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Cape Cod community considers taking down wind turbines after illness, noise
foxnews.com ^ | 02/28/2013 | Molly Line

Posted on 02/28/2013 8:11:57 AM PST by massmike

Two wind turbines towering above the Cape Cod community of Falmouth, Mass., were intended to produce green energy and savings -- but they've created angst and division, and may now be removed at a high cost as neighbors complain of noise and illness.

"It gets to be jet-engine loud," said Falmouth resident Neil Andersen. He and his wife Betsy live just a quarter mile from one of the turbines. They say the impact on their health has been devastating. They're suffering headaches, dizziness and sleep deprivation and often seek to escape the property where they've lived for more than 20 years.

"Every time the blade has a downward motion it gives off a tremendous energy, gives off a pulse," said Andersen. "And that pulse, it gets into your tubular organs, chest cavity, mimics a heartbeat, gives you headaches. It's extremely disturbing and it gets to the point where you have to leave."

The first turbine went up in 2010 and by the time both were in place on the industrial site of the town's water treatment facility, the price was $10 million. Town officials say taking them down will cost an estimated $5 million to $15 million, but that is just what Falmouth's five selectmen have decided to move toward doing.

In the meantime, the turbines are being run on a limited schedule as the selectmen respond to the concerns of nearby neighbors. The turbines only run during the day -- from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. -- which means they're operating at a loss.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: capecod; capegodless; coal; electricity; electricitygraphs; greenenergy; kennedycorruption; massachusetts; natgas; windpower; windturbines

1 posted on 02/28/2013 8:12:03 AM PST by massmike
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To: massmike

And what do they think will replace the turbines to treat their water? Coal or oil burning power plants! While that area usually is characterized as a bunch of Limousine Libs, they obviously are, in reality, rich, greedy Republicans who hate the environment.


2 posted on 02/28/2013 8:15:17 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: massmike
the price was $10 million. Town officials say taking them down will cost an estimated $5 million to $15 million

Wow, that's quite an...um..."savings".

Even under the best circumstances they'll still need to be replaced every 15 to 20 years at ever greater "savings".
3 posted on 02/28/2013 8:18:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: massmike

The tree hugger “green” people know how to make you sick at great price!!!


4 posted on 02/28/2013 8:19:49 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: massmike
after illness, noise

not to mention all the dead seagulls that they have to clean up.

5 posted on 02/28/2013 8:20:39 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: massmike
they're operating at a loss

And that's probably after all sorts of subsidies as well as the town's taxpayer money.

Those things are horrible. The jerks over at North Haven in Penobscot Bay put one of those up, right in one of the most beautiful and historic parts of the islands, and you can see it from all over the bay.

I've said from the start that this will be just like all those dams. First they built them everywhere for clean energy, and then they started tearing them down--for the fishes. The windmills will go for the sake of the birds, if not the nearby people.

But, first they have to put them all up, at enormous expense.

6 posted on 02/28/2013 8:21:01 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: massmike
the price was $10 million. Town officials say taking them down will cost an estimated $5 million to $15 million...

Surely the source of Solyndra-like Taxpayer-Green-energy-borrowed/printed money that paid for the POS, will now chip in to remove it.... right?

7 posted on 02/28/2013 8:21:10 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: danamco

NIMBY...
NAMBY...
a and
BANNAA!!

Wonder how many here know whatr those terms mean??


8 posted on 02/28/2013 8:22:58 AM PST by Rca2000 ( Still too shocked to have a tagline....)
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To: danamco

NIMBY...
NAMBY...
a and
BANNAA!!

Wonder how many here know whatr those terms mean??


9 posted on 02/28/2013 8:23:33 AM PST by Rca2000 ( Still too shocked to have a tagline....)
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To: Rca2000

Sorry for the double post, slow, intermittent inetenet here at work!! Moderator—please remove onf of the double posts!!


10 posted on 02/28/2013 8:26:33 AM PST by Rca2000 ( Still too shocked to have a tagline....)
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To: massmike

“And that pulse, it gets into your tubular organs”

What the heck are “tubular organs”?


