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Borking Immigration Hawks
National Review Online ^ | February 25, 2013 | John O'Sullivan

Posted on 02/25/2013 6:00:47 PM PST by OddLane

Mario, I really think we are going to have to sit down around a decent bottle of Argentinean Malbec and thrash these matters out amicably. So, in the meantime, I don’t want to throw a match onto the tinder you’ve been gathering around the stake for your auto-da-fe. You should at least modify your condemnation of immigration hawks, since you are the one going up in flames.

Very briefly, here’s why: You are alleging that immigration hawks are not conservatives and don’t deserve conservative allies because some of them are (coercive) population controllers. In order to make this stick logically, you would have to demonstrate that there are no conservative grounds for a policy of lower immigration and no conservative immigration hawks who are not also population controllers.

You don’t demonstrate that, and you can’t do so, because there are many such conservative arguments: for instance, that open-door immigration reduces the incomes of American workers through the law of supply and demand; that it redistributes income perversely from the poor to the rich; that it has fiscal costs that overwhelm any fiscal benefits; that the diversity born of immigration reduces trust and social cooperation; etc., etc., etc.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; immigration; nationalreview

1 posted on 02/25/2013 6:00:50 PM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane

When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?

This is a question: Should Mexican citizens when in the US be given the same rights American citizens are given while in Mexico? This has yet to appear on any US legislator’s questionaire from either chamber....ASK YOUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS WHY IT HASN’T

What makes it necessary for US to subjugate our sovereignty because of available cheap labor ?

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections

2 posted on 02/25/2013 6:52:23 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: OddLane

They never discuss publicly the target number of legal immigrants per year. This is something discussed behind closed doors evidently, but they never have and never will discuss it with the citizenry. How many people will we admit each year; how did we arrive at that number; what quota will we allow each country and how will we arrive at that number...

They will not ask the citizens their opinion nor will they ask the citizens for permission.

I suggest we make the number public. And give give it a sliding scale so that you only reach the full quota when unemployment is at 5% or less reducing to, say, zero when unemployment is above 7%.

Aside from that, secure the border, reduce cross-border illegal immigration to near zero, and enforce the law. Nothing fancy, just build the fence and enforce the law.

Immigration law and policy should serve the interest of citizens. The right to come to the US is not automatic; if you are going to share your country with someone you have the right to a voice in deciding the numbers and the criteria.

3 posted on 02/25/2013 8:35:45 PM PST by marron
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To: OddLane

National Review, rah rah rah. These guys still read P.G. Wodehouse and no one makes them.

4 posted on 02/25/2013 9:19:48 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

I wish O’Sullivan were still editor-in-chief though.

5 posted on 03/04/2013 8:55:34 PM PST by OddLane
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