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Obama, the US and the Muslim world: the animosity deepens - (Obama is an utter failure)
The Guardian ^ | 2/15/13 | Greenwald

Posted on 03/02/2013 11:17:28 AM PST by machman

In his first inaugural address, Barack Obama announced: "To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect." Improving how the US was perceived among the world's 1.6B Muslims was not about winning an international popularity contest but was deemed as vital to US national security. Even the Pentagon has long recognized that the primary cause of anti-American Terrorism is the "negative attitude" toward the US: obviously, the reason people in that part of the world want to attack the US - as opposed to Peru, South Africa, China - is because they perceive a reason to do so. Obama's most devoted supporters have long hailed his supposedly unique ability to improve America's standing in that part of the world. In his first of what would be many paeans to Obama, Andrew Sullivan wrote back in 2007 that among Obama's countless assets, "first and foremost [is] his face", which would provide "the most effective potential re-branding of the United States since Reagan". Sullivan specifically imagined a "young Pakistani Muslim" seeing Obama as "the new face of America"; instantly, proclaimed Sullivan, "America's soft power has been ratcheted up not a notch, but a logarithm". Obama would be "the crudest but most effective weapon against the demonization of America that fuels Islamist ideology" because it "proves them wrong about what America is in ways no words can". Sullivan made clear why this matters so much: "such a re-branding is not trivial - it's central to an effective war strategy." None of that has happened. In fact, the opposite has taken place: although it seemed impossible to achieve, Obama has presided over an America that, in many respects, is now even more unpopular in the Muslim world than it was under George Bush and Dick Cheney.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: muslim; obama; wot
So much for "oh how they will love us"....
1 posted on 03/02/2013 11:17:39 AM PST by machman
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To: machman
1.6 Billion!

I need to re-think my Basic Load.....

2 posted on 03/02/2013 11:21:22 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: machman
Obama, the US and the Muslim world: the animosity deepens - (Obama is an utter failure)

In the mind of The Won, this makes him a success.

He views the Muslim world as an ally in his overall goal of the destruction of this country, and with it, ultimately, all of Western Civilization.

3 posted on 03/02/2013 11:24:32 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: machman

Obama IS a weapon against America, the traitorous, anti-America, communist bastard.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 11:27:59 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: machman
It's no surprise that muzzies respect force; they may not like it, but they respect it. While W used drone strikes as a balanced element of prosecuting the WOT, for Obama, drone strikes have become the WOT.

Curiously, I suspect that through muzzie eyes, Predator strikes, nameless, faceless, and anonymous are probably viewed with the same degree of cowardice and contempt that we view random suicide bombings against soft targets.

I'm not saying I agree with that conclusion, but that I can certainly understand how many in the muslim world, heavily propagandized by Al-Jazeera, would arrive at it.

5 posted on 03/02/2013 11:28:09 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Like your Latin tagline, “Love me, love my dog”. Heard it for many years, it’s a hunter’s saying.

Nowadays it has a neat “infidel” ring to it, IMO.

;^)


6 posted on 03/02/2013 11:51:18 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: machman

If we are seen as weak, failing, ignorant and lying cowards.... they would be right.


7 posted on 03/02/2013 11:51:18 AM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Curiously, I suspect that through muzzie eyes, Predator strikes, nameless, faceless, and anonymous are probably viewed with the same degree of cowardice and contempt that we view random suicide bombings against soft targets.

"Raisuli: I prefer to fight the European armies, but they do not fight as men - they fight as dogs! Men prefer to fight with swords, so they can see each other's eyes! Sometimes, this is not possible. Then, they fight with rifles. The Europeans have guns that fire many times promiscuously and rend the Earth. There is no honor in this - nothing is decided from this. Therefore, I take women and children when it pleases me! "

" Sean Connery - The Wind And The Lion (Original Trailer) "

(Note: this quote is not in the movie trailer)

8 posted on 03/02/2013 11:52:00 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Feckless
1.6 Billion! I need to re-think my Basic Load.....

It's a good thing that Muslims also hate each other.

9 posted on 03/02/2013 12:00:12 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: machman

Bush was up front about his “tough love” approach to Muslin tyrants and terrorist coddlers (you are with us or against us). I think most Muslims respected that.

In contrast, Obama was so kissy-kissy to Muslims from day one in Cairo that he created expectations that he would drop Bush’s pro-reform pressure and strong-arm Israel into surrendering even more strategic land and pull in Americas horns in the WOT.

