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Popular Standard Shotgun Could Be Banned Under Proposed Bill
CBS 4 Denver ^ | March 1, 2013

Posted on 03/02/2013 7:35:39 AM PST by ConservativeInPA

DENVER (CBS4) – A popular hunting shotgun could be banned under one of the bills moving through the state Capitol.

A pump or semi-automatic shotgun is the gun most hunters in Colorado use. It’s a gun state Sen. Greg Brophy, R-Wray, says could be banned under a bill that’s already passed the House and Gov. John Hickenlooper says he’ll sign.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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I had no doubt that they would eventually come after hunting arms.
1 posted on 03/02/2013 7:35:50 AM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

Time to go after these politicians, peacefully of course.


2 posted on 03/02/2013 7:40:11 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

They’ll be coming after automotive spray paint next, particularly black automotive spray paint.


3 posted on 03/02/2013 7:41:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ConservativeInPA

Another communists controlled State.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 7:41:44 AM PST by Logical me
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To: ConservativeInPA
We are dangerously near realizing the entire Congress is corrupt ... both parties

Now ... does anyone know a way to clear the entire LOT of 'em in a way that might be construed as decent and political ?

Me neither.

5 posted on 03/02/2013 7:43:27 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Insanity. Camels nose is deep into the tent. Stock up, if you can. This is going to get way uglier than it is already.

FMCDH(BITS)

6 posted on 03/02/2013 7:43:27 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: ConservativeInPA
We are dangerously near realizing the entire Congress is corrupt ... both parties

Now ... does anyone know a way to clear the entire LOT of 'em in a way that might be construed as decent and political ?

Me neither.

7 posted on 03/02/2013 7:43:43 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Hey, I was in the market for a shotgun. The Vice President recommended to Americans, that we get shotguns for home defense. What’s going on here?


8 posted on 03/02/2013 7:44:20 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: ConservativeInPA

They need to start small and go after BB guns first


9 posted on 03/02/2013 7:47:05 AM PST by woofie
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To: ConservativeInPA

Time to start boycott hunting in Colorado. I go every year for elk but won’t be back this year. It’s big industry in the mountain towns and out of staters basically fund the state wildlife agency.


10 posted on 03/02/2013 7:48:01 AM PST by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: knarf
Now ... does anyone know a way to clear the entire LOT of 'em in a way that might be construed as decent and political ?

"It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter'd your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil'd this sacred place, and turn'd the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress'd, are yourselves gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!" - Oliver Cromwell.

Ça ira.

11 posted on 03/02/2013 7:53:59 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Joe Biden should come to the defense of all Coloradans.


12 posted on 03/02/2013 7:55:03 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: knarf
Now ... does anyone know a way to clear the entire LOT of 'em in a way that might be construed as decent and political?

Yeah. Vote the bums out./s

What a very scary joke our "leaders" have become.

FMCDH(BITS)

13 posted on 03/02/2013 7:55:03 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I remember just a few weeks ago there were people, even here, saying this sort of thing couldn’t happen in Colorado. That conservative Democrats would be under so much pressure that this move to massively infringe 2nd amendment rights would largely fail.

Never a trust a Democrat politician - even a rural Democrat. There is no such thing as a good one. At heart they all fundamentally believe in big government regulation and nanny statism. Given a crisis they can take advantage of, they will always turn out far, far more leftwing than they let on. Many Republicans aren’t much better, but make no mistake - Democrats at all levels are the primary enemy.


15 posted on 03/02/2013 8:05:36 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Hey, I was in the market for a shotgun. The Vice President recommended to Americans, that we get shotguns for home defense. What’s going on here?

Uncle Joe says all you need is a double barrel shotgun, two 12 ga shells, and can only shoot it into the air from your second floor balcony.


16 posted on 03/02/2013 8:10:19 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: ConservativeInPA

I am not sure if the communists are just getting bold or this is a last ditch effort.


17 posted on 03/02/2013 8:10:30 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: hunosehu

A single individual is not enough.


19 posted on 03/02/2013 8:13:51 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

This just proves the argument that they are after all weapons.


