Posted on 03/01/2013 11:48:04 PM PST by Bratch
Via the Andrea Tantaros Show, I assume his point here about the urgency of economic renewal will form the core of his CPAC speech so consider this a sneak preview.
Interesting little exchange between him and Tantaros: She seizes on his message about opposing political correctness to steer him towards criticizing Christie’s and GOProud’s exclusion on those grounds, that it’s a form of conservative PC. But that’s not really where he takes it.
He comes back at her, essentially, with something similar to Mitch Daniels’s idea of a “truce” on social issues. We need a big tent right now because rescuing the country from fiscal unsustainability takes precedence over all other disagreements. There’ll be time later to decide which cultural ideas are “barnicles” on the ship of state after it’s been turned around.
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During the interview, the doctor makes some newsworthy comments regarding the 2nd Amendment. It's another example of how hard it is to find a candidate that's agreeable to everyone.
Sounds like someone should form a conservative CPAC! LOL
The meaning of “republican” has already been changed, if we allow “conservative” to be redefined the game is over.
And this sort of cultural moderation from Carson is precisely why i find him yet another flash in the pan minority who utters a few conservative paragraphs and stupid knee jerk racial redress conservatives like Hannity and plenty here act like a fat girl who just got asked to prom
Freepers fall for this over and over
A minority candidate..however ideologically soft.....will carry minorities
No...it will not
Here in TN a white ultra liberal Jew beat a black conservative in a nearly all black district for Congress....Cohen
I think whites who kneejerk over this only know Cosby blacks...or none at. All
Not me obviously....all my life as a minority white or at least as merely. A tentative majority
Only true well known black conservative i know.....Clarence Thomas....West is ok....but mercurial
Some lesser knowns out there.....that judge lady Bush should have nominated over Souterish Roberts......
Ditto latinos.....Cruz maybe....Rubio...no.....and both are what Indian Mexicans would consider white....both are Canary island origin I guess
Orientals.....Michelle Malkin is top notch and she links sites they don't allow. Here that i like
So yes....i have supported minority. Candidates but there are precious few and i don't support them any more for being non white or female
I find that so tedious
The big tent approach will actually make a smaller base. You’re not going to win elections by driving out social conservatives. We don’t need two liberal parties. Suspect the Republican party will fail miserably going down this road.
The first C in CPAC is supposed to be Conservative not Conciliation!
The people who think ignoring social issues (going liberal) is going to make the tent bigger are blithering idiots
How is he a candidate? He makes one good speech and already the Pathetic Party nutroots want him to run?
Yes it will. The car has a flat tire, they are saying lets let the air out of the other 3 and get moving!
But I've heard more than one person say he would make a good President.
We need to separate the wheat from the chaff.
I remember the same crap about Scott Brown. If Ben has posed for Playgirl he’d have even more fans here I guess. ugh
i find it ironic that the only ones seemingly “excluded” from this CPAC, are conservatives and conservatism, itself.
it’s a bit of a laugh when i read “journalists” opining about us believers and our philosophy, conservatism—i.e. based on the very ground and bedrock of Truth, God Himself—as mere “social issues” or “cultural barnicles.” but i keep forgetting, we’re not conservatives, we’re “social conservatives.”
it makes sense that “journalism,” which after all is just the exploitation of human suffering for personal gain, would have to oppose the Truth, wouldn’t it? for the journalist, human suffering has to have many fathers to be profitable; for us it has one, that would be boring old sin.
Republicans forming another circular firing squad while Obama releases 700 pages of Obamacare regulations designed to destroy healthcare in this country.
This is why I left the R party and became an Independent. I cannot be unequally yoked with something that I believe is a reason for the country’s downfall . It really is liberating.
Will the R’s also look at adding government paid abortions for any reason to the big tent?
A few years ago, I had a wierd dream. It was george bush the younger holding a wooden road sign which read, “Ex hic.” Then the dream shifted and a caricature of bush was holding another wooden road sign that read, “Quo vadis.”
Before my eyes, the words caught fire and began to spread across the entire sign until it was burned up. bush was laughing hysterically.
I took it to mean that we were on the road to hell and he knew it. Not only knew it, but was part of it.
Looks as if the dream and my interpretation of it was right on.
One good speech warrants this...
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX for president Woo! Woo!
