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Newtown shooter motivated by Norway massacre, sources say
CBS ^ | February 18, 2013 | Bob Orr, Pat Milton

Posted on 02/26/2013 9:43:11 AM PST by Moonman62

Law enforcement sources say Adam Lanza was motivated by violent video games and a strong desire to kill more people than another infamous mass murderer.

Sources say Lanza saw himself as being in direct competition with Anders Breivik, a Norwegian man who killed 77 people in July 2011.

Breivik killed eight with a bombing in downtown Oslo. He then moved to a nearby island where hunted down and fatally shot 69 people, mostly teenagers attending a summer camp.

Two officials who have been briefed on the Newtown, Conn., investigation say Lanza wanted to top Breivik's death toll and targeted nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School because it was the "easiest target" with the "largest cluster of people."

Evidence shows that his mind, sources say, Lanza was also likely acting out the fantasies of a video game as he killed 20 first graders and six adults at the school. For Lanza, the deaths apparently amounted to some kind of "score."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adamlanza; banglist; breivik; guncontrol; gunfree; lanza; newtown; newtownshooting; norway; oslo; sandyhook; sandyhookshooting; schoolshooting; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/26/2013 9:43:15 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62
Good thing it's illegal to teach "Thou shalt not kill."
2 posted on 02/26/2013 9:47:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Moonman62
Two officials who have been briefed on the Newtown, Conn., investigation say Lanza wanted to top Breivik's death toll and targeted nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School because it was the "easiest target" with the "largest cluster of people."

Well, the obvious solution to this news is that we need to make even larger, easier targets. /liberal loon mode

3 posted on 02/26/2013 9:51:42 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Moonman62
any statements about the shooter's intent are mere speculation

Exactly, so why write the article?

4 posted on 02/26/2013 9:52:55 AM PST by bgill
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To: Moonman62

Does anyone know if that security camera footage from the Newtown High School parking lot turned out to exist? It, purportedly, showed his car enter and exit the school’s parking lot just before the shooting at the elementary school.


5 posted on 02/26/2013 9:57:47 AM PST by pioneerstakethearrows
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To: Moonman62

Sounds like “copycat” is contagious.


6 posted on 02/26/2013 9:58:08 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Moonman62

HHmmmm! A recluse. No friends. Speaks to no one. Computers and cell phones smashed. Leaves no notes, diary, manifesto. And these morons know this because?????????????????????


7 posted on 02/26/2013 9:59:57 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: pioneerstakethearrows

It doesn’t exist. Stop listening to paranoid nutjobs online.


8 posted on 02/26/2013 10:02:33 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Moonman62

I have been saying to anyone who would listen and some who would not that the media glorifies the murderer, leading perverted individuals to admire them and imitate them.

I will not back down from this statement.

The media should NOT print their picture. They should NOT print their manifesto (they all have one, eh?). Their name should be changed to “Random a$$ho!e.”


9 posted on 02/26/2013 10:05:42 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Moonman62
Anyone know when detailed and factual information will come out on this tragedy? Things like was there a gun safe in the home of the kid's mother, did he have any meds or controlled substances in his system at the time of the shooting, information on ejected high capacity magazines and the number of rounds fired from them and/or the number of rounds still within the magazines, details on the computer hard drive that he destroyed and its contents.

Thanks

10 posted on 02/26/2013 10:18:25 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: pioneerstakethearrows

“It, purportedly, showed his car enter and exit the school’s parking lot just before the shooting . . ..”

Iforgot; was Lanza apprehended at the school?


11 posted on 02/26/2013 10:19:16 AM PST by Elsiejay
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To: Robert357

All of the strick new laws regarding medical privacy such as HIPAA make it incredibly difficult to release medical information, even about the deceased, such as their prescription drugs.

This is what people wanted but then when there’s a case where people desperately want medical information about someone, then they’re upset.


12 posted on 02/26/2013 10:21:34 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
I just read that Ted Kaczynski was a subject victim of some CIA LSD expementer at Harvard.

"It turns out that Theodore Kaczynski, a.k.a. the Unabomber, was a volunteer in mind-control experiments sponsored by the CIA at Harvard in the late 1950s and early 1960s."

"the man experimenting on the young Kaczynski was Dr. Henry Murray"

"The overall program was under the control of the late Sidney Gottlieb, head of the CIA's technical services division. Just as Harvard students were fed doses of LSD, psilocybin and other potions, so too were prisoners and many unwitting guinea pigs."

