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Why Asian-Americans Have Turned Their Backs on the Republican Party
Daily Beast ^ | Feb 26, 2013 | Lloyd Green

Posted on 02/27/2013 5:16:17 AM PST by yinandyang

Since 2000, Asian-Americans have consistently voted Democratic. In 2008, Asian-Americans gave 62 percent of their vote to Barack Obama. Last November that number jumped to 73 percent even as the president’s margin of victory in the popular vote was cut in half as he garnered a Dukakis-like 41 percent of white voters and slid by more than 13 points among Jewish-Americans.

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KEYWORDS: asians; democrats; republicans
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To: yinandyang

So it’s because Asians are atheists?


2 posted on 02/27/2013 5:31:58 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: yinandyang
When Republicans again become supporters of fundamental liberty, people will come back. Trouble is, they don't believe in it, it's obvious to the voters they don't believe in it, and they aren't as good at pretending they believe in it as the Democrats are.

Both parties depend on promises to burn heretics to keep their bases in line. Democrats get away with it because their "heretics" are nominally the powerful in society. To Asian immigrants, who primarily come from dictatorships - however benevolent - the Democrats thus seem (absurdly) the party more likely to leave them in peace.

3 posted on 02/27/2013 5:32:10 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: yinandyang

Same reason everyone is turning their backs-they are democrat lite and McCain/Graham/Christie/GOProud is now the face of the party.


4 posted on 02/27/2013 5:33:15 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: icwhatudo

Article was boring. It didn’t answer the question in the headline.


5 posted on 02/27/2013 5:37:04 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: yinandyang

“These days, the GOP strikes Asian-Americans, along with many other Americans, as hostile to science and modernity.”

This is in huge type in the middle of the article. It’s not backed up and I find it unconvincing, to put it mildly.


6 posted on 02/27/2013 5:38:21 AM PST by expat1000
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To: icwhatudo
Same reason everyone is turning their backs-they are democrat lite and McCain/Graham/Christie/GOProud is now the face of the party.

That's most certainly NOT the reason.

Sadly, it's precisely the opposite. Minorities do not tend to believe in limited government. A generation ago, a majority of Asians supported the GOP because of their anti-communism stand. Now that the cold war is over, even Asians feel free to join nearly every other minority group and vote for ever bigger government. These people are simply not educated and steeped in the ideas of limited government. If you really believe just being more conservative is enough to win these groups you're nuts.

7 posted on 02/27/2013 5:40:10 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Correct. We are finished.


8 posted on 02/27/2013 5:41:50 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Longbow1969

Asians in general are collectivists, as are Hispanics. End of story and Country.


9 posted on 02/27/2013 5:44:39 AM PST by DAC21
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To: yinandyang
Why have American Americans turned their back on the GOP?

Why did Reagan win by landslides, and why has the GOP spent the past 20+ years purging Reaganism from the party.

10 posted on 02/27/2013 5:46:13 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: yinandyang

Like most articles that pretend to analyze why Dims receive more support from specific minorities than Republicans, this one also leaves out what I think is the most important reason: How long individual immigrants and families have been in the US.

These ‘studies’ or polls never tell us how new citizens are voting, and how minority voters from multi-generation, citizen families are voting. I think we’d see some real differences in the voting choices of well established and recent arrival minority voters of all ethnicities.

Of course, I doubt most news agencies want to report that the Dims are winning big among new citizens. And for Asian-Americans, the fact that so many live in uber-liberal California and NY is probably also a factor, even among more established Asian-Americans.

I believe how long specific minority voters’ families have been in the US, and how established they are financially,
is the most important determining factor in how they vote.


11 posted on 02/27/2013 5:46:49 AM PST by Will88
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To: expat1000
the GOP strikes Asian-Americans, along with many other Americans

The GOP is hostile to JUNK science. Obviously THE ASIANS ARE IGNORANT of the fact that the RATs (who truly are hostile to science) control America's "education" system.

Americans of Japanese extraction, of all people, should be called on this stupidity.

