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Why Sarah Palin? Why Ted Cruz?: 'Nationalists' and 'Federalists' (Explains a lot)
The Hill ^ | February 27, 2013 | Bernie Quigley

Posted on 02/27/2013 11:31:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Demographics are destiny. Nothing else makes history. When the changes ahead are shipped into denial is when chaos and disaster ensue. And the potential disasters America faces today do not come from global warming, nuclear weapons, the Russians, the hippies or the rednecks. They come from the economic division of America between the red states, which are rising in capital and prosperity, and the left and right coasts, which are receding in economic power. Demographer Joel Kotkin well outlines the transition in a Wall Street Journal essay yesterday title, “America’s Red State Growth Corridors.”

“In the wake of the 2012 presidential election, some political commentators have written political obituaries of the ‘red’ or conservative-leaning states, envisioning a brave new world dominated by fashionably blue bastions in the Northeast or California,” he writes. “But political fortunes are notoriously fickle, while economic trends tend to be more enduring. ... These trends point to a U.S. economic future dominated by four growth corridors that are generally less dense, more affordable, and markedly more conservative and pro-business: the Great Plains, the Intermountain West, the Third Coast (spanning the Gulf states from Texas to Florida), and the Southeastern industrial belt.”

Historically, these regions were little more than resource colonies or low-wage labor sites for richer, more technically advanced areas, says Kotkin. By promoting policies that encourage enterprise and spark economic growth, they’re catching up.

The “corridor states took 11 of the top 15 spots in Chief Executive magazine’s 2012 review of best state business climates. California, New York, Illinois and Massachusetts were at the bottom. The states of the old Confederacy boast 10 of the top 12 places for locating new plants, according to a recent 2012 study by Site Selection magazine.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2016; cpac; economy; obama; palin; palin2016; sarahpalin; taxes; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 02/27/2013 11:32:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the article...
She, like Jackson, would be identified by the contempt she brings from the Eastern establishment’s salons and Hollywood, which still demands a say when the economic paradigm they speak for has shifted. Panic ensues. Systems degenerate. Seasoned writers become hacks. Artists become propagandists. Traditional “right” and “left” political distinctions become irrelevant. A new division occurs between “nationalists” and “federalists.”






2 posted on 02/28/2013 12:08:59 AM PST by conservative98
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To: conservative98
The WSJ is definitely talking about Palin here.
Palin 2016.
3 posted on 02/28/2013 12:17:52 AM PST by conservative98
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To: conservative98

See my tagline...


4 posted on 02/28/2013 1:10:07 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The more "Blue-State Squeeze" I'm subjected to the less painful the financial hit seems when I contemplate selling my (slightly) under-water mortaged home to move to a Red State.

It really is becoming the tale of "two Americas" - and wondering if our nation may indeed split again - this time for a righteous cause.

5 posted on 02/28/2013 3:48:31 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have made this point that we cannot run another white male against the democrats/communists. The news media wants their democrat to run against another white male. The news media chose Romney for this reason (knocking out Palin, bacman, Cain etc). The news media will try to above all else choose a white male to be the Republican nominee( Christie or Jeb Bush is the liberal news media's fav). So I made the case for Sarah Palin . She would have obliterated the Obama monster even overcoming the voter fraud. The news media wants to portray the GOP as being only of white males (racist , women hating white males)

Sarah Palin for president of U.S. in 2016


6 posted on 02/28/2013 4:09:58 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Psalm 73
... when I contemplate selling my (slightly) under-water mortaged home to move to a Red State.

Reading your comment and your home page, you'd fit right in here in South Carolina. You might find work at the Boeing plant in Charleston.

Weather's much better here too.

SC is the second-most reddest state, right behind Wyoming.

7 posted on 02/28/2013 5:27:53 AM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nationalists are not as easily turned into illuminati finger puppets like Feds are.


8 posted on 02/28/2013 5:31:46 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Democrat_media

I agree. But will she run in 2016? I was very disappointed when she bailed last time.


9 posted on 02/28/2013 5:34:25 AM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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To: Democrat_media

I’ll vote for her again. You can bet I didn’t vote for Juan, he was just on the ticket.


10 posted on 02/28/2013 5:34:46 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: onyx

Ping.


11 posted on 02/28/2013 5:35:30 AM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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If anyone is interested in the orginal article and the orginal report with graphs, maps and data they can be seen at the following links.

America's Red State Growth Corridors -- Wall Street Journal

AMERICA'S GROWTH CORRIDORS: The Key to National Revival - Manhattan Institute


12 posted on 02/28/2013 6:16:43 AM PST by deport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bernie Quigley doesn’t know what “nationalist” or “federalist” mean.
Federalism is shared powers between the states and Federal government. Nationalism is a belief system or political ideology that involves a strong identification of a group of individuals with a nation. The Federalists were nationalists in 1790 and federalists are today.