It is a FreeRepublic right of passage. We have had dozens of them.
There is a right Candidate and they will come forward or it won't matter. Certainly not to someone my age.
Thank you for a provocative post that gets right to the heart of the matter. As far as I'm concerned, this guy's sell by date has expired. Conservatism is all about being Conservative. For all of his highly-touted intelligence, that key, fundamental principle eludes him.
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It's not a "truce" when only ONE side stops fighting!
It's an unconditional SURRENDER!
The “ship of state” is the Titanic. God is the Iceberg. The so-called “barnacles” are not the “cultural issues” but are the idiots crewing the ship!
The view from my aussie window is that the Republican party is becoming the right wing of the democrat party. Some of you yanks might take offense at an aussie giving his opinions about the politics of a country he doesn’t live in. All I can say is that I loved guys like John Wayne and the late General Norman Schwarzkopf. Not because they were tough guys. I loved them because they were authentically something else. They represented the rugged individual and the embodiement of the American reaction to European centralisation tendencies. They held their heads high as Americans and weren’t wont to apologise for that. I have to believe that for all America’s faults and contradictions it can and must become that light on the hill again. A country of thrift, enterprise and personal responsibility that is its destiny. Alas that mantle won’t be recovered by adopting the social policies of the greco-roman left aka European socialism.
The big tent never has and never will cover enough to satisfy the GOPe. The big-tenters want us to cover gay marriage but not basic tea-party principles; Islam but not biblical Christianity; the Second Amendment but not unfettered, responsible gun-ownership; and the list could go on. Unfortunately, if Carson wants that tent to cover GOProud & Chris Christi, it’s way too big for me.
The mentally diseased perverts vote 99% demrat regardless if they label themselves GOP. Never submit to the queer con.
The Republican party as it stands today can KMA.
I don’t care what they do at CPAC, I see what they are doing every day in Congress:——NOTHING.
Doesn’t mean I won’t vote for a goo Republican if I get the chance, but as a party THEY FRICKIN SUCK.
I would love to see a new party.This one is totally out of touch with it’s base.
The Republican party as it stands today can KMA.
I don’t care what they do at CPAC, I see what they are doing every day in Congress:——NOTHING.
Doesn’t mean I won’t vote for a good Republican if I get the chance, but as a party THEY FRICKIN SUCK.
I would love to see a new party.This one is totally out of touch with it’s base.
At this point I don’t think it matters any longer who CPAC invites or doesn’t invite. CPAC has levered itself out of the Conservative stream and over into the Republican cesspool. ACU is making the same moves. Soon the word Conservative will mean, in common parlance, what Republican means now- squishy center/left not organizational Democrats but taking their lead from the Democrats.
The guy seems to be to the left of Colin Powell, and IMO we shouldn’t make our usual mistake of rushing to promote any minority we can fashion into a conservative icon when he/she isn’t really much of a conservative.
It drives me nuts when the talking heads bring in some NE RINO that happens to be OK of fiscal issues, to tell us how to reform the party.
When they get through yapping, the ‘conservative’ talking head never has the brains to inform them that their ‘magic plan’ to reform the party is nothing more than turning it into the Libertarian party!
The same stupid libertarian ‘stink bombs’ that keep those Godless idiots from ever winning an election, to anything, is the policy they want conservative Republicans to adopt!
Liberal morons, welfare/race pimps, and Communist elites in higher education won't vote for fiscal conservatives just because they agree to accept queer marriage, abortion, and open borders.
IT DON'T WORK!
Back in the days when I cared about CPAC, I would have been in favor of Christie showing up just to watch him get booed off the stage.
Now, though, I don’t really care what goes on there. The thing is rancid with appeasement Republicans, and even a minute spent stressing over what Republicans are doing is a waste of time.
I used to be amazed, but now I’m just amused, by people who use the words Conservative and Republican interchangeably.
Is he conservative? Compared to what? Compared to the list of Republican presidential candidates since Reagan?
Christie sure doesn't want to be labeled as a conservative!
Finally!! I was waiting for someone to mention it, and you hit it squarely on the head. I’m so confused by all this CPAC commentary I have no idea whats going on. On various threads I’ve read the following:
— Chris Christie is a RINO and shouldn’t be invited to CPAC (74% popularity in Blue NJ, cutting taxes and attacking unions on a constant basis)
— Ben Carson — great guy for going after Obama!