20 posted on 03/02/2013 8:14:12 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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22 posted on 03/02/2013 8:18:26 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Yo-Yo

bidens brain would fit inside of an empty 12 ga. shell


23 posted on 03/02/2013 8:18:58 AM PST by mt tom
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To: lp boonie

The politician’s who voted for this gun ban could care less if any out of state hunters show up with big money. They would rather pay more welfare to impoverished rural towns. Besides they will be replaced by pot heads vacationing in the summer.


25 posted on 03/02/2013 8:25:33 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: ConservativeInPA
They started in the late 1980s, now Colorado has been completely Californicated. Californicated beyond all repair.
Sure glad I got the hell out in time.
26 posted on 03/02/2013 8:26:29 AM PST by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: Ouderkirk
The time has come to take the state legislators prisoner.

Prisoner legislators would just get public sympathy and it would confirm, for many at least, the media's portrayal of gun rights people as armed fanatics.

That would/should include the communist governors like Andrew Cuomo.

Except the public in NY supports him. Even though his approval rating has dropped, it's still 55-60%. So you'd be attacking governors that have public support.

This is the problem with a soft tyranny. It is especially hard to reverse because they have the legitimacy of the voting public. It's why Castro is so fond of Chavez. Leftists have learned that, rather than just use brute force, it is better to take over the education, media and entertainment establishments of a country and rise to power through brainwashing, propaganda, dependency, identity politics, ect.

And you really should be careful what you post. Some of your comments could draw the wrong kind of attention.

28 posted on 03/02/2013 8:29:30 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: mt tom
bidens brain would fit inside of an empty 12 ga. shell

Yeah, in the primer pocket.

29 posted on 03/02/2013 8:30:50 AM PST by Max in Utah ("This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!")
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To: hunosehu

Just randomly shooting is what communists have done and will do again..

The problem is that we have federal, state, and county legislators who have police protection, and like minded judges who are of the same mindset, so there will not be anyone who is willing to enforce some level of justice for those who have violated their oath of office.

The time has come, for law enforcement and the courts to decide who’s side they are on. There is the side of the communist state, or the side of liberty and the citizens.

We have judges who issue orders not based on the constitution, but their adherence to communism.


30 posted on 03/02/2013 8:32:24 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

This was imminent. We knew that.


31 posted on 03/02/2013 8:33:04 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: driftdiver

A lesson could be taught that is not politically correct...... enough is enough.

Tar and Feathers, riding on a rail, old fashioned horse whipping etc etc....


32 posted on 03/02/2013 8:33:06 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: ConservativeInPA

This was imminent. We knew that.


33 posted on 03/02/2013 8:33:12 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: hunosehu
"So what’s stopping you from starting a ‘let’s kill commies’ movement?"

If you take time to chase down every post you think is assinine you'll be fairly busy.

Good Luck.

34 posted on 03/02/2013 8:36:18 AM PST by gettinolder (Pursue the enemy relentlessly to the limit of every man's endurance.)
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To: Jim Noble

Nice going, there, Jim. You got me interested in Cromwell’s magnificent speech, so I began reading about the history of the Long Parliament and then more about the English Commonwealth and the English Civil War and, next thing I knew, poof! — I’d blown about 45 minutes. FR can be a very dangerous place.


35 posted on 03/02/2013 8:39:03 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: hunosehu

Troll alert.


36 posted on 03/02/2013 8:42:16 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

“From my cold dead hands.”


37 posted on 03/02/2013 8:43:18 AM PST by golux
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To: ConservativeInPA
AimPro is about to leave Colorado like Magpul.

A pump or semi-automatic shotgun is the gun most hunters in Colorado use. It’s a gun state Sen. Greg Brophy, R-Wray, says could be banned under a bill ...

DUmb Dems. They don't even know what a 'plug' is for shotguns either.

38 posted on 03/02/2013 8:55:35 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Longbow1969
And you really should be careful what you post. Some of your comments could draw the wrong kind of attention.