12 posted on 02/27/2013 5:48:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Will88

And also, the number of legal immigrants has increased from a few hundred thousand to more than a million annually in past 25 or so years, not to mention illegal aliens who eventually became citizens.

We are importing Dim voters and the Dims well know it while the Repbublican elite are in long term denial. Republicans had won the national political debate in the ‘80s, but the importation of Dim voters has changed that, particularly since a large increase in legal immigration under GHWB.


13 posted on 02/27/2013 5:53:42 AM PST by Will88
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To: Longbow1969
If you really believe just being more conservative is enough to win these groups you're nuts.

It's politics by fantasy.

14 posted on 02/27/2013 5:54:27 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: BO Stinkss
So it’s because Asians are atheists?

Not atheists, necessarily, but other than some Koreans not particularly religious, often not Christian, and certainly not evangelical Christians.

15 posted on 02/27/2013 5:56:56 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Longbow1969
Minorities do not tend to believe in limited government.

With exceptions that prove the rule, you are right.

As long as the democrats & media can continually highlight race and ethinicity, minorities will feel embattled and look to government to empower them.

Its as simple as that. I don't know how the GOP can overcome this media-reinforced ignorance.

17 posted on 02/27/2013 5:58:29 AM PST by skeeter
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To: yinandyang

All this means is Asian-Americans are as susceptible to Dem lies as any other ethnic group. The libs have succeeded in portraying conservative Republicans as anti-science/anti-technology troglodytes. The Dems are the party of congressman Hank Johnson who thinks too many people will tip over a Pacific island. And Sheila Jackson Lee who thought astronauts landed on Mars. Now who is the stupid party?


18 posted on 02/27/2013 6:01:24 AM PST by driftless2
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To: yinandyang

Information from this article and a Google tells me that Reagan, GHWB and Dole all won the Asian-American vote. So, whatever is happening has happened since the ‘80s. I believe it’s the additional of millions of new immigrant Asian-American voters that has moved things from modest Republican wins among AAs to 75% to 25% losses.

Why don’t we see studies that tell us how new citizen minorities vote as opposed to those whose families have been in the US for several generations?


19 posted on 02/27/2013 6:11:24 AM PST by Will88
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To: Mr. Jeeves

So, because ‘Pubbies are less that complete “supporters of fundamental liberty” they go and vote for smiley-face Fascists? Go ahead, pull the other one.

Truth is, we have hit the tipping point. More and more folks are going to be voting for “security,” “free stuff” and racial spoils. The nation as a whole is basically back where were during the 1930s when Democrats took over promised to rob the “evil rich” and spend it on the “poor” and ran the country until the late 50s.


20 posted on 02/27/2013 6:12:58 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: yinandyang

Asians seem to be low information voters and apt to toe a party line pushed by their bosses.


21 posted on 02/27/2013 6:13:25 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: Longbow1969

I think your post #7 is right on target.


22 posted on 02/27/2013 6:15:46 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: yinandyang

Ultimately, there is no such thing as an Asian, in terms of policies that can be tailored to win Asian votes. In political terms, the adjective Asian is merely an umbrella term used to cover a heterogeneous bunch of people. From a religious standpoint, for instance, every major religion under the sun is a majority in some country in Asia. Sri Lanka is majority Buddhist, India is majority Hindu, Pakistan is majority Muslim, China is majority pagan, Japan is majority Shinto, the Philippines is majority Christian, and so on.


23 posted on 02/27/2013 6:17:18 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: yinandyang

This article showcases the success of the communists in our education system.


24 posted on 02/27/2013 6:19:09 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (One "bitter clinger" praying for revival. <BCC><)
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To: yinandyang

I visited northern Virginia right after Christmas and visited several malls and public places.

I was surprised at the numbers of young Asian people.

One fact was obvious........ the young women were wearing boots. Young Asians are fad conscious.


25 posted on 02/27/2013 6:19:59 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: yinandyang

Even the Asians benefit from affirmative action and equal opportunity laws, they go the front of the line for jobs, scholarships, and other benefits.