11 posted on 02/28/2013 8:28:07 AM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: cripplecreek

I should have built a wind turbine business - including one to take them down, I guess.


12 posted on 02/28/2013 8:28:23 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Coal or oil burning power plants!

It won't be an oil burning power plant. Maybe Natural Gas but nobody except very remote or otherwise infrastructure limited areas are going to put in a normally run (not just a backup) oil burning power plant.

Some new plants are designed to run on petroleum coke, the solid, coal-like substance leftover from crude oil after the valuable fuels like gasoline and diesel have been removed. Much of the power plants listed as petroleum fueled are actually burning petroleum coke. Even then, it is very few.


13 posted on 02/28/2013 8:30:14 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: History Repeats

The crazy ones.


14 posted on 02/28/2013 8:32:09 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: massmike

Windmill maker gets Federal kickbacks. Windmills installed at price. Windmills UNinstalled at a price. Local politicians get greased while taxpayers get hosed. I’d say those windmills did EXACTLY what they were intended to do.


15 posted on 02/28/2013 8:33:51 AM PST by 762X51
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To: thackney

A useful graph. It should maybe note that renewables on the chart does also include Hydropower. The growth in that category is from the solar wind etc, but the baseline is hydropower dams, built by the government two or three generation ago.


16 posted on 02/28/2013 8:34:58 AM PST by babble-on
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To: massmike

Liberals.

Science is not their friend.

Math is not their friend.

Economics is not their friend.

Actually, I cannot think of any non-felon committing human who is their friend.


17 posted on 02/28/2013 8:45:58 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: babble-on
A useful graph. It should maybe note that renewables on the chart does also include Hydropower.

The renewables on the chart does include hydropower. Hydropower supplies the majority of the renewables category.

Source:
How much of our electricity is generated from renewable energy?
http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/article/renewable_electricity.cfm

18 posted on 02/28/2013 8:47:46 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: massmike

common sense could have prevented this waste to the taxpayers. as an avid environmentalist concerned with true stewardship of our resources and who works in the green industry it is my honest opinion that this technology, as is solar, is not to the point we can truly use it as a viable long term resources. However, geothermal, hydro are and we should be pushing resources in that direction. We need a conservative candidate who will push hard on green issues - true stewardship thru such as avenues. Where are they? They have to exist? If you know any please post. We are commanded by God to be stewards of the planet He gifted us. This is clearly a conservative cause that his been corrupted by the marxists.


19 posted on 02/28/2013 8:48:51 AM PST by Deathtomarxists (Pantyhose are groovy baby, try some on today!)
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To: babble-on
To better illustrate your point:


20 posted on 02/28/2013 8:50:14 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Deathtomarxists
We need a conservative candidate who will push hard on green issues - true stewardship thru such as avenues. Where are they?

You want a Conservationist. Sorry, they have been shouted down by both sides, but most especially by the dirt worshipers.

21 posted on 02/28/2013 9:07:04 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: History Repeats
“And that pulse, it gets into your tubular organs”

Why does this quote make me think of Gen. Jack Ripper?

22 posted on 02/28/2013 9:22:16 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Smokin' Joe

They didn’t want to fight Kennedy and have the windmills in Hyannis.

Oh well. Kennedy must be laughing from the grave.


23 posted on 02/28/2013 9:23:48 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: History Repeats
What the heck are “tubular organs”?

I think they're located in the swimsuit area.

24 posted on 02/28/2013 9:28:58 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: massmike

Wind turbines going the way of the Chey Volt, snicker snicker.


25 posted on 02/28/2013 9:33:34 AM PST by bgill
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To: massmike
The first turbine went up in 2010 and by the time both were in place on the industrial site of the town's water treatment facility, the price was $10 million. Town officials say taking them down will cost an estimated $5 million to $15 million, but that is just what Falmouth's five selectmen have decided to move toward doing.

Such bullshit.

How can an "estimate" range from $5 to 15 million?

That is not an estimate, that is a "town official" without a clue and the town did not have a contractor come in, investigate and then give an estimate.

