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Alabama Legislature Rams Through School Choice/Flexibility Bill
al.com ^ | Feb 28-March 1,2013 | numerous al.com sources

Posted on 03/01/2013 7:07:35 AM PST by alancarp

**Note to the moderators: this is a summary post for a number of stories on this same topic. All cited links below include full original titles. No single story/link was sufficient; trying to also prevent multiple posts.

Summary: An Alabama Legislative Conference Committee transformed an 8-page education reform bill into a 27-page "bombshell" bill that has now passed both Houses and awaits the Governor's signature. This new bill includes the following provisions:

1. Parents of children in "chronically failing" schools will be allowed to either (a) move into a different (non-failing) public school; or (b) take 80% of the school's funding associated with their child as a tax credit and apply that to enrollment in a private school. This is effectively a modified 'school voucher' program.

2. Tax credits will be allowed for businesses who support private school education.

The speed at which this occurred led to 'shouting' in the Alabama Senate yesterday (i.e., this is a Democrat nightmare scenario - Republicans doing what was done to them in times past). Juicy details in the links below:

School flex bill triples in size in conference committee, takes aim at 'failing schools'

Republicans in bombshell move push through bill giving tax credits for kids at 'failing' schools to go to private schools

School bill switcheroo: Read the school choice bill Republicans rammed through (full text)

Tracking the 2013 session: Republicans pull surprise, ram through school choice bill

From 'historic' to 'sleaziness': Reaction to the school choice bill and how it was approved

Gov. Bentley announces Alabama Accountability Act

Governor Bentley has indicated that he will sign the legislation next week.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: choice; education; flexibility; publicschools; schools; vouchers
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To: TennTuxedo

Do you know if private schools must incorporate the “common core” in order to be certified?


21 posted on 03/01/2013 11:49:16 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: alancarp; ken5050
Here is a big problem I see with this new program

This information is taken from the 'FAQ' article I just cited in my previous post (#20).

Point 1> Alabama spent about $4,442 per student per year in 2010-2011, not including federal and local funding. Since the Accountability Act sets the bar at 80 percent of the state's cost to educate a child in public schools, the tax credit, if it would have existed that year, would have been $3,553.

Point 2> If your state income tax bill is less than the amount of the credit, the state will pay you the difference in the form of a rebate. In other words, if your child qualifies for a $3,500 tax credit, but your state tax bill is only $1,000, the state would send you a check for $2,500.

So there's the rub - and it is understandable: if your total state tax liability is LESS than allowed credit, then you will not get back more money than you owe for any given year. There's some language in the bill that seems to push the remaining credit off to future years, but that's gonna be problematic in any case:

"If income taxes owed by the parent are less than the total credit allowed under this subsection, the taxpayer shall be entitled to a refund or rebate, as the case may be, equal to the balance of the unused credit with respect to that taxable year."

Okay.

The bill is obviously targeted to lower income families (your income must be at or below 150% of the state median, or no credit). Private school tuitions seem to run anywhere from $6000 to $10,000 annually. The tax credit would cut that in half - maybe - but the lower income families most needing to take advantage of the program likely won't even get that much:

If you have no income: no tax credit
If you have an income roughly over $75,000... now you can probably get the entire credit. But that's a pretty stout paycheck for the targeted audience.

The state is relying on provisions intended to encourage businesses and individuals to donate heavily to private schools in the form of scholarships: individuals can can a 100% credit for donations (up to the tax liability); for businesses the limit is 50% credit up to 50% liability.

We'll see if that proves to be enough.

22 posted on 03/01/2013 12:24:16 PM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp; All
In response to the caterwauling from the Dems and the usual lefties, the Alabama GOP should just quote that esteemed political scholar, Nancy Pelosi:

"First, we have to pass the bill before you can find out what's in it..."

And so, they did!!!

23 posted on 03/01/2013 12:42:40 PM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: alancarp

Love it!


24 posted on 03/01/2013 2:21:16 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: ken5050

Here’s the secret to this entire story. In Bama...schools that qualify as “failing”....are almost all in urban city areas (Birmingham, Huntsville, Montgomery, Mobile, etc). So this is mostly all aimed at the counties with urban populations. You don’t like your urban mess? You move the kid. Now, so far, no one has said that you are now limited by county lines...so you could actually take the kid out of the urban city area....cross countylines, and force the new county to accept kid, without any tax contribution.

You can sense some trouble here if two thousand folks cross county lines, and force another school district to accept their kids.


25 posted on 03/01/2013 3:43:20 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: ClearCase_guy

Stockholm Syndrome


26 posted on 03/01/2013 5:22:26 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: alancarp

Is that funding to the classroom or does it include heat, lights, lunches, etc.?


27 posted on 03/01/2013 5:27:28 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Carry_Okie
I have never seen incrementalism really work

It worked for liberals, pro-2nd Amendment and Prolife groups.

