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Firearms Equality Movement Gaining Momentum
Ammo Land ^ | Feb 27, 2013 | AmmoLand Staff

Posted on 02/27/2013 8:21:08 AM PST by EXCH54FE

New Jersey - -(Ammoland.com)- The newly emerged Firearms Equality Movement is gaining more steam among manufactures and gun rights supporters alike.

The firearms industry, in reaction to the Governor of New York ramming through the NY SAFE Act which banned AR15 style rifles, has seen multiple manufactures revise their firearms sales polices to restrict LEO and Police Agencies from only buying the same level of firepower as is allowed for the average citizen of their state.

Thereby helping to make the citizens equal to police and law enforcement agencies with in the same state, and, in some part, making rouge politicians accountable for their actions trying to disarm the people.

It is important to note that the Movement is not asking industry to join a “conspiracy” but only to make their own sales policies support the right of the individual to keep and bear the same arms as all other classes of people in their respective states. The Firearms Movement is just that, a movementand not collusion, as some have suggested. In the end each and every company is free to do business as they wish.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; gunownerrights
A long list of Company's supporting this effort. As of yet we have not seen the big four manufactures, Glock, Sig Saur, Smith & Wesson and Ruger, that supply the majority of police contracts, make the same policy changes but I am still hopeful that they will move to support their biggest customer of all, the American people.
1 posted on 02/27/2013 8:21:12 AM PST by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

And if this become a law force all police agencies, including the Federal Government excluding Military, to turn in all firearms to the National Guard in their respective State.


2 posted on 02/27/2013 8:26:20 AM PST by Logical me
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To: EXCH54FE

I will be sure to only buy from manufacturers who support this policy.

A Police State is what the 2nd Amendment intends to avoid.


3 posted on 02/27/2013 8:29:16 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: EXCH54FE

I will no longer support Glock, Sig Saur, Smith & Wesson and Ruger. Damn rogue American companies. If they don’t turn about boycott them


4 posted on 02/27/2013 8:29:49 AM PST by Logical me
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To: EXCH54FE
The big 4 will be among the last brought into the fold and that will happen only when they become a target of a boycott at the wholesale level.

Another thought ~ in states with highly restrictive licensure the companies probably ought to restrict the civilian licensees to NO SALES AT ALL. Those guys are all governmen toadies ~ as are their masters. If the ordinary citizen can't protect himself in those states then the rich shouldn't be able to buy their way around the restrictions.

5 posted on 02/27/2013 8:32:58 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: EXCH54FE

I doubt that Glock and Sig will buy in, they are simply too big and have too many lucrative contracts. There are levers to move the other two. Smith & Wesson was basically destroyed when private sales collapsed after their cloak-and-dagger deal with the Clinton JD, so they may still be sensitive of private sales and receptive to pressure. Ruger has Bill Ruger’s selfish collusion with Clinton in the matter of the AWB-which, IMHO was never paid for-to live down.


6 posted on 02/27/2013 8:38:17 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: EXCH54FE

I don’t see Glock ever signing up for this. They’re an Austrian company, and have no beef with the cops being a special class of citizen.


7 posted on 02/27/2013 8:38:46 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: EXCH54FE
...rouge politicians...

Are those the pink ones?

8 posted on 02/27/2013 8:39:29 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: Logical me

Actually two of the companies are foreign owned (SIG and Glock), so I rather expect they just want to steer clear of the politics. That is, of course, rather a myopic view, but I can see the local corporate officers making the case only to have the home officers in Austria/Germany saying no.

Now as for Ruger and S&W, they don’t have much excuse. Ruger has always been quite self serving when it comes to gun laws though. They were in favor of the 94 AWB because it exempted the Mini 14.


9 posted on 02/27/2013 8:46:41 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: jboot
I doubt that Glock and Sig will buy in, they are simply too big and have too many lucrative contracts.

Fom what I've seen, for the vast majority of these companies, the civilian market completely dwarfs their government contracts. They'd do better to look at what happened with S&W a few years ago.

10 posted on 02/27/2013 8:50:23 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: EXCH54FE

There are not enough Government Agents to make a difference in the US, at best it would be 1-2 percent of Total Sales, however if the other 98% suddenly stopped purchasing these firearms made by these 4 companies, it would be devastating to them. Guaranteed. Couldn’t you just imagine walking into your favorite Gun Store and seeing Everything Smith& Wesson, Ruger, Sig, Glock, ALL MARKED DOWN to Half Price or More because no Citizen wants them, and then the Clerk says to you Sorry That is all we have in Stock but you can Order any other you Wish.


11 posted on 02/27/2013 8:53:43 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: EXCH54FE

This is easy to get around of course. The Federal Government will act as a middle man to the states. They will buy the weapons and then sell them to the states. When the gun makers start prohibiting the Federal government from purchases then we will have something.


12 posted on 02/27/2013 8:58:25 AM PST by Revel
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To: EXCH54FE

Ruger isn’t one of the top suppliers of police contracts. It’s Beretta, Sig, Smith, Glock and sometimes Springfield. Ruger isn’t really in the running - to the point where they don’t even bother making LE-only versions of anything any more. The SR556 is not offered in an LE/full auto configuration at any price, for example.


13 posted on 02/27/2013 9:11:34 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: zeugma
They'd do better to look at what happened with S&W a few years ago.

They're looking at what's happening right now. Neither one can make enough product to keep on the shelves.

14 posted on 02/27/2013 9:13:59 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: drbuzzard

the person who was responsible for that fiasco has passed away and no longer with the company.

