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Goodbye California, Hello Texas: Gun Retailer Announces Move
Town Hall ^ | Mar. 1, 2013 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 03/01/2013 11:44:06 AM PST by EXCH54FE

When it comes to gun laws, California is vying to have the strictest in the nation. It comes as no surprise, then, that the state is not a particularly business-friendly environment for those in the gun industry.

And so Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s wishes are beginning to come true:

Shield Tactical, a California retailer and firearms training provider, has decided to ‘get the heck out of Dodge’ — and move to Texas

John W. Harrington founded Shield Tactical in 2008, but with California’s hard-line stance on gun control, he decided the state was no longer a good place for his business. Harrington, originally from Texas, said it was finally “time to go home.”

“The state of California treats all businesses as necessary evils,” he told Red Alert. “They treat those of us in the gun business as just evil. They make it very clear that they don’t want us there. It’s just that simple.”

As new gun control measures are being advanced in state legislatures across the nation, Gov. Perry has been trying to lure gun and ammunition manufacturers to set up shop in the Lone Star State—even making a recruitment trip out to California to do so. Although Shield Tactical didn’t make the decision based on the governor’s efforts alone, Harrington said, “it didn’t hurt.”

Harrington hasn’t calculated the total cost of the relocation — which will not include their training division — but he expects it to be “in the tens of thousands.” He considers the investment “well worth it,” if only for the attention it has brought to the cause of gun rights advocates.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; migration; secondamendment; trends
Meanwhile, Beretta and Magpul are also considering parting ways with Maryland and Colorado, respectively.
1 posted on 03/01/2013 11:44:19 AM PST by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

>>>Meanwhile, Beretta and Magpul are also considering parting ways with Maryland and Colorado, respectively.<<<

And Remington Arms with New York.


2 posted on 03/01/2013 11:46:40 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: EXCH54FE

I think it’s time to temporarily consider avoiding guns built in New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, Connecticut, etc.

This is for all the marbles. Kimber, Remington, Springfield, S&W etc. All are built in rabid anti gun, solid Obama, union crushed states.

Yeahh,, i know they had a grand tradition back there. But as the Allman Brothers sang. “that was then,,this is now”.
They need to move and help starve the beast.


3 posted on 03/01/2013 12:03:20 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree a temporary boycott of guns built in those blue states would entice a move to friendlier climes. Once upon a time, those states were far more American in their makeup, but they’re permanently conquered territory now. As with businesses in other segments of the economy, the time to move is now, before those states start instituting exit taxes.


4 posted on 03/01/2013 12:14:33 PM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: EXCH54FE

The cost to some will be loss of a job. True, they might consider relocating but that’s never easy or cheap even when possible.

Being unfriendly to businesses is being unfriendly to the folks they support too, just average citizens trying to earn a living.


5 posted on 03/01/2013 12:25:03 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: EXCH54FE

“has decided to ‘get the heck out of Dodge’”

I would not call California “Dodge”. A certain communist country would be a better fit.


6 posted on 03/01/2013 12:33:57 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: count-your-change

Breaking my heart. And also backwards. THEY are the ones being unfriendly to ME by supporting the enemy financially. If they want my loyalty or “friendship”,,then it behooves them to make sure they please the customer.

When i see New york, Illionois, or Massachusetts stamped on a on gun, i look at it the way i would a little Obama symbol. It displeases me. If you sell candy bars, you try not to make customers visualize poop. Ditto with guns.


7 posted on 03/01/2013 12:47:15 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: count-your-change
Being unfriendly to businesses is being unfriendly to the folks they support too, just average citizens trying to earn a living.

Those same average citizens trying to earn a living are the ones buying imported cars, electronics, RVs, motors, firearms, sporting goods, clothing and crap from China.

8 posted on 03/01/2013 12:55:18 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: DesertRhino
I didn't see anyone asking for your loyalty or friendship.
9 posted on 03/01/2013 12:59:45 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Alaska Wolf

How much imported stuff do you buy?


10 posted on 03/01/2013 1:03:50 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Alaska Wolf

How much imported stuff do you buy?


11 posted on 03/01/2013 1:04:02 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change
How much imported stuff do you buy?

Damned little and none if I could still find US owned manufacturers.

12 posted on 03/01/2013 1:21:31 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: DesertRhino
It displeases me. If you sell candy bars, you try not to make customers visualize poop.

