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Paul: Republican Party in Need of Facelift
WKU Public Radio ^ | January 27, 2013 | Kevin Willis

Posted on 02/26/2013 6:34:06 PM PST by SoConPubbie

Kentucky's junior U.S. Senator says the Republican Party must broaden its appeal to voters by toning down some of its rhetoric on social issues. Rand Paul also thinks the GOP too often presents itself as a party "eager to go to war."

Paul, a first-term Senator from Bowling Green and rumored 2016 Presidential candidate, spoke to more than 500 Cincinnati-area Republicans over the weekend.

Paul said if Republicans hope to rebound from recent electoral disappointments, the GOP must find new ways to reach out to voters who disagree with the party on hot-topic issues such as abortion and gay marriage.

“We’re going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party,” Paul told the audience.

This isn't the first time Paul has spoken out on the need for the GOP to refashion its approach. He was recently quoted as saying Republicans must "evolve and adapt", or else face continued losses on election day.

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Those people believing Rand Paul is a conservative, need to rethink their position.
1 posted on 02/26/2013 6:34:10 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; VinL; ex-snook; sport; INVAR; ejonesie22; PieterCasparzen; Colonel_Flagg; Washi; ...

The “So-Called” Conservative Rand Paul


2 posted on 02/26/2013 6:36:01 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Oh look, one of John Kerry’s 4 republican votes is advising the party on how to win elections.


3 posted on 02/26/2013 6:37:22 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Make that Chuck Hagel...


4 posted on 02/26/2013 6:37:47 PM PST by skeeter
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To: SoConPubbie

Playing nice gets you nowhere.


5 posted on 02/26/2013 6:41:41 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: SoConPubbie

I think its time for all of our public servants to stop talking and get over the fantasy that they were sent to DC to negotiate what our positions are.


6 posted on 02/26/2013 6:41:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoConPubbie

This is like saying my 1988 Wrangler needs a paint job when the frame is rusted through.


7 posted on 02/26/2013 6:44:07 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SoConPubbie
Rand Paul also thinks the GOP too often presents itself as a party "eager to go to war."

The problem is that EVERYONE knows it is a bluff. The GOP eventually capitulates on everything, every time.

8 posted on 02/26/2013 6:48:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: SoConPubbie

FURP!!


9 posted on 02/26/2013 6:51:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Let’s see...

Yes to Hagel
Yes to social decay
Looks like ‘no’ to Rand Paul.

Thanks for the ping, SoCon.


10 posted on 02/26/2013 6:51:12 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SoConPubbie

They are just two sides of one big party. I fear nothing short of revolution will change things.


11 posted on 02/26/2013 6:51:19 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: SoConPubbie
A facelift indeed.

The republicans don’t need a facelift, they need a forklift to carry their sorry behinds out of office.

That goes for you too mr “ defer to the pos in chief” Paul.

12 posted on 02/26/2013 6:53:54 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: SoConPubbie

He is correct, to a certain point. We have to demonstrate our beliefs and explain why they are our beliefs. Discipline is critical, especially in the microscope of the 24/7 media onslaught. We can win being pro-life, we can’t win when the discussion is about rape victims. The gay marriage issue is a very split issue, but we shouldn’t allow ourselves to be painted as anti-gay. We have to explain that individuals can do whatever they want, but we believe marriage is between and man and a woman. We should demonstrate that a gay couple can get all the legal rights of a straight couple in terms of visitation rights, etc.

Our margin for error to win the White House is tiny at this point. The electoral college is not our friend any longer. Californians have migrated to NV, CO, and other western states but continue to vote like Californians. Northeastern people are migrating to VA, NC, and FL, but voting like New Yorkers and Bostonians. We have to sweep the red states of 2004 to win.


13 posted on 02/26/2013 6:54:01 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ve always thought that there is something a little tutti fruiti about the way he talks.


14 posted on 02/26/2013 6:54:06 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Stick a fork in him....he’s DONE in my book! Bah!


