Skip to comments.Officer kills man who refused to give up gun, chief says (TX)
Posted on 03/01/2013 2:06:59 PM PST by bgill
The man had called police saying that he had just shot and killed dog that he said had was attacking him. The dispatcher asked the man to return to his home and let police take over once they arrived, Acevedo said. When the officer arrived, the man had the semiautomatic pistol tucked into his waistband, the chief said.
The man was told to give up the gun, but instead drew it on the officer, Acevedo said. The officer then drew his gun and fired. He was pronounced dead around 7:45 a.m., Acevedo said.
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Sounds suspiciously like suicide by cop and the sorry scum used the dog to get the cops out there.
I would agree.
It is not uncommon for an officer to ask someone who is showing their gun to put it down on the ground or hand it to the officer.
They don’t have to, but it is still common however you do not point it at the officer without consequences.
Hmmm. Very suspicious.
Perhaps the cop was upset that the dog was already shot, so he fired in retaliation?
“that he said had was”
My brain skipped a beat there,,,,,.....
Only cops can shoot dogs....
All my legal training has come from watching tv...but, I’m pretty sure if a cop tels you to put the gun down, you have to.
He will say its a lawful order, for his safety, until he can assess the situation and see who the good guys/bad guys are.
He took advantage of Texas’ Stand Your Ground Law, but just for a few seconds.
The lesson may be that it is a good idea to drop your weapon when ordered to by a cop.
Unless he's in your house without a warrant or permission...
Drew on the officer? Bad choice.
The headline makes it look like gun confiscation.
I guess that’s next year’s multiple headlines...
Drawing on a cop.
Sounds like he was nuts or suicidal. The cop wasn’t trying to confiscate it, he asked him to put it inside.
The idea that merely having a gun is a threat to an officer is over the line, but no one notices. Cops have guns and can stick them in your face, but if you react, THEY are threatened. IF the guy wasn’t acting in a threatening way, he shouldn’t have had to remove his gun. If he WAS acting in a threatening way, the cop should have held him at gunpoint, since he was armed. So the fact that the cop had his own gun holstered, while the guy was armed, meant the cop DID NOT feel any threat, but was merely disarming a civilian for the sake of disarming a civilian.
If an argument about this completely illegal order then occured, and then the angry citizen complied with the illegally demanding cop by removing his gun from its carry position, well then, at that moment the cop could say that “the angry man drew his gun” and so the cop shot him.
Wake up people, this civilian was shot dead after freely calling the cops on his own, and now he’s dead and slandered and the cop is praised without anyone thinking things through. This madness is getting WAY out of control - badges should not come with “007” engraved on them, and civilians should not be disarmed by police without probable cause. JUST BEING ARMED in the presence of the police is NOT A CRIME OR A THREAT to the police.
I was kind of thinking along your lines also, but it’s really hard to tell from the limited info in the story.
The shooter (the cop) only has 3 years experience so he might still be a little green as far as knowing when he was facing a real threat or creating one himself.
On public property, maybe, on my property, no. If he feels uncomfortable with me having a possession of a weapon while I am on my property he is welcome to leave, unless he has a warrant for my arrest.
Pointing a weapon at someone can get you injured or killed.
From the article; "When an officer tries to secure a weapon, you cannot draw and aim at an officer and not expect that officer to defend himself," Acevedo said.
A woman who calls herself Lena lives three houses down from where the shooting happened. She walked outside and witnessed the confrontation.
"Him and the guy were in close proximity," said Lena. "And he had no other choice but to protect himself. The guy didn't want to put the gun down."
Now that there’s funny!
an excellent post.
BTTT. What you said.
The cop is innocent until proven guilty; but there ought to be a thorough review and let the law proceed as necessary.
Well if he is performing his duties (responding to a call, chasing a guy, investigating something suspicious, whatever), he can do all kinds of stuff on your property - trespass, for example. And while he’s trespassing, he can certainly tell you to put your gun down.
Again, my legal degree came out of a Cracker Jack box...but a cop does not even need a warrant to cuff you and detain you on the scene, if he is trying to sort out a situation.
Not saying its right or wrong, but that’s the way it is.
Nope, KEYE just now reported on tv the neighbors are siding with the cop. They are confirming the rumors I’d heard earlier that the guy pointed the gun at the officer causing the officer to pull out his gun. They faced off adn the guy lost.
I still suspect it was probably suicide by cop and the poor dog paid the price.
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