This couldn't have been good for old Ted.

13 posted on 02/26/2013 10:41:03 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Elsiejay

Yes. His body was found at the school. I think he shot himself when he saw law enforcement responding to the 911 calls.


14 posted on 02/26/2013 10:55:28 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Doc Savage
And these morons know this because?????????????????????

According to this report, Report on Adam Lanza's Motive in Sandy Hook Shooting "Simply Not Factual": Police that motive is "simply not factual," State Police Lt. Paul Vance told NBC Connecticut.

However, the report goes on to say this:

........."An unnamed law enforcement official told NBC News that Lanza had collected material on previous mass shootings. "But there was nothing that outlined his plans or said he that was trying to outdo a previous shooting," the source to NBC News.

According to the Hartford Courant, investigators found news articles about Breivik in Lanza's bedroom, but are only looking as the 20-year-old's interest in Breivik as one possible theory. ".................

So, that's where the speculated motive came from.
15 posted on 02/26/2013 11:12:50 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Moonman62

Theoden: So much death. What can men do against such reckless hate?

Two competing strategies:
Aragorn: Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!
American left: Blow your whistle!


16 posted on 02/26/2013 11:14:00 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Robert357
Anyone know when detailed and factual information will come out on this tragedy?

Well, one of the few interviewed children acknowledged that the entire "shooting" was really a drill. Another child indicated that there was a lot of "banging on the walls," but never mentioned the distinct sound of gunfire during his interview. Out of the mouth of babes shall come the Word of God...

Add those two facts into the litany of terrible actors and pathological liars posing as "grieving families" and "witnesses" like Gene Rosen, Sally Cox, Soto's "brother" and so forth....

.... And you end up with a manufactured BS product created and supported by democrats in order to sway emotions against gun ownership in this Country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of the democrat lies. We can go by photographs alone. Here is Robbie Parker as he "grieves" over his "murdered daughter" at her "funeral."


17 posted on 02/26/2013 11:24:58 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Girlene

Who is to say that the “unnamed law enforcement official” really exists, and that this is just another Sandy Hook LIE promulgated by the same DEMOCRAT people who placed machine guns into the hands of Mexican Drug Cartels in order to blame it all on lawful gun owners in the USA?


18 posted on 02/26/2013 11:28:25 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Prole

The shootings happened.


19 posted on 02/26/2013 11:45:34 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene
Sure they did. Grieve on with the liars and fakers.


20 posted on 02/26/2013 12:18:28 PM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Moonman62
Sandy Hook elementary school gunman Adam Lanza learned to shoot from his gun-collecting mom
NYDN ^ | December 15, 2012 | Matthew Lysiak , Dennis Slattery AND Corky Siemaszko

Excerpt:
"Lanza’s dad, Peter, a successful financial services expert, was divorced from his mother. But it was the dad, who reportedly took the divorce hard. And he made sure his ex, and his kids, were well provided for.

Peter Lanza was paying his ex annual alimony payments that started at $240,000 and would have reached $298,800 in 2015. He left her the family home before he decamped for Stamford.
"


21 posted on 02/26/2013 12:25:49 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: I want the USA back

The only way to do that would be for fines and “common sense” regulations on the 1st Amendment.

It’s not like the presstitutes will ever police themselves.


22 posted on 02/26/2013 2:19:41 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Strategerist

All of the strick new laws regarding medical privacy such as HIPAA make it incredibly difficult to release medical information, even about the deceased, such as their prescription drugs.

That is NOT true.If the Police are conducting an Investigation all they need to do is get a Judge to sign a Search Warrant and they will have more than enough information.

What angers me about this incident is how the State of Connecticut is in a cover-up mode.

This kid is dead,there will be NO trial and yet they still have provided No solid information to the public on what medications he was on,Etc.

The State has No excuse.They should release the documents.The Public has the Right to Know.Especially when the Governor is trying to destroy our Second Amendment Rights.


23 posted on 02/26/2013 3:38:54 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Prole

I can’t say what I really want to say to you without getting banned from FR.

It angers me that little children get their guts splattered all over a school room while individuals like yourself continue to waste oxygen.