15 posted on 02/26/2013 6:54:20 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Sounding more and more like his dad daily.


16 posted on 02/26/2013 6:54:55 PM PST by mnehring
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To: SoConPubbie
Republicans must "evolve and adapt"

That depends on the direction of the evolution and adaptation. If the GOP continues to try to emulate the Democratic Party and become Dem-lites, they will continue to lose. Why vote for the imitation?

Until the GOP shows itself as a truly alternative party, it will continue to lose.


17 posted on 02/26/2013 6:55:07 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: SoConPubbie

The same Rand Paul who said he’d not vote to confirm Hagel until he got the information he wanted about his past, and more info about Benghazi...and today voted for him without either one being done...because Obama won and has a right to have his nominees approved. If we forget this stuff he’s pulling, we might as well commit suicide. He is quickly morphing into his father on Iran, Israel, moral issues, etc.


18 posted on 02/26/2013 6:57:11 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul, I am an anti-Semitic sot like my dad.............beleive me the Republican Party needs to accept every thing and everybody.
We need to abandon all standards and morals, then people will like us.


19 posted on 02/26/2013 6:59:29 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: ilgipper
We have to demonstrate our beliefs and explain why they are our beliefs.....

(snip) ...we can win being pro-life, we can’t win when the discussion is about rape victims. The gay marriage issue is a very split issue, but we shouldn’t allow ourselves to be painted as anti-gay. We have to explain that individuals can do whatever they want, but we believe marriage is between and man and a woman. We should demonstrate that a gay couple can get all the legal rights of a straight couple in terms of visitation rights, etc

Okay, I'll bite. Assuming those are your beliefs, why are those your beliefs?

20 posted on 02/26/2013 7:00:39 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SoConPubbie

Not much to look forward to in the political arena. Rand Paul is just another opportunist making his move and pivoting. Here we go again.


21 posted on 02/26/2013 7:05:04 PM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: SoConPubbie

If Ron Paul had a son.........oh wait.


22 posted on 02/26/2013 7:07:04 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: SoConPubbie

I agree with him on being hands off on certain issues, only in that they are not Federal issues, and Washington must have nothing to say about them!! Keep them at the state level and then net the people decide under which state laws they want to live!! If you study the founding, that is how it was originally established, and why the “Civil War” was wrong!! And before I’m flamed, I’m defending states rights, and not slavery!!!


23 posted on 02/26/2013 7:09:55 PM PST by Forrestfire (("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Theodore Roosevelt))
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To: SoConPubbie
This isn't the first time Paul has spoken out on the need for the GOP to refashion its approach. He was recently quoted as saying Republicans must "evolve and adapt", or else face continued losses on election day.

He'd like to blindfold and tie us up, and take us down to the river to worship Aqua Buddha.

24 posted on 02/26/2013 7:10:49 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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.we can win being pro-life, we can’t win when the discussion is about rape victims

Yes we can. Whistles vs Glocks.

25 posted on 02/26/2013 7:11:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SoConPubbie

Looks like that apple didn’t fall too far from the tree.


26 posted on 02/26/2013 7:12:16 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Jim Robinson

Ditto, Jim!

Color me very disappointed!


27 posted on 02/26/2013 7:12:38 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: KittenClaws

Nomination for post of the week!!


28 posted on 02/26/2013 7:13:58 PM PST by Segovia
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul doesn’t need a face lift, he can just use his other one.


29 posted on 02/26/2013 7:14:57 PM PST by parthian shot
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To: Colonel_Flagg

First, the political reality is that there is going to be change in this area. Second, there is no reason two people in a committed relationship cannot get legal rights for hospital visits, etc. Whether it is two gay people, two unmarried straight people, etc. Let’s say a husband and wife are married 40 years and one dies. Life expectancy is such that the remaining spouse may well develop a second relationship, but never marry. Those people should be able to gain many rights of a married couple in their later years.