27 posted on 02/27/2013 6:28:09 AM PST by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: bert

I actually saw a couple of young asian women in SUVs with Romney bumperstickers. NoVa is not getting an influx of Koreans fleeing the Demokratic Republik of Maryland.


28 posted on 02/27/2013 6:28:51 AM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
I still don't fully understand why Asians vote heavily Democratic.

But they don't. Obama got 61% of the Asian vote. Subtract the 8% that is Muslim and the 14% that is Indian, and Obama ends up with 39% of the remaining Asian vote. Ultimately, Obama is winning the Muslim and the Indian votes, and short of either converting to Islam or Hinduism, there is little it can do to appeal to either community. The historical grudges run deep.

29 posted on 02/27/2013 6:32:10 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: yinandyang
Asians only represented 3% of the electorate in 2012, up from 2% in 1996, so the sample size continues to be small.

Number of factors: Obama is a minority and voting for a minority is like voting for a non-White.

Asian Hindu Indians are hostile to the GOP because they saw Bush being favorable to Pakistan and the rest of the GOP hostile to H1-Visas and increased immigration.

Asian Muslims see the GOP hostile because Bush decided to fight back against Muslim terrorists.

Other factors...anti-American/anti-White and anti-Israel feelings among many segments of Asians.

30 posted on 02/27/2013 6:35:09 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Mr. Jeeves
look at the writer ~ Ketan-Desai ~ no doubt a Congress Party family member ~ from SOUF' ASIA.

The hindus in the USA are pretty good at using propaganda to make the Democrat big dogs think they are far more important than their true numbers would suggest.

They've been pushing the 'asian as Democrat' notion for most of the last two decades, but more recently they've been misrepresenting poorly structured and nearly meaningless polls to try to prove their point.

Does not work. East Asians, other than those clustered in Hawaii ~ where being a Japanese American means you OWN the Democrat party ~ are no longer clustered in communities where they can even be surveyed in a meaningful manner.

Frankly, no one has performed a large enough poll to capture enough east asian origin people to figure out how, as a group, they bother voting, or even if they vote.

31 posted on 02/27/2013 6:37:14 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: 38special
Even the Asians benefit from affirmative action and equal opportunity laws, they go the front of the line for jobs, scholarships, and other benefits.

That's false. Jobs- and college-admissions-wise, Asians are systematically underrepresented, relative to their test scores and their credentials, although they are overrepresented relative to their proportion of the population. The only protected minorities in the country subject to quota preferences are Hispanics and black. While blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented relative to their numbers in the population, they are overrepresented relative to their test scores and credentials.

32 posted on 02/27/2013 6:38:01 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Toning down the Christian overtones might help appeal to South Asians, who do tend to be sensitive to that sort of thing.


33 posted on 02/27/2013 6:38:17 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: BO Stinkss

I suspect this will start to change when their children begin losing out on coveted slots at prestigious universities to Blacks and Hispanics with half their SAT scores.


34 posted on 02/27/2013 6:38:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MetaThought
Toning down the Christian overtones might help appeal to South Asians, who do tend to be sensitive to that sort of thing.

I have worked with a number of Hindus who have never had a problem with my Christian faith. (granted I do not get in their faces every morning and try to convert them)


35 posted on 02/27/2013 6:40:47 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 38special
it helps top get A's in school, to study hard, to go for a professional degree, to..... just all kinds of things like that.
36 posted on 02/27/2013 6:41:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: MetaThought
It seems to me that at least in NoVa the Koreans tend to be more Christian than the average population.
37 posted on 02/27/2013 6:43:21 AM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: MetaThought
Virtually 100% of the Korean Americans, Vietnamese Americans and Philippino Americans, ABC (American born Chinese), and katonks (non Buddhist japanese Americans) are CHRISTIAN!

The hindus and moslems are the holdouts ~ they are used to insults anyway ~ you have to be to get along where they come from ~ so screw'em! They'll whine a lot ~ they are all good at that ~ but they'll understand and not take it personally.

38 posted on 02/27/2013 6:47:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: BO Stinkss

Asians are as anti white as blacks and latinos. It’;s all about race. The Democrat Party has dropped all pretense and is now the anti colonial party. Democrat arrogance stems from the belief that they have acheived a permanent racial majority.