I live 15 minutes from Newtown and know some of these people. I knew some of the children. It was not a hoax and these are not secret servants of the Democrats. Some of them are moderate and conservative.

You have absolutely no right to tell someone how they should be grieving in public.

You are a DISGRACE to everyone who is trying to promote freedom and protect human dignity in this nation.


24 posted on 02/26/2013 7:00:01 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Moonman62; sickoflibs; Travis McGee
my question today is why we havent been shown any of the investigations evidence ??? pics of the crime scene would be worth more than all this speculation...

they did get the bad guy didnt they ??? so whats with this ongoing secrecy and mind humpin his 'motivations' ???

does it really matter *why* an evil nutbag made the jump from fantasy to reality ???

25 posted on 02/27/2013 5:03:58 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

“pics of the crime scene would be worth more than all this speculation...”

So you want them to release pictures of slaughtered children to the public so that numb-skulls can test their conspiracy theories?

I can’t imagine a greater insult to humanity and to God than to defame the dignity of murdered children!


26 posted on 02/28/2013 7:41:37 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Wanderer99
I can’t imagine a greater insult to humanity and to God than to defame the dignity of murdered children!

give yer shock and outrage a rest...since the first 10 minutes of sandy hook, theres been more dis-information and photo-oping than truth...

you want to end the *conspiracy theories* ??? then demand the damn evidence to be released to the public...it was a public incident, in a public school, and the evidence is being hidden from the public by layers of friggin public SERVANTS...

since youre so close to the action, maybe you could describe the number of rounds fired, the weapons used, the positions of spent casing relative to impacts in walls and floors...or how about on the scene video evidence or 911 calls, or eyewitnesses that can enlighten us as to the exact chain of events...

is everyone that laid eyes on the killer[s] dead ???

yep, the parents and the PTB have reasons to keep it closed to the 'public', but blood will be on their hands if the agenda proceeds and this really was more than just an evil lone nutbag...

27 posted on 02/28/2013 8:56:55 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

There is nothing new about the left trying to take guns away or the media being useless. However, they are probably going to win this time because they are no longer dealing with sane and intelligent enemies. I used to think that conservatives had higher IQs than liberals. After listening to the sandy hook conspiracy garbage and witnessing the unbelievable harassment, I no longer believe that this is universally true. America is finished and the future is oppression and death. Communism will get exactly what it wants. Thanks again for giving them what they wanted!

I’m not going to indulge your conspiracy garbage because it would be a complete waste of my time. You seriously think that terrified children and teachers were sitting there counting the rounds fired just in case they needed to answer to some conspiracy idiot? Or that neighbors were doing the same thing?

I really don’t see the difference between you and the 9/11 conspiracy nuts. It’s all pretty much the same nonsensical pandering.


28 posted on 03/01/2013 6:17:07 AM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Wanderer99

as if i give 2 sh!tz about yer opinion...piss off troll...


29 posted on 03/01/2013 9:56:11 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

You are the scum of the Earth. You know that right?


30 posted on 03/01/2013 8:16:02 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Wanderer99

thanks, coming from you, i appreciate the compliment...


31 posted on 03/01/2013 8:21:31 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Robert357

In response to this piece, Lt. J. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police told CBS News that the investigation into the motive for the Newtown shooting has not been completed and therefore any statements about the shooter’s intent are mere speculation.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57569958/newtown-shooter-motivated-by-norway-massacre-sources-say/

To my knowledge, Vance [a well-known manipulator of the press] hasn’t said a word about the massacre since 12/16 or so. All is shut down. Nary a word. I don’t trust Vance, as far as I can throw him. Dr. Henry Lee was the only person we have had in the ME office who is professional. During the time Lee was was here in CT, he was credible. All of this is speculation on the part of ABC, et al.

The press desperately wants to keep this Newtown story on the front burner.


32 posted on 03/01/2013 10:08:24 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Gilbo_3

I’m supposed to pray for you instead of getting angry but you are far more than just astray. Even if you are just a troll then the same is still true. Maybe you are actually a leftist who doesn’t believe in the value of anything or maybe you have simply lost your mind?

You don’t have any humanity left in you. No virtue. No compassion. Nothing. So it would probably be pointless to pray for your redemption.

Eventually you will die and everyone in the world will gladly forget that you ever existed because you brought absolutely nothing good into it.

I’m sure that you’re going to want to get the last word because deep down you realize that this is true. You already know that you have embraced evil. It was your choice.