Borrowing one of Obama’s favorite framing tactics, I support “smart” use of drones to kill US enemies consistent with the rules of war. But Barry has gone promiscuous with the drone killings in a way (based on vague “signatures”) that actually is creating more terrorists than are killed. Tribal Muslims have long memories and their honor demands blood revenge unless they are properly compensated, of course.


10 posted on 03/02/2013 12:20:17 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: machman

Negative attitude because we’re not Islamic. Some people literally can’t sleep at night unless they think everyone loves them. Others (me included) recognize the fact that the world is an imperfect place. Sometimes people will hate you and there is just nothing much you can do about it. As long as they have no real power to hurt you, that is what counts—especially so if you can turn them into a fine paste if they get too cute.


11 posted on 03/02/2013 12:34:41 PM PST by rbg81
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To: machman

“.....among Obama’s countless assets, “first and foremost [is] his face”,”....

The face that launched a million blimps (i.e. full of hot air).


12 posted on 03/02/2013 12:46:03 PM PST by fivecatsandadog (Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)
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To: machman

I hate to tell Barry that I don’t seek a new way forward with them except maybe deporting them all to the chithole country they originated from.


13 posted on 03/02/2013 12:47:03 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: elcid1970
"Like your Latin tagline, “Love me, love my dog”...Nowadays it has a neat “infidel” ring to it, IMO."

It ought to. It's a quote from St. Bernard of Clairvaux who wrote the Rule for the Knights Templar.

Your screen name has a nice infidel ring to it as well ;-)

14 posted on 03/02/2013 12:52:18 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: machman

They hate us cuz we’re Christians and Jews. Even if our fearless leader bows down and kisses bearded savage a$$, they will still hate us.


15 posted on 03/02/2013 1:05:27 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: machman

Parodoxically, the Muslim-loving Obama condescend to Muslims, failing to understand their world-view except in the most superficial way. He forgets, for instance, that before the British ruled India, it was ruled by a Muslim autocrat with scant respect for the Christians and the Hindu majority who were subject to him. The Moghul Empire WAS an empire, one which like the Rome of the Caesars, respected the Indian dynasties so long as they paid tribute. They were not victims, none of them, and the British Raj is not to be faulted if it was able to gain mastery over them, through trade, war and and diplomacy. Furthermore the British left behind a legacy far greater than that of the Shahs and the Majarajahs. The main elements of western civilizations and a largely unified state that is becoming one of the great states of the world. The Muslim legacy, which dominates in Pakistan and Bangladish, is something else entirely.


16 posted on 03/02/2013 1:11:13 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: I want the USA back
They hate us cuz we’re Christians and Jews. Even if our fearless leader bows down and kisses bearded savage a$$, they will still hate us.

That is really all it boils down too...

17 posted on 03/02/2013 1:43:13 PM PST by machman
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To: machman

they will still hate us.

Worse than that, they dispise us for our seeming weakness.
This leads them to make terrible misjudgements.


18 posted on 03/02/2013 1:57:36 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: machman

So much for “oh how they will love us”....

We’re obviously not giving them enough money. /s


19 posted on 03/02/2013 2:27:16 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: I want the USA back
They hate us cuz we’re Christians and Jews. Even if our fearless leader bows down and kisses bearded savage a$$, they will still hate us.

Technically, they hate us because we are not muslim and we don't bow down in their mosque. They won't kill you as long as you do that and hand over everything they tell you to....then they'll still hate you because Islam is a religion of control and authority. There is no such thing as independence within Islam. Islam IS A STATE disquised as a religion.

The west will do well to remember that the Christian church is the cornerstone of Western Civilization. The philosophy and thought process is completely different.

20 posted on 03/02/2013 3:38:24 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: I want the USA back
They hate us cuz we’re Christians and Jews. Even if our fearless leader bows down and kisses bearded savage a$$, they will still hate us.

Technically, they hate us because we are not muslim and we don't bow down in their mosque. They won't kill you as long as you do that and hand over everything they tell you to....then they'll still hate you because Islam is a religion of control and authority. There is no such thing as independence within Islam. Islam IS A STATE disquised as a religion.

The west will do well to remember that the Christian church is the cornerstone of Western Civilization. The philosophy and thought process is completely different.

21 posted on 03/02/2013 3:38:24 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: machman

Bump


22 posted on 03/02/2013 3:53:36 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: machman

The Saudi royality love him and that is all that matter$$$.


23 posted on 03/02/2013 4:16:09 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: machman

Just how bad can he get?

For more on Obama see The Obama Clarifier http://obamaclarifier.blogspot.com/


24 posted on 03/13/2013 9:21:41 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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