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Posted on 02/26/2013 6:34:06 PM PST by SoConPubbie
Kentucky's junior U.S. Senator says the Republican Party must broaden its appeal to voters by toning down some of its rhetoric on social issues. Rand Paul also thinks the GOP too often presents itself as a party "eager to go to war."
Paul, a first-term Senator from Bowling Green and rumored 2016 Presidential candidate, spoke to more than 500 Cincinnati-area Republicans over the weekend.
Paul said if Republicans hope to rebound from recent electoral disappointments, the GOP must find new ways to reach out to voters who disagree with the party on hot-topic issues such as abortion and gay marriage.
Were going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party, Paul told the audience.
This isn't the first time Paul has spoken out on the need for the GOP to refashion its approach. He was recently quoted as saying Republicans must "evolve and adapt", or else face continued losses on election day.
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The “So-Called” Conservative Rand Paul
Oh look, one of John Kerry’s 4 republican votes is advising the party on how to win elections.
Make that Chuck Hagel...
Playing nice gets you nowhere.
I think its time for all of our public servants to stop talking and get over the fantasy that they were sent to DC to negotiate what our positions are.
This is like saying my 1988 Wrangler needs a paint job when the frame is rusted through.
The problem is that EVERYONE knows it is a bluff. The GOP eventually capitulates on everything, every time.
Yes to Hagel
Yes to social decay
Looks like ‘no’ to Rand Paul.
Thanks for the ping, SoCon.
They are just two sides of one big party. I fear nothing short of revolution will change things.
The republicans don’t need a facelift, they need a forklift to carry their sorry behinds out of office.
That goes for you too mr “ defer to the pos in chief” Paul.
He is correct, to a certain point. We have to demonstrate our beliefs and explain why they are our beliefs. Discipline is critical, especially in the microscope of the 24/7 media onslaught. We can win being pro-life, we can’t win when the discussion is about rape victims. The gay marriage issue is a very split issue, but we shouldn’t allow ourselves to be painted as anti-gay. We have to explain that individuals can do whatever they want, but we believe marriage is between and man and a woman. We should demonstrate that a gay couple can get all the legal rights of a straight couple in terms of visitation rights, etc.
Our margin for error to win the White House is tiny at this point. The electoral college is not our friend any longer. Californians have migrated to NV, CO, and other western states but continue to vote like Californians. Northeastern people are migrating to VA, NC, and FL, but voting like New Yorkers and Bostonians. We have to sweep the red states of 2004 to win.
I’ve always thought that there is something a little tutti fruiti about the way he talks.
Stick a fork in him....he’s DONE in my book! Bah!
Sounding more and more like his dad daily.
The same Rand Paul who said he’d not vote to confirm Hagel until he got the information he wanted about his past, and more info about Benghazi...and today voted for him without either one being done...because Obama won and has a right to have his nominees approved. If we forget this stuff he’s pulling, we might as well commit suicide. He is quickly morphing into his father on Iran, Israel, moral issues, etc.
Rand Paul, I am an anti-Semitic sot like my dad.............beleive me the Republican Party needs to accept every thing and everybody.
We need to abandon all standards and morals, then people will like us.
(snip) ...we can win being pro-life, we cant win when the discussion is about rape victims. The gay marriage issue is a very split issue, but we shouldnt allow ourselves to be painted as anti-gay. We have to explain that individuals can do whatever they want, but we believe marriage is between and man and a woman. We should demonstrate that a gay couple can get all the legal rights of a straight couple in terms of visitation rights, etc
Okay, I'll bite. Assuming those are your beliefs, why are those your beliefs?
Not much to look forward to in the political arena. Rand Paul is just another opportunist making his move and pivoting. Here we go again.
If Ron Paul had a son.........oh wait.
I agree with him on being hands off on certain issues, only in that they are not Federal issues, and Washington must have nothing to say about them!! Keep them at the state level and then net the people decide under which state laws they want to live!! If you study the founding, that is how it was originally established, and why the “Civil War” was wrong!! And before I’m flamed, I’m defending states rights, and not slavery!!!
He'd like to blindfold and tie us up, and take us down to the river to worship Aqua Buddha.
Yes we can. Whistles vs Glocks.
Looks like that apple didn’t fall too far from the tree.
Color me very disappointed!
Nomination for post of the week!!
Rand Paul doesn’t need a face lift, he can just use his other one.
First, the political reality is that there is going to be change in this area. Second, there is no reason two people in a committed relationship cannot get legal rights for hospital visits, etc. Whether it is two gay people, two unmarried straight people, etc. Let’s say a husband and wife are married 40 years and one dies. Life expectancy is such that the remaining spouse may well develop a second relationship, but never marry. Those people should be able to gain many rights of a married couple in their later years.
Personally, I think the best route is to remove ‘marriage’ from the legal system all together. Marriage is a religious union, and the idea was adopted by government with little foresight we would reach this point. In the eyes of government, marriage is nothing more than a legal contract. Given the current situation, it needs to be remade to serve that purpose.
Our party needs to learn to talk about the issues that drive people away. Not capitulate on the issues, but handle them better. George Bush handled social issues magnificently and won two elections. Romney was the most socially liberal candidate we’ve had (based on his record in MA), and got trounced on these issues. Additionally, the needle has moved dramatically on gay marriage in the past 6 years. California overwhelmingly reject gay marriage not so many years ago, yet three states voted for it in 2012. We have to look for practical solutions to some of these realities...and not by adopting the other side’s position.