Would you hire a contractor that gave you an estimate that had a range up to 300% of error?

26 posted on 02/28/2013 10:03:39 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: USS Alaska

$5-$15M?

Why not spread the rumor that the damn things are made of copper and that Andy and Barney are on vacation next week?


27 posted on 02/28/2013 10:12:26 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: massmike

No fair Mike, the only reason I clicked on this story was to see a picture of Molly Line.


28 posted on 02/28/2013 10:35:19 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Rca2000
Your point?

I live over 2,500 miles away from those windmills. I'm unlikely to complain about them. OTOH, if they were in my back yard, and making me sick, I'd not hesitate to oppose them.

Sorry, but simply spouting acronyms is not a convincing argument.
29 posted on 02/28/2013 10:41:19 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: massmike

The govt needs to teach these folks that they can cut their food bill by taking advantage of the shredded poultry downstream....


30 posted on 02/28/2013 10:45:55 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: thackney

Thackney,

Check into Torrefaction of Wood Pellets. This is a relatively new technology that coal fired plants are looking at to replace coal with a carbon neutral wood pellet. The wood pellet is microwaved, taking all the moisture out of it. That makes them able to ship on boats, trains and trucks without gaining moisture during transit. Thermogen Industries is the company we are selling them from out of Maine. They are planning on building a second mill on the ME coast just to ship to Europe for $120 million.

There is another company Enviva in NC building two or three plants. ConocoPhilips is joining with them on their projects.

This enables the coal fired electric plants to reduce their carbon output without investing money in new equipment. These pellets also put out about 20% more BTU than normal wood pellets.

This is the next big thing in energy. You heard it here first.


31 posted on 02/28/2013 10:50:51 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: 762X51
Windmill maker gets Federal kickbacks. Windmills installed at price. Windmills UNinstalled at a price. Local politicians get greased while taxpayers get hosed. I’d say those windmills did EXACTLY what they were intended to do.

Cynical, but accurate. I like it!

32 posted on 02/28/2013 10:51:55 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Deathtomarxists
I see you included "hydro" in your list of energy resources. I thought that environmentalist do not like "hydro" because of the dams. Am I wrong?

I really wish that people would actually consider the environment of the area before deciding that everyone has to do Solar/Wind, whatever. I live in the Seattle area. Sunshine, not so much, water -- we got plenty. So, we do have hydro power and it works well for us. It would not work,however, for Arizona; just like solar would not be a good choice for Seattle (even if it were to the point where it was viable).

33 posted on 02/28/2013 10:56:54 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: woodbutcher1963
This is a relatively new technology that coal fired plants are looking at to replace coal with a carbon neutral wood pellet.

It is no more or less carbon neutral than coal. Only the time frames are different, not the process. Both are actually solar powered.

You heard it here first.

First time I heard them as a replacement for coal-fired electrical power plant.

34 posted on 02/28/2013 11:08:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: woodbutcher1963
No fair Mike, the only reason I clicked on this story was to see a picture of Molly Line.

Never let it be said I let down my public.....

35 posted on 02/28/2013 11:57:55 AM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: thackney

Wood Pellets are considered carbon neutral. The coal fired plant can add them to its fuel mix and then conform to the federally or state mandated requirements of producing X amount of their electricity from a carbon neutral source without a large additional cost to modernizing its generation plants. They also burn a lot cleaner than coal.


36 posted on 02/28/2013 12:05:47 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: TurboZamboni

Oh, you mean the same organ that Odumbo likes to play. Gotcha.


37 posted on 02/28/2013 12:27:40 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: TurboZamboni

Right next to the tubular bells.


38 posted on 02/28/2013 1:07:21 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Deathtomarxists

I’m going to roll my eyes now. I have worked in American owned major heavy industry all of my career and I have never met an “environmentalist” that has a clear grasp on reality. I won’t even bother with further argument. I know it will be futile. Which verse is that where we are “commanded to be stewards of the planet” again?


39 posted on 02/28/2013 1:43:28 PM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks massmike.


40 posted on 02/28/2013 6:20:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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