America will be South Africa in 10 years.


39 posted on 02/27/2013 6:47:16 AM PST by y6162
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To: Perdogg

I wasn’t referring to Koreans, but mostly to Indians.


40 posted on 02/27/2013 6:48:36 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: y6162

BTW, east asian girls are all about the ‘marry an American guy’ thing though. Slowly but surely they are being absorbed into the basic white infrastructure.


41 posted on 02/27/2013 6:48:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: BO Stinkss

Chain migration and discomfort with Christianity.

What percentage of Japanese-Americans, most of whom are probably at least fourth-generation and don’t have a lot of relatives in Japan they want to bring over, voted for Obama? They also have very high average income, so high taxes hurt and don’t help them.


42 posted on 02/27/2013 6:52:13 AM PST by heartwood
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To: driftless2
The Dems are the party of congressman Hank Johnson who thinks too many people will tip over a Pacific island. And Sheila Jackson Lee who thought astronauts landed on Mars. Now who is the stupid party?

Yes, but those things won't get media attention - at least not the media minorities watch.

The problem we face is traditional, conservatives have completely lost the culture at every level. The left now controls nearly 100% of the education, media and entertainment establishments. Making the Republicans more conservative is a fine idea, but it isn't likely to win over minorities. In fact, it may make minorities more hostile to the GOP in the short run since almost all polling shows these groups believe in an even bigger government. We are, quite literally, importing masses of people who reject the very ideas of conservative, limited government.

43 posted on 02/27/2013 6:53:59 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: muawiyah
Slowly but surely they are being absorbed into the basic white infrastructure.

This is being aided by the fact that on average, Asians need higher test scores than every other ethnic/racial group to get into the college of their choice. The result is that the product of mixed white-Asian marriages inevitably classify themselves as white.

44 posted on 02/27/2013 7:14:54 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Ultimately, there is no such thing as an Asian, in terms of policies that can be tailored to win Asian votes. In political terms, the adjective Asian is merely an umbrella term used to cover a heterogeneous bunch of people. From a religious standpoint, for instance, every major religion under the sun is a majority in some country in Asia. Sri Lanka is majority Buddhist, India is majority Hindu, Pakistan is majority Muslim, China is majority pagan, Japan is majority Shinto, the Philippines is majority Christian, and so on.

There's a myriad of cultures, languages, traditions and races between Istanbul and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskii, so trying to cater to the "Asian vote" is an exercise in futility.

45 posted on 02/27/2013 7:19:07 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Zhang Fei

Actually the number of interracial children is increasing so dramatically that in a generation, two tops, the Dems are going to have an intractable jumbled mess on their hands.

So nature and natural selection may eventually solve what politics can’t (or won’t)

Of course I won’t be around to see it fail.


46 posted on 02/27/2013 7:19:07 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Zhang Fei

or both, or neither, or maybe whatever will get you into the best graduate program with the least effort ~ at which school. There are plenty of discussion materials on the net to guide the clever student!


47 posted on 02/27/2013 7:21:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Longbow1969
What did I just say about polling? The east asian community, and the Souf' asian community as well, are so widely distributed in America (outside of Hawaii and Walnut Creek) as to be UNPOLLABLE!

What we are left with is a propaganda program by indian american politicians to make themselves look more important.

48 posted on 02/27/2013 7:24:06 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: heartwood
There are two JA communities. There's the one in Hawai ~ they own the Democrat party. There's the other one everywhere else. They are so assimilated they can't be differentiated from white folks when it comes to politics.

I have found that CBA's tend to vote against old guys though.

49 posted on 02/27/2013 7:27:03 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Longbow1969
If you really believe just being more conservative is enough to win these groups you're nuts.

Agreed. So the GOP has a choice. Either start pandering like the Dem's do (promising all sorts of free things), or stop being competitive in national races. It's an ugly choice, to be sure.

50 posted on 02/27/2013 7:32:13 AM PST by Leaning Right
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