Well played. But I didn’t write the excerpt. ilgipper did. Duly pinged.
The Republican Party is in need of an enema.
I never was comfortable with Rand Paul and allways felt the apple did not fall far enough from the tree. Choosing him as the “tea party” front man in the presidential rebuttal makes the tea party a laughing stock. This is what RINOS GOPES the Roves and the Rands don’t know how to deal with this ...and because they refuse to refuse them time to place them into the refuse pail.
Does anybody remember what the Democrats did at their 2012 convention ??? First they eliminated any mention of the word GOD...and when they thought twice about doing that they reintroduced the resolution what happened ? They booed God..thrice..That resolution was rammed through just like the Affordable Health Care Act ...That’s a wedge issue within the democrat party.which was not exploited by Roves RINOS and GOPES and the Republicans generally to this day
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Just so all the pingees know where Rand Paul stands on social conservative issues. I guess he is like his father after all.
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I said earlier today the GOP needs a series of high colonics, plus some heavy parasiticide. Or vermifuge.
I sense your position is based more on government than on God. If I misunderstand, I am open to correction.
In your OP on this subject you said:
"We have to explain that individuals can do whatever they want." -- I submit to you that, especially in the area of health for homosexuals, and the known statistics regarding life expectancy of homosexual men and the burdens their lifestyle places on the health care system, that this is more a libertarian position than a conservative one. Do you agree? Are you in line with Paul and other Libertarians on this point?
"The gay marriage issue is a very split issue, but we shouldnt allow ourselves to be painted as anti-gay." -- On this site, the gay 'marriage' issue isn't split at all. We're against it and JimRob has made that abundantly clear. If you want the social conservative base to go away, go ahead and shout that message from the rooftop. The uber-RINO Mitt Romney learned what happens when you take your base for granted.
You did say one thing that really intrigues me:
"We have to look for practical solutions to some of these realities...and not by adopting the other sides position."
What are some practical solutions? What is 'not adopting the other side's position' if you give the marriage issue to a government led by the most feckless America-hater ever elected to public office? If you want to stay true to traditional conservative positions but instead give the marriage issue over to government, is your purpose truly served?
Thank you for the thoughtful comments.
Holding standards is not about being in the minority, which we are. It's not about winning office, which we are not, it is about Country.
I'd rather not appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Succinct and to the point, not to be reiteratively redundant.
I read these articles and cannot believe I am not in Bizarro World.
Kerry, a traitor, is now Secretary of State.
Hagel is now Secretary of Defense.
Lew will be a shoe-in for the Secretary of the Treasury.
So here is some levity from 1973, involving the then Governor of California, Ronald Reagan and some of his friends:
It was four states. And it was because the Democrat Party went all in, and I do mean all in, and, unsurprisingly to anyone who has been paying any attention at all for the last decade, the Romney Republicans did absolutely NOTHING to stop them.
At this point the formerly grand OLD party is nothing more than a false flag. Designed only to get you close in so that you can be blasted to smithereens.
we are winning the abortion argument and even the left knows it.
gay marriage... we are losing... we just cant overcome the avalanche of Hollywood gay propaganda.
we are also losing the drug argument and in my opinion this is the easiest to cave on without compromising our morals.
Thanks for the REAL laugh! :)
His rhetoric is increasingly idiotic.
>> I guess he is like his father after all.
His father had more balls than to speak like this. Maybe Rand is seeking the advice of “consultants”.
He’s using populist rhetoric, and he sounds like a fool.
RP should stay focused on principle and forget the pandering “we love you too” twaddle.
I am a life-long Californian and I have to take a little issue
with your point about Californians who move to other states and
“vote like Californians”. I’m as conservative as about anyone here
and so are almost all of my friends. Those who move to other
states that I know are fleeing liberalism.......MUCH of which came
from somewhere else originally. True there may be some libtards
who move away to follow their job.....but not enough to legitimize
your blanket statement. I don’t think you are trying to be mean
but you should realize there are millions of good conservatives
in California.....just not enough and the numbers are declining and
the leadership declines as well.
Let me just say that maybe conservatism could use a little facelift.
BUT what the hell would any kind of facelift do if we allow the
other side to define us when the facelift is complete? Conservatism
requires education, constant education. Those who supposedly
represent the conservative POV on TV, for example, usually allow
the opposition to get away with false premises. And, do we ever
hear our candidates explain to all the low info voters why conser-
vatism works for the common person? No, they usually just sing
to the choir. Filling the tank with gas won’t help if you don’t have
a battery in the car.
BTW this California voter went door to door for the Gipper in ‘66.
Cheers to you, brother conservative.
“Why vote for the imitation?”
That’s exactly how Pelosi & Co. won the house in 2006.
‘Our pie is better!’
I don't care what any politico says anymore. I don't care what the pResident in chief says anymore. I know them for what they are before they say a word.
Some of these fake conservatives and patriots, they want to play us, grab us with words as if words without action hold meaning to us, they see us as sheep, as fools.
We are the unwashed masses and they hold posies in their hands to breath in if our stench dares to reach their nostrils. They boldly declare themselves as usurpers and dance with glee at their victories.
Let them dance.
Tough....and right! :)
How are you LUV W?
I haven’t seen you since I moved off of the Canteen ping list while in a morose and debilitated mood.