Personally, I think the best route is to remove ‘marriage’ from the legal system all together. Marriage is a religious union, and the idea was adopted by government with little foresight we would reach this point. In the eyes of government, marriage is nothing more than a legal contract. Given the current situation, it needs to be remade to serve that purpose.

Our party needs to learn to talk about the issues that drive people away. Not capitulate on the issues, but handle them better. George Bush handled social issues magnificently and won two elections. Romney was the most socially liberal candidate we’ve had (based on his record in MA), and got trounced on these issues. Additionally, the needle has moved dramatically on gay marriage in the past 6 years. California overwhelmingly reject gay marriage not so many years ago, yet three states voted for it in 2012. We have to look for practical solutions to some of these realities...and not by adopting the other side’s position.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 7:19:33 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: GeronL; ilgipper

Well played. But I didn’t write the excerpt. ilgipper did. Duly pinged.


31 posted on 02/26/2013 7:20:17 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SoConPubbie

The Republican Party is in need of an enema.


32 posted on 02/26/2013 7:20:31 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SoConPubbie

I never was comfortable with Rand Paul and allways felt the apple did not fall far enough from the tree. Choosing him as the “tea party” front man in the presidential rebuttal makes the tea party a laughing stock. This is what RINOS GOPES the Roves and the Rands don’t know how to deal with this ...and because they refuse to refuse them time to place them into the refuse pail.

Does anybody remember what the Democrats did at their 2012 convention ??? First they eliminated any mention of the word GOD...and when they thought twice about doing that they reintroduced the resolution what happened ? They booed God..thrice..That resolution was rammed through just like the Affordable Health Care Act ...That’s a wedge issue within the democrat party.which was not exploited by Roves RINOS and GOPES and the Republicans generally to this day


33 posted on 02/26/2013 7:23:48 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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Just so all the pingees know where Rand Paul stands on social conservative issues. I guess he is like his father after all.

Freepmail me if you want on/off either ping list.

34 posted on 02/26/2013 7:29:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: dfwgator

I said earlier today the GOP needs a series of high colonics, plus some heavy parasiticide. Or vermifuge.


35 posted on 02/26/2013 7:33:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SoConPubbie

F’ing Traitor


36 posted on 02/26/2013 7:33:19 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ilgipper
If I understand you correctly, your beliefs are your beliefs because of their political expediency? I mean no disrespect, I genuinely want to understand your position. You want the Republican Party to win elections. I want my vote to be as true as I can make it to God's commands.

I sense your position is based more on government than on God. If I misunderstand, I am open to correction.

In your OP on this subject you said:

"We have to explain that individuals can do whatever they want." -- I submit to you that, especially in the area of health for homosexuals, and the known statistics regarding life expectancy of homosexual men and the burdens their lifestyle places on the health care system, that this is more a libertarian position than a conservative one. Do you agree? Are you in line with Paul and other Libertarians on this point?

"The gay marriage issue is a very split issue, but we shouldn’t allow ourselves to be painted as anti-gay." -- On this site, the gay 'marriage' issue isn't split at all. We're against it and JimRob has made that abundantly clear. If you want the social conservative base to go away, go ahead and shout that message from the rooftop. The uber-RINO Mitt Romney learned what happens when you take your base for granted.

You did say one thing that really intrigues me:

"We have to look for practical solutions to some of these realities...and not by adopting the other side’s position."

What are some practical solutions? What is 'not adopting the other side's position' if you give the marriage issue to a government led by the most feckless America-hater ever elected to public office? If you want to stay true to traditional conservative positions but instead give the marriage issue over to government, is your purpose truly served?

Thank you for the thoughtful comments.

37 posted on 02/26/2013 7:35:02 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: ilgipper
If we need to explain our beliefs, then we are obviously talking to the wrong people

Holding standards is not about being in the minority, which we are. It's not about winning office, which we are not, it is about Country.

I'd rather not appeal to the lowest common denominator.

38 posted on 02/26/2013 7:36:43 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Jim Robinson
FURP

Succinct and to the point, not to be reiteratively redundant.

