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To: G Larry

I read more about this today and it seems to be aimed at those that the VA has decided have mental issues; according to what I read there is no hearing required to determine competency, it is a VA determination. If that is the case it is really over the top- if they were civilians it would take a hearing and rulings with defense possible. I know the military and the VA have a big push on now for mental health concerns due to PTSD, suicide, and other issues.

Returning military are urged to seek mental health for many issues that may or may not mean they are incompetent or suicidal or a risk with firearms so I don’t agree with this without the same type of oversight it takes to declare a civilian incompetent.

I would sure like to know more about the process involved and if it is true they do not have a hearing with the chance to present their side if they don’t agree.


11 posted on 02/25/2013 6:51:20 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

“After the war, they took Army dogs and rehabilitated them for civilian life. But they turned soldiers into civilians immediately, and let ‘em sink or swim.”
—Audie Murphy

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18 posted on 02/25/2013 7:06:26 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Tammy8

About 4 or 5 years ago, the VA started doing intake “wellness” type questions on patients seeking care at VA facilities. Things like “do you smoke, how muchj” do you drink, how much” “ do you feel depressed” “ what meds are you taking” etc. It seems harmless but I was told by one of the nurses there are actually correct answers to some of the questions. What they weren’t telling people was that the responses were scored with certain levels (if I said I drink two drinks three times a week, for example) it’s considered abuse bordering on alcoholism. Totaled together these scores allow them to slot you into different categories...one of which is the Brady provisions for firearms. This seems to be accelerated since the Newton shooting and the executive orders. I haven’t been back to VA since those, but the Executive order saying that doctors should ask about gun possession may be in effect at the VA (as they’re subject to Executive order). I wonder if you can plead the fifth. Good question for an attorney.

Personally, I’d rather trust in my ability to deal with the crazy people than the benevolence of the government.


22 posted on 02/25/2013 7:29:37 PM PST by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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