The new managment does not seek to make the same mistake.

The prior managment tried to discriminate against people who rode motorcycles to work and that was a financially painful decision in the 1990s.

keep in mind 3d prinding now makes their magazine market hold dubious. In addition, you have home railgun and coilgun projects which are bypassing even the need for gunpowder.


15 posted on 02/27/2013 9:14:12 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EXCH54FE
Great commercial from the Second Amendment Foundation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBelF4UddcY

16 posted on 02/27/2013 9:18:20 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: EXCH54FE

Rouge politicians. I like it. Sort of sums up the matter.

We have a shortage of non-rouge politicians, who don’t wear silk panties.


17 posted on 02/27/2013 9:23:22 AM PST by lurk
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To: Yo-Yo

18 posted on 02/27/2013 9:51:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EXCH54FE

I don’ t see that Colt has signed on yet and of all the manufacturers colt has a lot to lose.Yet if you go to their homepage there is nothing indicating if they even care whether the state of Connecticut denies the public the right to posses the AR-15’s they make in Connecticut.


19 posted on 02/27/2013 10:01:52 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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Colt has a lot to *gain* by not joining the bandwagon. They have always been more interested in government sales than civilian since WW2. Further, they completely neglected and in fact told the civilian market to go sod off until they lost the M16 contract and had the rest of their lucrative government sales except the M4 collapse on them. If everyone else bails on government sales, Colt will cheerfully clean up after them as that’s what they really want - to not have to deal with ‘the great unwashed’.


20 posted on 02/27/2013 10:07:01 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Logical me

Perhaps someone with more information can shed light on this, but I suspect many of the manufacturers who have went on record saying they would limit what they sold or refuse to sell at all probably don’t even have much of any business with law enforcement to begin with. Makes it kind of convenient. Sadly.


21 posted on 02/27/2013 10:07:56 AM PST by MachIV
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To: jboot

Bill Ruger is (fortunately) dead and the current management of the company has zero interest in following in his footsteps in that regard. I wouldn’t take a free Ruger product from the old Ruger, but the new management has managed to sell me an SR556.


22 posted on 02/27/2013 10:09:44 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: drbuzzard

See post 22. Bill Ruger is dead and the current management is now making the “high capacity” pistols, “evil black military” rifles, and all the other things Ruger would not countenance while he was alive. They also are a lot more pro-2A than ol’ Bill was.


23 posted on 02/27/2013 10:13:08 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MachIV

That is a definite point for many on the list, though LaRue Tactical sells a *lot* to LE.


24 posted on 02/27/2013 10:14:15 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Fair enough. Though you would think this lingering memory would prompt them to jump on the campaign wholeheartedly.


25 posted on 02/27/2013 10:22:36 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: drbuzzard

I have a sneaky suspicion that they’re checking their contracts over carefully to make sure they wouldn’t run afoul of them - not just on the guns side, but the Pine Tree Casting side of the business.

Ruger does have a web page that will allow you to write all of your representatives from state level on up to Federal with just one click, so I suspect they are favorably disposed towards the idea.


26 posted on 02/27/2013 10:33:02 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: EXCH54FE
As of today, the list of business refusing sales to cities, counties, and states restricting civilian sale of certain firearms and accessories is now at 93 (up 10). Here: http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/

We need to keep hammering the big suppliers to join in a class action against these political tyrants. Ditto for the ammunition manufacturers. The point to be kept in mind: total LE sales are less than 1% of $32 billion in annual numbers of firearms sold.

27 posted on 02/27/2013 11:15:27 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: EXCH54FE
It is important to note that the Movement is not asking industry to join a “conspiracy” but only to make...

What a bizarre post. But not inappropriate now that I think about it.

People peaceably assembling and agreeing to demand their right per the Bill of Rights, could, I suppose, be prosecuted under the RICO statutes by this illegal and illegitimate Odumbo regime...

28 posted on 02/27/2013 12:16:35 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: EXCH54FE
In the end each and every company is free to do business as they wish.

And so are we all.

29 posted on 02/27/2013 12:23:38 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Oberon
and have no beef with the cops being a special class of citizen.

Well, I certainly do.
At a minimum, local law enforcement can never be a class of citizen more equal than others.

Not ever!

30 posted on 02/27/2013 12:29:22 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: zeugma
They'd do better to look at what happened with S&W a few years ago.

What happened to S&W a few years ago?

31 posted on 02/27/2013 12:35:08 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: publius911
What happened to S&W a few years ago?

From what I recall, there was a very active and successful boycott of S&W based on some statements made by the then CEO of the company. After a change in management, the boycott was suspended, IIRC, the current owners actually bought the company out.

There was a lot of press about it in the conservative press, though of course it was blacked out by the MSM.

32 posted on 02/27/2013 1:02:56 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: publius911
At a minimum, local law enforcement can never be a class of citizen more equal than others.

You and I are absolutely on the same wavelength. Preach it, brother.

33 posted on 02/27/2013 1:24:37 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: publius911; zeugma

If only it was that simple.

S&W decided they wanted Federal contracts really, really bad, so the then-British management agreed to voluntarily comply with the Clinton Administration’s gun control wish list.

http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/jeff_snyder_on_sw.html

http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/sw-hud.html

http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/sw-hud+3.html

Customers and dealers were not happy with S&W and made their displeasure manifest fairly quickly. Sales tanked.


34 posted on 02/27/2013 10:56:10 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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