And therein lie part of the problem. We can no longer even say what needs to be said with drawing "the wrong kind of attention". I am not advocating anything other than making those who have been elected to office, follow the oath that they swore to. How does enacting gun restrictions square with "shall not be infringed", a clear violation of that oath. Those who engage in serial theft of the public treasury, to purchase votes, etc. The communists have always said they were for peace until they had the guns, then they would use the muzzle end of said weapons to enforce their will on the unwilling population. At some point we have got to stop playing nice with these people. We can offer them to choice of following the oath of their office....or forcible removal. Including those judges who share the communist mindset who substitute their adherence to communism instead of the constitution. The legislatures can clean up themselves and dispatch those members who are communists and antithetical to liberty, or an armed public can do it for them.

39 posted on 03/02/2013 8:56:33 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

They loves their dope too.. bet hickenlooper has a nice garden of it.


40 posted on 03/02/2013 8:57:13 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: gettinolder
If you take time to chase down every post you think is assinine you'll be fairly busy. Good Luck.

Good one !!!

If you want my posts, come and take them !

41 posted on 03/02/2013 9:08:52 AM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: Jim Noble

We could tell the Taliban that all democrats are really Israeli Mossad agents .... That’s as decent as they deserve.


42 posted on 03/02/2013 9:15:13 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Kozak

Ah yes, I remember it well.

And to think, in 1962 Thomas J Dodd and Emaual Cellar proposed the first federal law on common firearms.

1962; “We don’t want to take away your guns, we ONLY want to register handguns! Rifles and shotguns will not be affected”.

1964: “We only want to register all your guns, not ban them! Only Army surplus guns will be banned.”

1968: “We only want to register your guns, and ban “Saturday Night Specials” and small foreign handguns along with army surplus rifles!” (They got the ban on 5 shot army surplus rifles and handguns and small foreign pistols)

1970: “We only want to ban Saturday night specials! large handguns and rifles will not be affected!” There was also a call at this time to ban all private possession of ALL GUNS.

1976: “We only want to ban all handguns! Long guns will not be affected!”

1980: We only want to control handguns! Long guns will not be affected!-statement by HCI.

1981: “The NRA should give up their handguns, and they can keep their rifles!”- Lee Grant on GMA

1984: “We must ban “assault Rifles, unsuitable or hunting!”

1989: George Bush bans import of foreign made “assault rifles”.

1992: Assault rifle ban passed by Clinton.

2000: first calls to ban single shot .50 cal rifles...


43 posted on 03/02/2013 9:17:30 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: Longbow1969

“Except the public in NY supports him. Even though his approval rating has dropped, it’s still 55-60%. So you’d be attacking governors that have public support.”

For conservatives to believe that they’re going to have an impact on preventing gun-grab legislation from going forward in the blue states — we’ll, they be pipedreamin’…

I’ve posted numerous times since the Sandy Hook massacre that we will see the blue states trample each other in a race to see which one can become the most restrictive on gun control. This is playing out now. The article above reports that one house of the Colorado legislature has passed a very restrictive piece of legislation and the governor has already indicated he will sign it. Will the other half of the CO legislature stop it?

Just within the past two days, a very strict bill has passed one house of the Maryland legislature, the governor has indicated his willingness to sign, and the other half of the state legislature is almost certain to pass, as well.

Those who think the New York state law could be repealed, well … more dreamin’ for you. There is a possibility the state courts _could_ overturn the law, but that’s too much of a gamble to count on as a certainty. Chances are, the NY law will not only stand in the courts, but any efforts to “improve” (or repeal) it will result in MORE restrictions on gun owners, not less.

We are seeing the “American Divide” grow deeper and wider with the gun control struggle. It’s going to get worse, but the argument over the Second Amendment is going to become perhaps the defining moment of that split.

Just as before the first Civil War, the states are segregating themselves into “free states” and “slave states”. In the [red] free states, citizens enjoy state governments that seem (I chose that word carefully) to still respect traditional values and freedoms — even as the DC government continually siezes more power to itself, and chooses to ignore the Constitution.

The blue, “new-slave” states are falling into lockstep with the demands of the DC government. That which the feds won’t take, they will.

And just as in the decade before the first Civil War, it has become obvious that if one resides in one of the “new-slave” states, the only chance for freedom is to get on the “underground railroad out” to one of the red/free states — because so long as you choose to remain in the blue state, you WILL be a “slave” to their demands.

