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Incomes Drop Most in 20 years
San Diego Source ^ | 03/01/2013 | Michelle Jamrisko

Posted on 03/01/2013 6:12:48 AM PST by safetysign

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To: Opinionated Blowhard
a lot of people’s answer to this is that we should hand out even more government checks

.....To THEM.
That's the problem. These people don't care how many other people suffer. As long as they get theirs, they're fine with it. A check could be as low as one dollar, and they'll still rape and plunder other people to get their hands on it.

Notice they're not mentioning the out of control costs of obomacare. It's already bleeding the population dry, and it isn't even mentioned! Imagine how bad those "tweaked" numbers would be if the cost of obomacare was added to them.
With all that money printing and a population begging government for food as much as the Great Depression, they're not even close to telling us how bad the economy really is.

The money printing is driving us into a bond crash. Student loans aren't being paid because there are no jobs. Another housing crash is inevitable because the democrats Reinvestment Act is still on the books.
Unemployment can go no where but up. No jobs = no expendable cash. No cash = no buying. No buying = no producing. No producing = more layoffs.

The only way to save the economy is to slash the size of government in half and give the American people their money back. It worked in the 1920 depression, and it'll work now.

21 posted on 03/01/2013 6:55:00 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: safetysign

For once in his deplorable life, ZerO should resign for the sake of the country.


22 posted on 03/01/2013 6:55:51 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: safetysign
Excluding food and energy costs, prices climbed 1.3 percent in January from the same month in 2012, the smallest year-to- year gain since April 2011.

So if we drive less, eat less food and keep our thermostats a 65 we'll all feel richer! Reminds me of Jimmah telling everyone to wear a sweater and put a brick in their toilet tank.

23 posted on 03/01/2013 7:04:42 AM PST by Poison Pill (Take your silver lining and SHOVE IT!)
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To: MrB
Consumer spending in the U.S. rose in January even as incomes dropped by the most in 20 years, showing households were weathering the payroll-tax increase by socking away less money in the bank.

Could be used as an argument that things got so good under Bush that there is still a little money left to spend despite the atrocities of the last 5 years........Of course it might also be a sign of despondency and demoralization as folks under Zero have just given up any hope of salvaging a future...

24 posted on 03/01/2013 7:05:03 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We've been trading with China for some time now.

The reason why we're suffering is simply because government is taking more resources from the private, or freely trading, sector. Command economies, like the government, are horribly inefficient, meaning that they generally don't fill the wants of the people that they supposedly serve. They serve themselves first.

25 posted on 03/01/2013 7:07:03 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Right Brother
Yeah, love it. The ‘sentiment’ index is up? Yep, there’s nothing like rising fuel and food prices coupled with declining incomes to get everybody in a chipper mood.

Headline on AOL: "What is the dreaded sequester?"

Freakin' useful idiots.

26 posted on 03/01/2013 7:08:59 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: safetysign
The news media will never blame the culprit Obama the communist dictator idiot who just let out thousands of CRIMINALS( ILLEGAL ALIENS) out of prison to terrorize Americans.the news media will instead blame Rubio taking a drink of water for declining incomes, or Palin posting a picture etc.

impeach this piece of crap Obama

This is with technology increasing exponentially in the PRIVATE sector. Even with this incomes are declining while food and gasoline prices rise.

27 posted on 03/01/2013 7:08:59 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: depressed in 06
For once in his deplorable life, ZerO should resign for the sake of the country.

He considers an economic crash to be "social justice." The radicals on the left believe an economic crash would level the playing field, so the poor will have an equal chance to get ahead.
Liberals have no foresight, which is why everything they do ends in disaster. People are poor because they chose to screw up their lives and believe it's everyone elses fault, so they'll continue to do it. People are poor because they're lazy. They believe everyone else should work to care for them, so they'll continue to be lazy. The productive, who believe they should work and care for themselves will continue to be productive and care for themselves.
In the end, the country will be rebuilt, and the freeloading democrats will still be beggars. The productive right will continue to be productive and prosper. All the suffering caused by the radical left will have been in vain, because character matters. They're forgetting about that part.

28 posted on 03/01/2013 7:10:09 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

You just aptly described the FDR admin.
We are living through another dimrat induced depression while the media then and now just can’t see any of the forest for all those trees in the way.


29 posted on 03/01/2013 7:13:50 AM PST by Texas resident (I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on FR)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I dunno.

I think we are at various spots on the performance curve, observationally.