How is it that one can call the post-nationalists
and transnational coastal elites and their bases nationalist? These are demagogic anti-nationalists dirigists.


13 posted on 02/28/2013 4:00:54 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Psalm 73

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14 posted on 02/28/2013 9:16:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; sickoflibs

Palin ain’t gonna run for President and I doubt she’d win the nomination if she did. Not looking forward to 4 more years of empty wishing.


15 posted on 02/28/2013 9:47:43 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; 2ndDivisionVet
RE :”Palin ain’t gonna run for President and I doubt she’d win the nomination if she did. Not looking forward to 4 more years of empty wishing.”

A clear sign of a dying movement+party.

The following of make believe candidates.

16 posted on 03/01/2013 4:40:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The states of the old Confederacy boast 10 of the top 12 places for locating new plants, according to a recent 2012 study by Site Selection magazine.”

I don't know how many times I heard the phrase, "the South shall rise again", as a child. Little did I know that it was actually prophetic at the time.

Given the country's current socio/political/economic reality, I'm very thankful that I reside there now.

17 posted on 03/02/2013 12:20:55 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: conservative98


Please let it be so. Sarah Palin would wipe the floor with the old Commie, Hillary, and would usher in an age of reform that just might prevent a second American Revolution. I picture Reagan: version 2.0, and I'm not kidding.


18 posted on 03/02/2013 12:27:02 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Democrat_media
Sarah Palin for president of U.S. in 2016

Now there's something I will wholeheartedly agree with you on!

19 posted on 03/02/2013 12:33:22 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Sarah Palin for president of U.S. in 2016 Now there's something I will wholeheartedly agree with you on!

Damn it, if we're going to go down, we might as well go down fighting, and having fun! No more RINOs!

But she would turn out the base like no one else. People will crawl over broken glass for her. And the media won't admit it, but I believe that deep down, a significant amount of the wishy-washy secretly respect her.

20 posted on 03/02/2013 12:39:40 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: upchuck
But will she run in 2016? I was very disappointed when she bailed last time.

I have a strong suspicion that no one was more disappointed about that decision, than Sarah Palin was.

We can speculate endlessly about what it was that caused her to abort her near-certain run for the White House in 2012. Whatever it was, it overpowered her innate sense of duty to country, and her natural tendency to travel the dangerous, but correct course.

I very much hope that she finds the strength to overcome those barriers by 2016. The country desperately needs a leader of her caliber to pull us out of the nosedive we're in.

21 posted on 03/02/2013 12:40:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
...she would turn out the base like no one else. People will crawl over broken glass for her.

Absolutely true. That can't be said of any other political figure on the right, that I know of.

22 posted on 03/02/2013 1:13:39 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
That can't be said of any other political figure on the right, that I know of.

Maybe West or Cruz, but they don't quite approach her status yet.
Think West learned a lesson or two in his defeat for reelection.
Cruz hitting pretty hard now, if he keeps it up.
Other than those two, really nothing attracting my attention yet.

23 posted on 03/02/2013 1:32:35 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun
Other than those two, really nothing attracting my attention yet.

Same here. Whatever we do, we have to unite in opposition to Rove's candidate.

24 posted on 03/02/2013 1:34:07 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Traditional “right” and “left” political distinctions become irrelevant. A new division occurs between “nationalists” and “federalists.”

That is like the "Yankee and Cowboy Wars" scenario of the 70s and 80s.

But it doesn't really work in the way the author wants it to.

The "in" party promotes "nationalism" and the "out" party promotes "federalism" or "state's rights."

When the "ins" become the "outs" and vice versa it subverts a lot of the conclusions people came to based on the earlier scheme of things.

Conservatives in power are less keen on state's rights than conservatives out of power, and liberals out of power are less concerned with centralizing everything in Washington than they were when they were the "in party."

Of course conservatives in office may be less centralizing than liberals in office, and liberals out of office may be less decentralizing than conservatives out of office, but Bernie's version of things doesn't replace the familiar left versus right distinctions.

25 posted on 03/02/2013 1:51:06 PM PST by x
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
we have to unite in opposition to Rove's candidate.

Yup, my guess it's going to be Jeb.
Real subtle at first, but my guess of where Rove will be heading, RINO snake in the grass that he is.

26 posted on 03/02/2013 1:57:45 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun
Maybe West or Cruz, but they don't quite approach her status yet.

Agreed, but they're made of the same fine hardened steel as Sarah. I'm pretty sure those two men are going to figure prominently in the emerging conservative revolution.

27 posted on 03/02/2013 2:20:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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