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Sen. Rand Paul's puzzling vote for Chuck Hagel: Smart politics?
http://theweek.com ^ | February 27, 2013 | Peter Weber |

Posted on 02/27/2013 6:32:16 AM PST by NKP_Vet

"And so the epic battle over Chuck Hagel's nomination to become defense secretary ended with a whimper, not a bang. The Senate easily confirmed the former Republican senator from Nebraska on Tuesday, 58 to 41, with four Republicans joining all present Democrats. That was still by far the least amount of support a successful defense secretary nominee has received since at least the Carter administration, and confirmation came only after one successful GOP filibuster and, on Tuesday, an unsuccessful follow-up. For anyone who's been paying attention to the Hagel drama for the past few weeks, the outcome was no surprise.

Spectators may have noticed one unexpected wrinkle to the Hagel denouement, however: Sen. Rand Paul. Fifteen Republicans voted on Tuesday morning to end the filibuster against Hagel but then went on to oppose his confirmation. Only one, the junior senator from Kentucky, voted the other way: Paul was one of the 27 Republicans who voted to continue the filibuster, but then he surprised just about everyone by joining the "aye" Republicans — Thad Cochran (Miss.), Mike Johanns (Neb.), and Richard Shelby (Ala.) — for the final vote.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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From Israel-hating Pat Buchanan, to Israel-hating Louis Farrakhan, all America-bashers and Israel-haters are praising the pick of the incompetent airhead Goober Bagel as the new Sec of Defense.

http://onyxbook.com/2013/02/louis-farrakhan-gives-chuck-hagel-the-endorsement-he-never-asked-for-or-wanted/

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/paul-finally-gets-the-hagel-vote-right/

1 posted on 02/27/2013 6:32:23 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

All I see are fools who happen to be back stabbers.


2 posted on 02/27/2013 6:37:05 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: NKP_Vet

Rand Paul is your TYPICAL “Liberatarian” All blow No Show. Hide behind the Skirts of Lady Liberty and Lady US Constitution. That and with a Family History of Jew-Hatred and Anti-Semitism.


3 posted on 02/27/2013 6:43:34 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: NKP_Vet

The Repubicans in the US Senate did little more than put on a show with the Hagel nomination and knew for the entire time that Hagel would win confirmation.

In Washington, the Democrats are the Globetrotters and the Republicans are the Washington Generals. Before each game, they all know who will be victorious.

The game is only played by the Republicans as a means to extract cash from the Washington Generals fans and they would be the Republican voters.


4 posted on 02/27/2013 6:51:43 AM PST by OKRA2012
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To: US Navy Vet; NKP_Vet
True ~ nothing at all surprising about the Paul vote.

Does anyone here remember the opthamologic surgeon the FBI picked up years ago for murdering Jews who had had their eye color changed?

He even worked for the FBI.

Just goes to show education isn't everything when it comes to haters.

5 posted on 02/27/2013 6:55:48 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: US Navy Vet

Will alibi his stance on Beck radio show tomorrow.


6 posted on 02/27/2013 7:02:29 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: NKP_Vet

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. This guy worries me.


7 posted on 02/27/2013 7:03:37 AM PST by NY Cajun
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To: NKP_Vet
He's like his dad, a loose cannon on deck.
He says the right things most of the time but you can not rely on him for anything.

8 posted on 02/27/2013 7:14:50 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: NKP_Vet

“From Israel-hating Pat Buchanan, to Israel-hating Louis Farrakhan, all America-bashers and Israel-haters are praising the pick of the incompetent airhead Goober Bagel as the new Sec of Defense.”

Couldn’t have said it better; this choice was a mistake that will come back to bite America on the *ss.


9 posted on 02/27/2013 7:19:04 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: NKP_Vet

Rand Paul rattled cages.......in the end did what he was told.
What’s puzzling about that?
He is all talk and no action.


10 posted on 02/27/2013 7:19:48 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: NKP_Vet
"I've said all along that I give the president some prerogative in choosing his political appointees." In other words, it's about the principle, not the man. "There are many things I disagree with Chuck Hagel on, there are many things I disagree with John Kerry on, there are very few things I agree with the president on, but the president gets to choose political appointees."