28 posted on 03/01/2013 5:28:26 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: alancarp

On a morning news cast this morning, first words out of all the dims mouths was racists, racists, racists. That is the magic word again. Racism. Play it again Sam.


29 posted on 03/01/2013 6:10:46 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: 1010RD
It worked for liberals, pro-2nd Amendment and Prolife groups.

Liberals own every institution of public indoctrination. The problem for conservatives is that the left can spin every small gain made as a failure, simply because it is easy to find remnant consequences of liberalism after the change.

A classic case is Newtown, which occurred because it was a gun-free zone, yet the spin is against liberalized gun laws that were not the cause. Hence, incremental pro-2A laws are on the brink of a death knell, with CCW permits functioning as a list of gun owners from whom their weapons can be confiscated.

Got it now?

Pro-life groups have made gains, but not by compromise. So your citation there is incorrect.

30 posted on 03/01/2013 6:16:23 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: fwdude

No, I don’t believe so. The states have to follow common core as a whole in their public schools if they are to get any of the federal monies.


31 posted on 03/01/2013 8:24:09 PM PST by TennTuxedo
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To: Carry_Okie
I read parts of the essay to which you linked.

I liked the idea of “We Test, Inc.”

Also....Good point about lengthy educations curtailing fertility. It also keeps young people in a prolonged state of immature adolescence.

32 posted on 03/01/2013 8:29:08 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
The prologue to it is long. Yet the reason for it is to impart the understanding with which to appreciate the solution set, as it is deceptively simple. I don't know how else to do it.

Still, it's the best I've seen in terms of a politically realizable set with which to deconstruct our existing statist monolith.

33 posted on 03/01/2013 10:05:38 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Re: Mark Edward Vande Pol

He has good points. What’s needed is for them to be condensed into “talking points”.


34 posted on 03/02/2013 5:17:51 AM PST by wintertime
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To: alancarp
"1. Parents of children in "chronically failing" schools will be allowed to either (a) move into a different (non-failing) public school; or (b) take 80% of the school's funding associated with their child as a tax credit and apply that to enrollment in a private school. This is effectively a modified 'school voucher' program."


35 posted on 03/02/2013 5:24:48 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: wintertime
Re: Mark Edward Vande Pol

He has good points.

"He" is me, always has been. :-)

What’s needed is for them to be condensed into “talking points”.

I can do that. It will take a while, always does.

36 posted on 03/02/2013 6:37:27 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: alancarp
Excellent! We didn't get in this mess overnight, and it won't be eliminated overnight. But this is a massive victory.

The wise will take it.

Yes, I know people are concerned about government regulations. Well, there's nothing to prevent Obama from screwing up private ed now, through accreditation, regulation, or the witholding of federal money.

In the worst case scenario, we will revert to the status quo anti. Think it through.

But here's the real benefit.

Under voucher programs, parents become a conservative constituency. God help Obama when he tries to take their vouchers away.

Moreover, parents become used to being customers, rather than school committee brown nosers. Maybe they'll get used to making decisions for themselves, and develop a distaste for serfdom.

37 posted on 03/02/2013 6:49:03 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: alancarp
Private school tuitions seem to run anywhere from $6000 to $10,000 annually.

Catholic high schools about $6k. Elementary schools about $3k. It can be done.

Of course, tuition is partially subsidized by parishioners.

But as I like to respond to government schools supporters, "Why don't you go out and raise donations for your fine schools? If they're as good as you say, it should be easy."

Watch a bunch of inexpensive, store-front private schools spring up with, gasp, uncertified teachers!... If the law allows.

38 posted on 03/02/2013 6:55:18 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: pepsionice
Exactly. I live in Elmore county, and my kids go to school here. We have fairly nice schools here. However, the county to the Southeast of us is Macon, with the county seat of Tuskegee, which is one of the most democratic counties in America. Guess what is going to happen to our schools?

However, there is a very silver lining here for those who wish to take it. If the school is failing you put your kid in a private school. And now this bill will cover 80% of the costs in a tax writeoff! Most of the private schools in Alabama are Christian schools, and many are very, very good, teaching not only the basics, but also instilling a Christian, moral, ethical, pro-American curriculum.

I can't see how this can hurt, if poorly taught kids (yes, even blacks) go to such institutions. In fact, I have several black colleagues who see the truth and pay for their kids private education, and their kids really benefit from it, as these schools do not condone the gansta way found elsewhere.

39 posted on 03/02/2013 7:11:24 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Carry_Okie
Very thoughtful essay. Good Job!

Have you posted it as a vanity here on Free Republic. If you do I will comment on it and bring it to the attention of the “Another Reason to Homeschool” ping list.

40 posted on 03/02/2013 8:34:22 AM PST by wintertime
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