Posted on 02/25/2013 6:59:06 AM PST by Kaslin
The left claims to care about the environment, but whenever they get together in large numbers, there is trash laying everywhere.
Deferment of responsibility, ie, the opposite of personal responsibility, is core to their ideology.
Assessing a Coal-to-Liquids Fuel Industry in the United States
http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9342/index1.html
... the technology for converting coal to liquid fuel already exists, and production costs from initial facilities appear competitive at world oil prices in the range of $55 to $70 per barrel.
Chemical looping is an advanced technology that offers several advantages over traditional combustion. In a chemical-looping system, a metal oxide, such as an iron oxide, provides the oxygen for combustion. The metal oxide releases its oxygen in a fuel reactor with a reducing atmosphere, and the oxygen reacts with the fuel. The reduced metal cycles back to an oxidation chamber where the metal oxide is regenerated by contact with air. The metal oxide is then reintroduced into the fuel reactor, thus completing the loop. Since CO2 separation occurs simultaneously with coal conversion, chemical looping offers a low-cost scheme for carbon capture. The process can produce power, synthesis gas, or hydrogen in addition to high-purity CO2.
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/news/techlines/2013/13005-OSU_Researchers_Advance_Chemical_L.html
Interesting. Thanks.
Likely a far more practical solution to our energy needs than worthless windmills, solar panels and the ethanol boondoggle. However the Obama administration will continue to champion losers based on environmental junk science and crony capitalism.
You can count on it
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/news/techlines/2013/13005-OSU_Researchers_Advance_Chemical_L.html
Here is the study that 5 million taxpayer dollars was spent on....in a welfare money for scientists scam. Hey they gotta eat too! Who here is so cruel to deny a university carbon capture scientist a living and his grad assistants too? They gotta eat, those beans and eggs dinners get old fast. I see no mention of coal>>>liquids which would make some sense for transportation. All I see is Rube Goldberg BS to capture and compress CO2 and send it somewhere (did not read all the way down) So, as I suspected (before even reading this study) all they are doing is reinventing the wheel but a much much more expensive wheel. All stemming from CO2 paranoia, the great global warming scam and racket. Read James Delingpole for more about shameless green rip off artists with their foreign owned windmill companies despoiling the English countryside these scammers are in the UK. And getting subsidies up the wazoo. Plenty of money to be made on global warming
http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=coal-australian&months=120¤cy=eur
Thermal coal is roughly $100/metric ton. This process adds $40/ton when installed in a new coal to electric plant. To retrofit an older plant is either impossible or absurdly high (my guess)
The $40 figure is probably a lie so double this $80. So you are doubling the cost of the coal you burn to make electric. Just trash and decommission the old coal burning plants and built these white elephants. The numbers might work out under Obama style socialism with some green subsidies
Dammit Dennis, I've written two books detailing green ripoffs. I've published lengthy and oft cited materials here on FR about green racketeering in the energy business. I stand on the position that most of this green corruption is financed by the tax-exempt "charitable" foundations belonging to major stockholders in the oil and gas business. All I was pointing out to you is that natural gas makes for a lousy transportation fuel and that this is where the work mentioned in this article is targeted, not stationary electrical power generation. My comment had NOTHING to do with the relative merit of what these academics had produced. As I am concerned, it wasn't even worth reading about.
Please remember whom you are addressing before popping off.
You know the subject matter better than I do. I hust get pissed when read about carbon sequestrations scams and research. What they do is take a smokestack and stick it into the ground and other mad-cap schemes... All gov’t funded of course. None of these do-gooders works for free
Carbon sequestration, endangered specious, non-point pollution, pro-depravity, "education"... name a branch of "science" other than for industrial development that has not become an outrage. Eisenhower's farewell address rings more true with each passing political term.
Yet the basic problem is that even the best "scientists" are in fact badly educated. Here is what I think needs to be done about that.
Bingo. What really kicked off the environmental movement among the elite was the fact that the 'commoners' -- the rising middle class in the West, started showing up at places that were once their own private pleasure spots. It melded perfectly with Marxism in that the real enemy was not the aristocrats, but the Bourgeoisie -- i.e. the middle class.
The leftist environmental craze is nothing more than the self anointed elite "intellectuals" trying to maintain their elite status and privileges by attempting to destroy the middle class who they have always hated.
What good is it for the guy who is the world renowned expert in linguistics if he has to rub elbows with some peon who made millions by inventing a better mouse trap?
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