So why have congressional checks and balances and oversight then? Why have a confirmation hearing proceess, a cloture and a chamber vote? Why put the nation thru another round of kabuki theater?

Paul's rationale here is a classic exampe of the Achilles heel of libertarian thought process. Principle trumps everything, even in the light of overwhelming evidence to push back and force the executive branch to bend.

This is why Libertarians, as a party, will NEVER be in a position of power. Full blown Libertarians are nothing more than boisterous 'principled' spectators who have no problem embracing and engaging in the unprincipled and immoral aspects of liberalism while they wave the Constitution in their left hand. They really stand for NOTHING. Rand Paul just let the conservative mask slip off his face to reveal his true features.

11 posted on 02/27/2013 7:19:55 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Amen, amen and amen!

Paul’s a joke. Talks big and folds when the SHTF. Part of the GOP death spiral.


12 posted on 02/27/2013 7:24:36 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: NKP_Vet

If all the senate does is rubber stamp any and all nominees by the admin
(Which they don’t with Republican nominees),
Why waste everyone’s time with hearings?
Total kabuki theatre.


13 posted on 02/27/2013 7:37:50 AM PST by matginzac
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To: NKP_Vet

When conservatives wake up and see the republican party is chasing the democrats to the left, and won’t stop moving left until they see we refuse to follow, nothing will change. If we keep letting them drive the train, we will end up where THEY want us: right behind the left. They forced their guy down our throat and gave us a choice of romney or obamb. That was no choice for many conservative, hence we lost. We are like the girl who will keep taking her cheating boyfriend back. Unfortunately I voted for romney and will never do that again. I did not trust him, did not like the things he DID (not be be confused with what he said when he was running for president) He went against everything I believed in but I knew had I not voted for him, would have been blamed for Obama by my husband and many here for years.
If a third party doesn’t rise up in the next year or so, we can forget the constitution and living free. We will be owned by the government.

Who is John Galt?


14 posted on 02/27/2013 7:46:11 AM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: itsahoot

Did Beck mention it today?


15 posted on 02/27/2013 7:55:36 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: NKP_Vet
Not what I expected, but few things coming out of DC are these days.

To his credit, Rand Paul helped the low information voting world get to know a bit more about Hagel and by extension, the obama plan.

Interesting show and also interesting he chose not to continue fighting for that hill.

Things in a poker game often aren't what they seem to be. Did he get what he was after? I wonder what political capital he thought it would cost or what he would gain, but whatever the calculation, he walked away.

16 posted on 02/27/2013 8:29:38 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Beck will make an excuse for his boy Junior Paul. Beck fancies himself as a “libertarian” but says old man Paul’s views are too extreme, but he says little junior Paul is his “kind of libertarian”. News flash for Beck. Ron Paul supporters can’t stand the boy, and his caving into the Marxist will not mean squat with them. They know he’s a phoney, who can’t be trusted. As a matter of fact he can’t be trusted with any thing. He has no core.


17 posted on 02/27/2013 8:30:50 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

The President gets to nominate. The Senate gets to approve. There is nothing in the Constitution that requires the Senate to act as the President’s lap dog, and there are decades of precent of Democrat Senators blocking nominations made by Republican Presidents. After the fact excuse making by complicit, self-serving politicians.


18 posted on 02/27/2013 9:08:08 AM PST by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: NKP_Vet

rand paul aka DEMORAT-LITE aka RINO.


19 posted on 02/27/2013 9:20:49 AM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: Jack Hammer
"---this choice was a mistake that will come back to bite America on the *ss.---"

Agree with your assessment but consider this. The SecDef, whoever he or she may be, is going to administer the Pentagon according to the ideology set out by the President. Hagel is unfit in my view given my beliefs, yet would we take him over Bill Ayers or Dennis Kucinich for the job?

20 posted on 02/27/2013 9:27:28 AM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: buckalfa

Dennis Kucinich?

Bite your tongue!!!


21 posted on 02/27/2013 9:30:16 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: littleharbour

“and there are decades of precent of Democrat Senators blocking nominations made by Republican Presidents”

John Tower comes to mind.


22 posted on 02/27/2013 9:30:51 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Jack Hammer

Consider tounge swollen and bleeding as ordered Sir !


23 posted on 02/27/2013 4:41:23 PM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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