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Pope Benedict says it sometimes felt like 'God was asleep' in final audience
herald sun ^ | 2/28 | herald sun

Posted on 02/27/2013 2:22:16 PM PST by RummyChick

POPE Benedict XVI admitted it sometimes felt as if 'God was asleep' during the troubled days of his papacy as he gave an emotional farewell in St Peter's Square before tens of thousands of pilgrims on the eve of his momentous resignation.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com.au ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9896792/Popes-final-address-God-was-asleep-on-my-watch.html

Pope's final address: God was asleep on my watch Pope Benedict XVI gave an emotional farewell speech to tens of thousands of faithful in St Peter’s Square, saying there were times during his eight-year papacy “when it seemed that the Lord was sleeping.”

1 posted on 02/27/2013 2:22:19 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Psalm 121:4 would suggest otherwise.


2 posted on 02/27/2013 2:24:54 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Salvation

Really?


3 posted on 02/27/2013 2:26:59 PM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: RummyChick

something wrong with his eye in this pic

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/popes-emotional-farewell-speech-hints-1734270


4 posted on 02/27/2013 2:32:02 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“My God my God why have you forsaken me?” said Jesus from the cross. He probably felt the same way.


5 posted on 02/27/2013 2:35:19 PM PST by diamond6 (Need scientific proof of God? Check out: http://www.magisreasonfaith.org/)
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To: RummyChick
After which BXVI said:
But I always knew that the Lord is in that boat and I always knew that the boat of the Church is not mine, not ours, but is His. And the Lord will not let it sink. He is the one who steers her, of course also through those He has chosen because that is how He wanted it. This was and is a certainty that nothing can tarnish. And that is why my heart today is filled with gratitude to God, because He never left—the whole Church or me—without His consolation, His light, or His love.

6 posted on 02/27/2013 2:35:33 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: RummyChick

What an odd thing to say, God Himself says He neither sleeps or slumbers.


7 posted on 02/27/2013 2:37:45 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: RummyChick

It has been reported that BXVI is nearly blind in one of his eyes.


8 posted on 02/27/2013 2:38:20 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: diamond6

You are kidding right?


9 posted on 02/27/2013 2:38:52 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: diamond6

Many saints have experienced the “dark night of the soul”, for example, St. Therese of Lisieux. Even Mother Teresa lamented the times that she could not feel God’s presence.


10 posted on 02/27/2013 2:39:27 PM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: RummyChick

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if God turned his back on the world. We have turn our back on him.


11 posted on 02/27/2013 2:41:22 PM PST by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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12 posted on 02/27/2013 2:44:32 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: RummyChick; mlizzy; All

He said it sometimes “felt like” God was asleep or absent, not that he actually was. See post #6.

God sees the fall of a sparrow, but to a human observer of the kind of terrible things we’ve seen going on in our Church—and also in our country—it’s not always obvious that God is watching.

And consider those words of Jesus on the Cross, already quoted: “My God, my God, Why hast thou forsaken me?” Why? Because the Father chose to put the full sacrificial burden on His Son.


13 posted on 02/27/2013 2:46:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: svcw; RummyChick; AmericaUnite; Alex Murphy
As Alex Murphy pointed out (Link) the more complete quote was this:

There have also been moments in which the waters were turbulent and the wind contrary, as throughout the history of the church, and the Lord seemed to be asleep," he said. "But I have always known that the Lord is in that boat and that the boat of the church is not mine, it is not ours, but it is his and he does not let it sink...."

The Telegraph gave their coverage of the final address the provocative title Pope's final address: God was asleep on my watch

14 posted on 02/27/2013 2:52:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Bias much?)
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To: RummyChick

Reporters always look for a way to take something out of context.

The reporter is a tool of Satanic force.
Period.


15 posted on 02/27/2013 2:55:42 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: right way right

The reporter is a tool of Satanic force.

To paraphrase Gen. W. T. Sherman,

“If we killed all the reporters in the morning, there would be dispatches from Hell by noon”...


16 posted on 02/27/2013 3:28:32 PM PST by Paisan
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To: right way right

Of course, that never stopped some posters here from gleefully piling on if it fits their agenda.

Just watch.


17 posted on 02/27/2013 3:29:42 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: right way right

Yours would appear to be the correct analysis.


18 posted on 02/27/2013 3:33:27 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: RummyChick
“Niether slumbers nor sleeps”. This guy doesn't even know his Bible.
19 posted on 02/27/2013 3:43:21 PM PST by widowithfoursons
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To: Mr. Lucky

Maybe so,but my broad brush tends to bring a bit of attention at times.


20 posted on 02/27/2013 3:43:34 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: svcw

He said it SEEMED LIKE. He wasn’t saying God WAS asleep. He was simply expressing his frustration. I feel the same way sometimes, when I all the evil in the world winning.


21 posted on 02/27/2013 3:49:56 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: RummyChick

I believe I saw a report that B16 has gone blind in one eye. One of the reasons he’s stepping down.


22 posted on 02/27/2013 3:51:09 PM PST by virgil
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To: DesScorp
He said it SEEMED LIKE. He wasn’t saying God WAS asleep. He was simply expressing his frustration. I feel the same way sometimes, when I all the evil in the world winning.

Pretty obvious, unless you're anti-Catholic and looking for any excuse to bash the pope.

23 posted on 02/27/2013 3:55:15 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: RummyChick

Not surprising.

Most of us have never felt the presence of God anywhere. This world is completely dark and devoid of anything holy. It is our temporary torture chamber.


24 posted on 02/27/2013 3:59:28 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: RummyChick

Mother Teresa posited similar thoughts. I think they both may be onto something...


25 posted on 02/27/2013 4:19:10 PM PST by barney10
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To: barney10
Mother Teresa posited similar thoughts.

Hers were about not feeling God's presence at all, and for fifty years!

The letters, many of them preserved against her wishes (she had requested that they be destroyed but was overruled by her church), reveal that for the last nearly half-century of her life she felt no presence of God whatsoever — or, as the book's compiler and editor, the Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk, writes, "neither in her heart or in the eucharist."

That absence seems to have started at almost precisely the time she began tending the poor and dying in Calcutta, and — except for a five-week break in 1959 — never abated. Although perpetually cheery in public, the Teresa of the letters lived in a state of deep and abiding spiritual pain. In more than 40 communications, many of which have never before been published, she bemoans the "dryness," "darkness," "loneliness" and "torture" she is undergoing. She compares the experience to hell and at one point says it has driven her to doubt the existence of heaven and even of God. She is acutely aware of the discrepancy between her inner state and her public demeanor. "The smile," she writes, is "a mask" or "a cloak that covers everything." Similarly, she wonders whether she is engaged in verbal deception. "I spoke as if my very heart was in love with God — tender, personal love," she remarks to an adviser. "If you were [there], you would have said, 'What hypocrisy.'"
-- from the thread Mother Teresa's Crisis of Faith


26 posted on 02/27/2013 5:38:55 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: RummyChick
NO WHERE -- absolutely no where did Pope Benedict say that in his final message. Check it out for yourself.

Benedict XVI's Final General Audience

Why don't you check the validity of things before you post them???????????????

27 posted on 02/27/2013 5:51:41 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RummyChick

God never sleeps. He does not hang around Sodom, though. The sin has killed the spirit of the church organization...not the real faithful, though.


28 posted on 02/27/2013 8:45:09 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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