Have you seen a Baby Ruth candy bar lately?

13 posted on 03/01/2013 2:19:57 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

All I can think of the swimming pool scene from Caddyshack.


14 posted on 03/01/2013 2:22:41 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: DesertRhino
When i see New york, Illionois, or Massachusetts stamped on a on gun, i look at it the way i would a little Obama symbol. It displeases me.

One day, we may look at those old stampings as quirky reminders of an unfortunate period in our history. Sort of like my Anschutz with the barrel that is marked "West Germany".

15 posted on 03/01/2013 3:09:50 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Alaska Wolf

People are struggling to get by and feed their families so they buy the lowest priced items they can. I can’t blame them for doing so.


16 posted on 03/01/2013 4:19:21 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: ScottinVA
I agree a temporary boycott of guns built in those blue states would entice a move to friendlier climes.

You'd be hurting the gun manufacturers in those states more than the States themselves. Think it through: States like Illinois (I live here, sadly.....) want nothing more than honest, hard-working gun makers like Rock River Arms located in Colona IL and maker of one of the finest AR-15's available to leave the state.

The idiots running this state would consider it a victory.

Are you sure you want to give the idiot politicians in blue states that kind of victory?

17 posted on 03/01/2013 4:24:07 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: count-your-change
People are struggling to get by and feed their families so they buy the lowest priced items they can. I can’t blame them for doing so.

Well who are you going to blame when all the manufacturing jobs are offshore so all the people are struggling to feed their families?

How did people survive and prosper prior to the flood of imports in the late '60s?

18 posted on 03/01/2013 4:29:08 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: DesertRhino
I think it’s time to temporarily consider avoiding guns built in New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, Connecticut, etc.

I agree with that and have placed my order to buy a Browning rifle instead of one made by Remington. I wrote to Remington to tell them why I had decided on the Browning, an expensive rifle, BTW.

19 posted on 03/01/2013 5:50:41 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Alaska Wolf

Do you think someone buying imported goods forces manufacturing off shore or is it gov. policies that should be blamed?


20 posted on 03/01/2013 7:04:08 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

Stop this back or forth.

Let’s just fix it. Bring back US jobs now.


21 posted on 03/01/2013 7:15:07 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: count-your-change
Do you think someone buying imported goods forces manufacturing off shore or is it gov. policies that should be blamed?

Not someone, but certainly millions of someones. Government policies have undoubtedly contributed to the present situation, but what policies made Americans start buying ever increasing numbers of imports in the 1960s?

22 posted on 03/01/2013 7:31:15 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: count-your-change
Well who are you going to blame when all the manufacturing jobs are offshore so all the people are struggling to feed their families?

How did people survive and prosper prior to the flood of imports in the late '60s?

23 posted on 03/01/2013 7:32:43 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

One policy was not demanding foreign markets be as open to American goods as the U.S. market was to theirs, Japan being a notable example.

And many foreign manufacturers actually tried to produce what the buyers wanted, the automobile industry being a case in point.

The simple truth is that a family like a business must live within it’s income. If buying a cheaper imported product will do it then that’s what they’ll do.


24 posted on 03/01/2013 10:12:40 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change
If buying a cheaper imported product will do it then that’s what they’ll do.

Then don't bitch and moan when the company you work for closes its doors or moves offshore and unemployment and underemployment continue to rise.

25 posted on 03/01/2013 10:17:31 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
“How did people survive and prosper prior to the flood of imports in the late ‘60s?”

Not everyone survived and prospered. Gas rationing and a wage and price freeze come to mind. And of course the U.S. economy of 50 years ago is not the economy of today.

26 posted on 03/01/2013 10:19:18 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change
Gas rationing and a wage and price freeze

In the 50s and 60s? When and where?

27 posted on 03/01/2013 10:28:51 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Who said 50s or 60s? Getting back to the point at hand,
You were griping about people buying imported stuff when you do so yourself.

I'm not ready to blame the countries economic problems on some parent shopping at WalMart to save a few bucks.

28 posted on 03/02/2013 1:06:27 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: usconservative

Well, my heart’s out for anyone who has to languish in a state like that. As for the gun manufacturers, you bring up a good point, but those blue states’ anti-gun policies will drive them out anyway.