— Ben Carson — RINO because he thinks Christie should have been invited to CPAC
— S.E. Cupp — RINO because she’s shunning CPAC because they are rejecting the homos
— On another thread... “CPAC is dead to me ever since they let the homos in a few years ago”
and on and on and on.
The fine folks on this board are great at finding ways to demonize anyone who isn’t intellectually pure. And you really think you’re going to find an intellectually pure Presidential candidate who can be elected? Ha. Good luck.
The same stupid libertarian ‘stink bombs’ that keep those Godless idiots from ever winning an election, to anything, is the policy they want conservative Republicans to adopt!
I don’t understand the goal posts of conservatives, either. Dr. Carson OTOH, has got to be the most intelligent, logical people I have ever heard speak at a national level. He also talks about God constantly, at least more than any political type I can ever remember doing — from either party.
I like opinions from Australia ...both counties have similarities and a lot of cultural exchange. So many Aussie actors in Hollywood etc. Do you really like roasted beet on your hamburger? I hear just about all your beef is grass fed...a big plus in my book
The trend is the wrong direction, and pushing back isn’t necessarily intellectual purity.
CPAC is turning RINO.
I agree with you about Dr. Carson wrt his logic, intelligence and speaking about God.
For those who haven’t seen it, here’s the line-up of speakers at CPAC: http://conservative.org/cpac/2013/
While some may not be everyone’s cup of tea as a ‘conservative’, there are what I would consider Tea Party favorites and/or conservatives speaking, including:
Ted Cruz - IIRC giving keynote address
Sarah Palin
Kelly Ayotte
Bobby Jindal
Allen West
Pat Toomey
Scott Walker
Ron Johnson
Mike Lee
Rand Paul
Paul Ryan
I think it’s unfortunate that Eric Cantor is speaking and Trey Gowdy is not (I don’t know a lot about Trey, but I’ve been impressed with him on Greta’s show).
Dr. Carson is a good spokesman for a lot of conservative values. However, I was not ready to hop on to the presidential band wagon some folks want to flag off.
Don’t understand why so many folks are in denial about why Present Obama got a second term. Fact is, the GOP (and not just Romney) made too many public mistakes during the campaign and a lot more voters than one might imagine just could not vote for a non-fundamental Christian candidate.
I think Romney is likely a good man and would have been a thousand times better than Obama, but it is what it is. A real catalyst will eventually weed out the Obama crowd.
So CPAC has turned away Pamela Gellar. .freaks
No, by all means - let's indulge in that "diversity is our strength" nonsense that has served the left so well and invite Øbongo to attend as well.
In Dr. Carson's recent book America the Beautiful he speaks of blacks he admires, and also non-blacks he admires. He does not mention Allen West or Clarence Thomas in the entire book. He does not mention Thomas Sowell, and given each of their messages to America I found that strange. Dr. Carson gushes over Colin Powell though, and speaks comlpimentary about Scott Brown. In my personal opinion in the book he speaks way too nice of Obama. The book does not leave me with the feeling that he is America's next conservative savior.
Well said, as always.
This article perfectly illustrates the reason I don’t start turning backflips over the latest person who steps onstage and says something anti-Obama. We conservatives have a tendency to latch on like a pit bull on a bone, especially if the person happens to be a minority. Forums all over the internet are full of conservatives hailing Carson as our next presidential candidate. Premature much?
Give me a solid conservative who isn’t ashamed of social issues, and he has my vote. I don’t pick my candidates based on race nor ethnicity; that’s a losing game. Folks who think otherwise only need look at Allen West, and how that worked out. (And I would vote for that man in a second, but his color isn’t a selling point for me-—his positions and his record are).
Carson doesn’t believe people in populated areas should be able to own semi-automatic weapons. And from what I’ve read, he refused to admit to Hannity who he voted for in 2008, so that tells me a lot.
Someone can talk about God alot, but when they embrace the queer agenda, abortion, drugs, perverted lifestyles etc, it becomes nothing but ‘talk’.
I don't buy it and neither do voters.
This shows how desperate conservatives are to find a ‘Moses’ to lead them out of the political wilderness. One speech, and Carson is the new ‘IT’ candidate. Now it appears the new conservative idol has feet of clay.
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