Something else I’ve been thinking about the last few days. One of the “sparks” that set off the first American civil conflict was the Dred Scott decision of 1857. Alone, it was not the cause of the war, but it certainly gave “fuel to the fire”. I doubt that the first war could have been avoided, but after the Dred Scott decision, it became all-but inevitable.

I can’t predict just what the “next Dred Scott” is going to be. But I sense that there is coming, perhaps not-too-far-off, a twenty-first century Court decision that will drive a wedge between the red/free and the blue/new-slave states with an impact similar to the 1857 Scott case. With an impact so powerful everyone will understand that, front this point, there can be no “going back”….

Deo Vindice!


45 posted on 03/02/2013 9:41:31 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: bert

It seems possible they use these kinds of stories to reveal the individuals they consider to be high risk.


46 posted on 03/02/2013 9:41:56 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tupelo

“They started in the late 1980s, now Colorado has been completely Californicated. Californicated beyond all repair.
Sure glad I got the hell out in time. “

Hey Tupe, just looked up Hickenlooper. He was born in Pennsylvania. So I guess in his case at least, Colorado has been Pennsylvanicated! Really, this stupid mantra that all things bad come from California is just laughable. You should start offering solutions rather than crying in your beer. As a native-born Californian, I’m happier than you that you’ve left us. BTW, are you originally from Tupelo, MS? Been to that little $h!thole town a couple of times. If it haddn’t managed to be Elvis’ birthplace no one would know or care that it even existed. Tupelo, home of the outhouse and “Old Coon Dog Cemetery.”


47 posted on 03/02/2013 9:45:09 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Yo-Yo

“...all you need is a double barrel shotgun, two 12 ga shells, and can only shoot it into the air from your second floor balcony.”

And get your idiot ass arrested for discharging a firearm with city limits (wo/ good reason).


48 posted on 03/02/2013 9:46:48 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: lp boonie

“out of staters basically fund the state wildlife agency.”

I had to deal with the Colorado Dept. of Wildlife (DOW) when a cougar was killed by a man doing forest reclamation work. The animal whacko nuts wanted him jailed and claimed a cougar could only be shot for killing livestock, not for killing a pet.

A Wendy Kefauver-Ring (name is probably spelled correctly) was so outspoken in her demand for DOW jailing the owner of the dog that I asked for a copy of the necropsy on the cougar.

The sweetie at DOW told me it would be months before it was available. I then reminded her that my request was covered by the Colorado Open Records Act (CORA) and her response was a criminal violation, misdemeanor level.

Then, and only then, did she tell me it would be available in the morning. As the Trough Feeder handed it to me she said, “You do realize this is political dynamite.”

The DOW Trough Feeders were working with the animal whacko crowd to let the poor victim of the cougar attack be lynched in the media so that the animal whacko groups could fund raise.

The whole thing backfired. The Sinapu group went under and the DOW Trough Feeders had to admit the shooting was legal.

Seems when the Cat Ladies heard DOW took the position that they could not shoot a cougar trying to kill poor lil’ Fluffums they sent so many emails attacking Sinapu that the server on the Sinapu account crashed. So did Sinapu’s fund raising ability and they closed down for good.

DOW took one look at the firestorm of criticism they had helped stoke and ran for cover clucking like chickens.

Oh, I almost forgot. Seems that the dog owners response was similar to the Cat Ladies. Big difference is that hound owners are armed and in a position to do on-site, real time, cougar attitude adjustment therapy.

Unfortunately, boycotting Colorado hunts will only hurt conservatives. The problem in Colorado is laired up in Boulder, home of Boulder Dementia Syndrome(BDS).

Colorado has allowed too many Liberals and social parasites to move in and vote.

Let the once Westerner Coloradans suffer and be disarmed by the Denver/Boulder axis of collectivism - they worked long and hard to reach the level of socialist degradation they are about to inflict on themselves.

Besides, their socialism is about to drive good industries to conservative states.

;-)


49 posted on 03/02/2013 9:47:19 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Colorado has a population of 5,187,582 but only 2,571,778 voted in the 2012 election.

It's hard to believe that there won't be major reactions to this in the Colorado state elections in 2014 and 2016.

50 posted on 03/02/2013 9:49:12 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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