2 posted on 02/24/2013 10:31:41 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Lorianne

Opps...”has been” = “have been” (hey,I went to public schools)


3 posted on 02/24/2013 10:33:42 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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If you can’t meet the standard, there must be something wrong with the standard. It couldn’t possibly be you.


4 posted on 02/24/2013 10:36:37 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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Hey,I'll bet that every single doctor who's ever laid a hand on Osama Obama & Family has taken a “high stakes” test or two in his/her day.
5 posted on 02/24/2013 10:36:43 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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The Democrats need an endless supply of low information voters. The process marches on........

Control the nation’s youth to control the nation’s future. The left has known this for generations now.


6 posted on 02/24/2013 10:36:55 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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All “groups” don’t get the same scores.
AND
Teachers could be evaluated.
THUS:

THESE HERE TESTS BE BAD!


7 posted on 02/24/2013 10:38:06 AM PST by Flintlock (WHICH SIDE)
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In other words, standardized testing only works for students who speak English and have parents who give a rats butt about their kids and teachers that really care about a childs education. None of those items fit in with obama’s plans to keep the masses on his plantation.


9 posted on 02/24/2013 10:42:56 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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Standardized testing is a good way to evaluate a student’s knowledge and ability but it is not a particularly good way to evaluate a teacher. Stupid people have stupid kids so any teacher that works in the ghetto is automatically penalized with a class full of morons.

Also, when principals become focused on test scores, the brightest students become virtual ghosts in the classroom. Teachers spend their time dragging morons over the line to pass and the smart kids play on the computer after quickly mastering the rudimentary skills that escape the dummies.

Leftists and teachers created this problem by making teachers political state employees who are difficult to fire. After seeing enough government class employees, the public has no faith in teachers and yet they foolishly allow the government to intervene even further by mandating testing and scores. Now good teachers are punished with the worst kids while weak teachers are given the best and brightest or are sheperded out of testing grades.

Until we have the political will to break the teachers unions and return schools to local or *gasp* private control, it will continue to get worse. If you have the ability or the means get your kids out of public school.


10 posted on 02/24/2013 11:04:18 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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What? No mention of “norming” (hiding the decline)? Did you know that SAT scores today have 500 points added to what the scores were in 1967? i.e. a combined (math and English) SAT “score” of 1200 today would have been a combined score of 700 in 1967. http://knowhow2go.org is recruiting students from the criminal and illiterate generation with your tax money. Schools are offering a 100% online MBA in Social Media. The Navy is having to pay $70,000+ bonuses for E-5s with nuclear qualifications to reenlist. The Left has successfully destroyed a large part of the country’s ability to create educated, useful people.


11 posted on 02/24/2013 11:25:50 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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A test is a tool. It is a means of determining the effectiveness of the teaching. It is a means of “seeing” the student. To take away this tool would be to blind the teacher in one area. It also blinds the parents and the society. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with national testing. How that information is used, is a different story. It’s like saying we should do away with thermometers because we don’t like fevers.


12 posted on 02/24/2013 11:35:13 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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a few thoughts on std tests...

1)ALL students should have to take the same test else you are comparing apples and oranges when it comes to who is learning and who isn't from state to state

2)i have NO problem teaching to the test so long as what is on the test is what's required to function in the real world, get a job or continue their education, the problem is they have been teaching to the test for years and STILL half can't pass it

3)i think employers should have MUCH MORE SAY as to what is on the tests and required to graduate!

YMMV

13 posted on 02/24/2013 11:37:26 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Lorianne

Not one useful thing in all of this academic palaver. Not even a mention of the other important “competencies” that need to be recognized.


14 posted on 02/24/2013 11:48:35 AM PST by plangent
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If standardized testing were used as a criterion for who could run for public office, the world would be very, very different (and in my view, better). Whereas I do not think that standardized testing is the ultimate determinant of ability and worthiness, I absolutely unequivocally do not think that where you went to college is a good determinant, and right now going to Yale or Harvard law school is a ticket to credibility in politics. I personally feel, very, very strongly, that standardized testing should be available for anyone to take to prove they’ve mastered a specific topic. If I never formally studied law, but used other available resources to learn it, and then passed the Bar, why should I not be able to say that I have fulfilled the basic criteria for being a lawyer?


16 posted on 02/24/2013 11:51:49 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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They don’t want teachers held accountable if kids don’t learn anything but a girl who complains about a tranny-for-a-day in the girls bathroom can be punished.

insane


17 posted on 02/24/2013 12:29:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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It’s simple. really. All our Massachusetts children are Above Normal.


18 posted on 02/24/2013 12:57:05 PM PST by Makana
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