39 posted on 02/26/2013 7:40:05 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: SoConPubbie

I read these articles and cannot believe I am not in Bizarro World.

Kerry, a traitor, is now Secretary of State.

Hagel is now Secretary of Defense.

Lew will be a shoe-in for the Secretary of the Treasury.

So here is some levity from 1973, involving the then Governor of California, Ronald Reagan and some of his friends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Chs4xUJlbM


40 posted on 02/26/2013 7:43:11 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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California overwhelmingly reject gay marriage not so many years ago, yet three states voted for it in 2012

It was four states. And it was because the Democrat Party went all in, and I do mean all in, and, unsurprisingly to anyone who has been paying any attention at all for the last decade, the Romney Republicans did absolutely NOTHING to stop them.

At this point the formerly grand OLD party is nothing more than a false flag. Designed only to get you close in so that you can be blasted to smithereens.

41 posted on 02/26/2013 7:53:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Defend life, liberty, private property, national sovereignty, security, & borders. Keep the oath.)
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To: SoConPubbie
lol

we are winning the abortion argument and even the left knows it.

gay marriage... we are losing... we just cant overcome the avalanche of Hollywood gay propaganda.

we are also losing the drug argument and in my opinion this is the easiest to cave on without compromising our morals.

42 posted on 02/26/2013 7:55:08 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: exit82

Thanks for the REAL laugh! :)


43 posted on 02/26/2013 8:01:28 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: little jeremiah

His rhetoric is increasingly idiotic.

>> I guess he is like his father after all.

His father had more balls than to speak like this. Maybe Rand is seeking the advice of “consultants”.


44 posted on 02/26/2013 8:02:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: KittenClaws

He’s using populist rhetoric, and he sounds like a fool.

RP should stay focused on principle and forget the pandering “we love you too” twaddle.


45 posted on 02/26/2013 8:10:17 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: ilgipper

I am a life-long Californian and I have to take a little issue
with your point about Californians who move to other states and
“vote like Californians”. I’m as conservative as about anyone here
and so are almost all of my friends. Those who move to other
states that I know are fleeing liberalism.......MUCH of which came
from somewhere else originally. True there may be some libtards
who move away to follow their job.....but not enough to legitimize
your blanket statement. I don’t think you are trying to be mean
but you should realize there are millions of good conservatives
in California.....just not enough and the numbers are declining and
the leadership declines as well.

Let me just say that maybe conservatism could use a little facelift.
BUT what the hell would any kind of facelift do if we allow the
other side to define us when the facelift is complete? Conservatism
requires education, constant education. Those who supposedly
represent the conservative POV on TV, for example, usually allow
the opposition to get away with false premises. And, do we ever
hear our candidates explain to all the low info voters why conser-
vatism works for the common person? No, they usually just sing
to the choir. Filling the tank with gas won’t help if you don’t have
a battery in the car.

BTW this California voter went door to door for the Gipper in ‘66.
Cheers to you, brother conservative.


46 posted on 02/26/2013 8:22:18 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: TomGuy

“Why vote for the imitation?”

That’s exactly how Pelosi & Co. won the house in 2006.

‘Our pie is better!’


47 posted on 02/26/2013 8:24:46 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Gene Eric
RP, should understand that not all of us hang on his every word.

I don't care what any politico says anymore. I don't care what the pResident in chief says anymore. I know them for what they are before they say a word.

Some of these fake conservatives and patriots, they want to play us, grab us with words as if words without action hold meaning to us, they see us as sheep, as fools.

We are the unwashed masses and they hold posies in their hands to breath in if our stench dares to reach their nostrils. They boldly declare themselves as usurpers and dance with glee at their victories.

Let them dance.

48 posted on 02/26/2013 8:25:01 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws

Tough....and right! :)


49 posted on 02/26/2013 8:47:17 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

How are you LUV W?

I haven’t seen you since I moved off of the Canteen ping list while in a morose and debilitated mood.


50 posted on 02/26/2013 8:53:28 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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