I’m not debating China has been a boom for itself and to a lesser extent America - except in the way China’s boom has benefitted principally China.

Only. That is what I do not believe any of us has come to terms with yet. China is now winning.

They have the world’s largest export engine, and are in our markets completely freely.

Playing the Chinese market as their own market.

This is rigged. China plays China’s market as China’s. China plays everyone else’s market as the room for competition.

We treat our own market as the rooms for competition.

This is a huge difference.

I believe it is time to begin designing a market protection device of some sort.

We are doing it all wrong.

(IMO)


30 posted on 03/01/2013 7:16:24 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: trebb

Or it could be a sign that people are converting soon-to-be-worthless currency into harder assets.


31 posted on 03/01/2013 7:19:32 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: relictele
Any more ‘recovery’ and we can all enjoy the spectacle of a national economy being given futile shocks with a giant defibrillator.

Do you mean the giant defibrillator they call "QE1", "QE2", "QE3"...?

32 posted on 03/01/2013 7:30:15 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: safetysign
Disposable income, or the money left over after taxes, dropped 4 percent after adjusting for inflation, the biggest plunge since monthly records began in 1959.

2013-1959=54 (years) Way to go, Obama! [Do I really need a sarcasm tag?]

Excluding food and energy costs, prices climbed 1.3 percent in January from the same month in 2012, the smallest year-to- year gain since April 2011.

How convenient! Unfortunately, those of us living in reality can't just exclude food and energy costs from our budget. I wonder what the percentage increase would be if they included food and energy costs.

33 posted on 03/01/2013 7:53:12 AM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: safetysign

The Labor Department uses the ‘Consumer Price Index’ to measure inflation which excludes food and energy. But somehow falling energy prices are a factor for curbing inflation.

Am I missing something?


34 posted on 03/01/2013 8:01:22 AM PST by Enduro Guy
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To: safetysign
So much deception in the quotes. I believe an honest evaluation of the numbers will show we re-entered recession back in June and the consumer economy really started falling apart when Obama was re-elected in November, especially in Republican areas where people are more cautious because they are spending their own money. Paradoxically, the Red State economies look worse now because their consumers are spending their own money instead of the government's.

I'm also sure the Administration has been issuing Woodward-style threats to agencies who know the truth - keep your language vague and mild, or else.

35 posted on 03/01/2013 8:16:00 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: safetysign

Obama voters will be the hardest hit from Obama theft from Medicare.

” The most salient fact is that, to pass Obamacare, the president cut Medicare by more than $700 billion over the coming decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). And these cuts are of the worst kind. They are arbitrary and across the board. They reduce reimbursement rates for all who provide services to Medicare patients, regardless of how well or badly they treat their patients. Among the cuts is a $156 billion reduction in payments to Medicare Advantage plans over ten years. These cuts will force seniors to pay $3,700 more for their health care by 2017, “

Insurers: Cuts to Medicare Advantage will hit poor, minorities
By Sam Baker - 02/21/13 12:28 PM ET

Cuts to Medicare Advantage will disproportionately hurt poor seniors and minorities, the health insurance industry said Thursday.

America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) has pushed back hard against a proposed cut to private Medicare Advantage plans. The Obama administration proposed the 2 percent cut late last week.

AHIP argued Thursday that Medicare Advantage isn’t only popular with seniors, but especially with low-income and minority seniors.

“Medicare Advantage is a lifeline for millions of low-income and minority Medicare beneficiaries who rely on the high-quality coverage and innovative programs and services these plans provide,” AHIP President and CEO Karen Ignagni said in a statement.

Private Medicare Advantage plans are more popular among black and Hispanic seniors than they are overall among seniors, according to AHIP’s report.

AHIP also said 41 percent of Medicare Advantage recipients have an annual income of less than $20,000, compared with 37 percent of all Medicare beneficiaries.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-insurance/284233-insurers-cuts-to-medicare-advantage-will-hit-poor-minorities#ixzz2MJ3TyGZU


36 posted on 03/01/2013 8:34:07 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: MrB; lodi90

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan when talking about Jimmy Carter:

A recession is when your neighbor loses his job,
A depression is when you lose your job,
A recovery is when Barack Obama loses his.


37 posted on 03/01/2013 9:03:44 AM PST by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Those are ships!

They need to call it what it is: intentional devaluation of currency. At least the UK had the honesty to call a spade a spade in the 60s and 70s!


38 posted on 03/01/2013 11:20:20 AM PST by relictele
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