29 posted on 03/02/2013 5:04:38 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: count-your-change
Who said 50s or 60s

When did it start?

You were griping about people buying imported stuff when you do so yourself.

Not until I've been forced to because I can't find a particular item, like a TV or computer, made in the USA.

I'm not ready to blame the countries economic problems on some parent shopping at WalMart to save a few bucks.

You're part of the problem. Don't bitch and moan when you or your neighbors see your jobs eliminated or moved offshore. If you're not interested in supporting your community, state and country you'll reap what you sow.

30 posted on 03/02/2013 10:54:17 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Typing complaints about imported goods on an imported keyboard and imported computer....Outstanding!....I love the sheer self justification....”I”m forced to”....right, but parents buying shoes for their kids aren't, and old folks trying to live on a few hundred bucks a month aren't....Those folks are a “problem”, let’em eat cake!
31 posted on 03/02/2013 12:04:59 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change
Typing complaints about imported goods on an imported keyboard and imported computer.

It's a laptop that was given to me. Can you point me to all those brands manufactured here in the US by US owned companies?

parents buying shoes for their kids aren't

There are USA manufactured shoes for children. Evidently you, like so many others, simply don't care.

old folks trying to live on a few hundred bucks a month

Besides food, shelter, heat and light, what will these people you refer to be buying with their few hundred bucks a month?

32 posted on 03/02/2013 12:23:31 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
“Besides food, shelter, heat and light, what will these people you refer to be buying with their few hundred bucks a month?”

Beyond that what could they possibly want? A telephone? Medicine? Nah...Who cares? After all they're a “problem” because they try to save by buying imported goods.

“There are USA manufactured shoes for children. Evidently you, like so many others, simply don't care.”

Sure there are and Mama will compare prices and think about her budget and buy accordingly.

But she's a “problem” too since she doesn't have much money.

“It's a laptop that was given to me. Can you point me to all those brands manufactured here in the US by US owned companies?”

Use your imported laptop to search the internet.

33 posted on 03/02/2013 2:08:20 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change
Mama will compare prices and think about her budget and buy accordingly.

Exactly the reason there are so few USA owned and operated US manufacturers. You want high paying jobs in the US, but you don 't want to buy US products. Well as a former teammate of mine used to say, "You just crapped in your own dinner basket. I hope you enjoy the meal! "

Use your imported laptop to search the internet.

I did, because unlike you, I care.

34 posted on 03/02/2013 2:57:53 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Those evil people! Thinking about prices and their budgets in a time of recession!

If only they would forget all that and just spend, spend spend happy days and good jobs would would magically appear.

All this and you can even tell me what I want....Outstanding! And you care too!

But I’ve no more time for you...so away with you, that’s it go, I’m done with you.


35 posted on 03/02/2013 5:03:35 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: EXCH54FE

I can hear this punchline in the very near future:
Liberals: “We’re gunna come and force you not to secede!!!”
Texas: “Oh, yeah, just where are you going to get a gun??!!”


36 posted on 03/02/2013 5:57:51 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: count-your-change
just spend, spend spend

If you spend, spend, spend and you don't have the income, you're stupid.

Evidently you are an Obamabot also.

June 30, 2009 Wal-Mart announced today that it was backing Obama’s government health care plan. The discount retail giant was joined by the Service Employees International Union and the left-wing Center for American Progress. I’m done with you.

Good, your ignorance won't be missed.

37 posted on 03/02/2013 6:06:36 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: ScottinVA
As for the gun manufacturers, you bring up a good point, but those blue states’ anti-gun policies will drive them out anyway.

Yes, the blue states anti-gun policies will drive them out. What we shouldn't do in the process is punish the gun manufacturers in blue states. Buy their products and urge them to move out I think is a better approach.

If we stop buying from them and they go out of business, the state wins. We can't allow that to happen!

Personally I'll miss Rock River Arms when they move out of IL. I'll be glad to have helped fund their move though. :-)

38 posted on 03/02/2013 8:12:00 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: EXCH54FE
When it comes to gun laws, California is vying to have the strictest in the nation.

WOW - a State willing to mimic the brilliance of Chicago and Detroit on gun control. Doesn't get much stupider than that...

39 posted on 03/02/2013 8:48:50 PM PST by GOPJ (To be free is to own one's risk - Jonathan Levy)
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