33 posted on 03/02/2013 6:58:02 AM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Wanderer99
do you truly enjoy listening to yourself spew so much drool ???

you know nothing of me, and have nothing to possibly add or subtract from me...

your condescension reeks of libtroll

the fact that you have no desire to examine the public servants and their [lack of] evidence, which theyve now nationally based their anti 2A quest upon, tells me your either one of 'them' or are simply an ostrich that is too stupid to realize the amount of carnage that may come [think death of MILLIONS] if the agenda is pushed to its conclusion...

a lil discomfort by the families is a small burden to pay compared to the blood of millions on YOUR hands because examining the evidence makes you uncomfortable...

thanks for the laughs, and indeed, its been fun seeing how smarmy a progcomm can be...one again, piss off and have a great day in fantasyland...

34 posted on 03/02/2013 9:44:58 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

ok after looking at your past comments, I no longer believe that you are a liberal troll or genuine sociopath. I’m new to FR and didn’t realize that it was possible to look up past threads. However, you definitely have some severe mental issues resulting in unusual levels of paranoia. There is nothing wrong with believing in the dangers of a powerful government (I do too) but you are gradually crossing into a psychotic state of delusion. Given time you may lose touch with all of reality and become a danger to yourself and/or innocent third parties.

So for the time being I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt about your character...but you definitely need to seek help for your issues.

Are you convinced that the kids are still alive and that the parents and most residents of Newtown are Obama’s secret agents? If the answer to this question is yes then you may require a prescription for Risperdal or Zyprexa with Lithium supplement to give you some help with sensory perception and mental clarity.

Have you been exposed to environmental chemicals? Prolonged drug addiction? Prolonged psychological stress?


35 posted on 03/02/2013 12:38:10 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Daffynition
Thank for the update. I suspect that someone with an agenda is going to manipulate the content and timing of the report.
36 posted on 03/02/2013 1:10:20 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357

Exactly. The Emperor Governor, Malloy, Blumenthal, De Lauro, Lieberman, et al.

A major problem in Connecticut, is that the dems are so fiscally irresponsible....we are billions in debt, industry is moving out b/c of the high taxes, the gov release 2K convicted felons to save money on the prisons, so only the few souls remaining and stuck with the endless pandering to the political left and huge debt; besides the usual liberal salivating to eliminating guns.

Lt Vance [head state cop], is as far philosophically from a Joe Arpaio as one could imagine. He loves the police state he created.

Our pols have no historical sense that the gun industry helped build CT [Colt, Winchester, Ruger, Marlin, etc.] And our gun laws are among the most strict in the states.


37 posted on 03/02/2013 1:46:29 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Wanderer99
good luck with yer keyboard psychoanalysis and any attempts at ridicule comrade...alinsky doesnt work on me...

try peddlin your bs on somebody else, im a big boy and can handle examining the evidence for myself, but if you feel the need to swallow [quite regularly Id imagine] the propaganda, its still your choice...

better let you get back to trollin my past postings so you can find more ammo for tomorow...

38 posted on 03/02/2013 5:58:46 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Wanderer99

>> I live 15 minutes from Newtown and know some of these people.

Given your proximity, what is the general consensus on gun control in the area? Do the residents of Newtown hold the father accountable for the crimes committed by his troubled son?


39 posted on 03/02/2013 9:25:36 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Gene Eric

The area is not really that liberal on gun control. I’d estimate that half the town are strong believers in the second amendment. Many parents of surviving children at Sandy Hook have voiced their opinion on the subject at the town hall so this is a fair estimate.

I don’t really know what people think about the Lanza family. I’ve been very busy.


40 posted on 03/03/2013 8:33:49 AM PST by Wanderer99
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To: pioneerstakethearrows; stuck_in_new_orleans

I saw the same report on that, and want to know more about it either way. And I think stuck_in_new_orleans’ response to you was completely inappropriate. There’s nothing “conspiracy oriented” about such a thing, and I’ve been as anti-conspiracy on the Adam Lanza story as anyone here.


41 posted on 03/03/2013 10:32:09 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Moonman62

I think the motive for the massacre was gun control.


42 posted on 03/08/2013 3:54:30 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Prole
Makes you go hmmmmmmm... http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2107088/pg8
43 posted on 03/08/2013 3:58:19 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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