Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama trading Keystone XL for a carbon tax?
Hotair ^ | 03/02/2013 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/02/2013 10:25:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind

There must be some fans of The Walking Dead at the White House and the DNC these days, because there are apparently some bad ideas which never die, no matter how many stakes you drive through them. One of these is the carbon tax, not so subtly invoked during the State of the Union address, and now making a comeback with some of the usual list of suspects in Congress. But this time it may be coming with a twist. You want your Keystone XL pipeline and all of the jobs, opportunity and energy advantages it offers? Well show us the money.

Having failed to lower the sea levels in his first term, President Obama, in the first SOTU of his second term, highlighted the need for fighting climate change and proposed an Energy Security Trust Fund to siphon off money from those who actually produce abundant and useable energy to fund alternative energy sources which constitute a rounding error in the percent of energy produced by various sources.

Two days later, Senators Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., dutifully introduced carbon tax legislation to put the nail in the coffin of those fossil fuels President Obama blamed for causing Superstorm Sandy, droughts and floods, stopping just short of a plague of locusts.

The bill would impose a $20-per-ton fee on so-called carbon polluters allegedly driving climate change.

The timing certainly is curious – assuming you slept through the last decade that is – but the national appetite for a carbon tax doesn’t seem to be there, thankfully. With the price of natural gas remaining low and availability high, combined with discoveries of increasing domestic oil deposits, people in a struggling economy can see the benefits waiting in the wings. Businesses who provide most of the jobs in the country are paying attention as well.

Manufacturing is a key driver of the Dayton-area economy and industry insiders say a carbon tax would hurt a fragile recovery.

“I just think that it’s national suicide,” said Greg Knox, CEO of Franklin-based Knox Machinery. “In talking to my customers, we’re just appalled by the fact the government would choose to consider some of this legislation in light of how many problems we have now in our economy.”

The GOP has managed to get kicked around in the polls pretty badly lately on issues from gun control to the sequester. It might be time to shift the conversation a bit and get back the high ground by focusing on something where there’s a clear majority in favor of their positions. The pipeline and opposition to any form of national carbon tax could be a couple of good places to start.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbontax; keystonexl; pipeline

1 posted on 03/02/2013 10:25:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Just tax people for breathing, Barry.

You know that's what you really want to do.

2 posted on 03/02/2013 10:27:17 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

If true, we’d be better off without the pipeline.


3 posted on 03/02/2013 10:27:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
There will be a sell-out, with this One-Party Government we have, whereby Taxes (ALWAYS borne by Consumers, under whatever Guise they make up to justify it). Payoffs to cronies who fund the Election Campaigns, Lobby for business-interests/Special Interest handouts, etc.).

That's what "Global Warming" and "Climate Change" are: a means to grow business on the backs of Middle Class/Productive people, which is then re-distributed to these groups (and the parasitic inner-city and Illegal Alien masses).

4 posted on 03/02/2013 10:29:13 AM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

If CO2 is SO BAD and destroying the Planet, should it be a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY for an Elected Official to TELL A LIE?, after all it is an unnecessary release of a DEADLY GAS that is going to KILL THE PLANET right??


5 posted on 03/02/2013 10:31:01 AM PST by eyeamok
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
If true, we’d be better off without the pipeline.

I agree, that's too high a price to pay for it. Let the Obunga voters pay $8 for gas for a couple of years.

6 posted on 03/02/2013 10:31:01 AM PST by varmintman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The oil is going to be moved and refined by either us or China, carbon tax be damned.


7 posted on 03/02/2013 10:36:11 AM PST by AU72
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
 photo democrats_zpsafc6f927.jpg
8 posted on 03/02/2013 10:36:54 AM PST by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

since when is extortion legal?


9 posted on 03/02/2013 10:44:59 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: varmintman

If we accept the carbon tax gas will be at least $8 per gallon AND we lose what’s left of our freedom.


10 posted on 03/02/2013 10:48:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
 photo Obama.png
11 posted on 03/02/2013 11:11:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: eyeamok
Step One:

Immediate grounding of all obama Vacation and Campaign Flights.

And don't tell me, "But I'm the President of the United States!"

Never did want to hear it and don't want to hear it now.

12 posted on 03/02/2013 11:40:24 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Right Wing Assault
Step Two:

Close down the printing presses at the mint, allow no paper, ink or power to turn on any lights. This will gum up the dear leaders plan.

13 posted on 03/02/2013 11:49:28 AM PST by tiger63
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

In just 4 years he added 6 trillion to the debt, with out a carbon tax. What does he have to show for it? How much money does he plan on spending?


14 posted on 03/02/2013 12:21:27 PM PST by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Liberals NEVER let go of their pet plans. NEVER.


15 posted on 03/02/2013 1:09:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

‘zackly.
Let the Canuks build it to the West Coast and fill Asia’s oil needs. A world market will mean lower prices for everyone.

NO BTU Tax, Barry !


16 posted on 03/02/2013 2:29:48 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
If true, we’d be better off without the pipeline.

Yes. Say it again.

If true, we’d be better off without the pipeline.

The lack of a pipeline can be overcome -- inefficently, to be sure -- but doable.

A carbon tax will just further hollow out the American manufacturing sector.

17 posted on 03/02/2013 4:07:05 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

ALL of the politicians in DC know that man does not control the climate. Any politician who keeps talking about man controlling the climate should be removed from Congress. They are steadily lying and should be removed.


18 posted on 03/02/2013 4:27:56 PM PST by abclily
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BfloGuy
Ben Franklin told the British that the colonists would rather sacrifice than comply 10 years before the revolution.

Q. What used to be the pride of the Americans ?

A. To indulge in the fashions and manufactures of G. Britain.

Q. What is now their pride ?

A. To wear their old cloaths over again, till they can make new ones.


The Examination of Doctor Franklin, before an August Assembly, relating to the Repeal of the Stamp-Act, &c.
19 posted on 03/02/2013 4:35:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Obama trading Keystone XL for a carbon tax?

Dah-yum! Such a deal!

That loser is either insane, or believes we are.
"Carbon Tax..." = a tax on a fictitious commodity the largest source of which is living things breathing.

How about calling it a "Just because we can" Tax, which will expire in 2025?

20 posted on 03/02/2013 11:05:23 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson